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27 Apr 2007, 5:51 pm

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Where is the island?


Off the coast of upstate NY. Nowhere real. Just a made up island.[/quote]

Like Plum Island, huh? This is good because on most tropical islands, you can't dig more than 6 feet before you hit salt water. :)


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27 Apr 2007, 5:54 pm

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Unfortunately, they can't even figure out what life is like in the now. It is seriously disturbing to me that their interventions have seemed to create a generation that can't function at all. I thought the idea was to make it better for them? Maybe I'm getting a skewed view, but I am very bothered by it.


Me too....I can't figure it out. I have to wonder about all the forced socialization. The bullying seems so excessive!


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27 Apr 2007, 5:59 pm

Zanne, LAUGHING to meself ! ! I didn't even catch the Freudian "tunnels = female" thing ! !
Antways, I thought Slyvie would taunt the sociopath and then try and kill him?? Am I wrong?? She'd just come up behind him and garrote??
I was thinking she'd be all female and sweet, and say"Like my necklace?" stuff, then whip it around his bloody throat and strangle him ! !!

Ah yes Poe. I wanted to write one of those one man shows for a man to portray him. But he's so complex, and people's stories about him are so conflicting (! !) Who was the real Poe ???


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27 Apr 2007, 6:00 pm

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That's just me, so never mind, I'll go sprawl on the floor and wait for merle to come give me a lesson in manners. Little worried she did say she had that damn 2x4 in her hands though.


A spanking perhaps? :lol:

This is the only place you can post weird theories about dead relatives with AS. Most of the other posters are still living with mom and dad. I wonder if they even think about what life was like in the 18th century?

An aspie historical fiction novel - that's an idea!


Hey, I can't be the order giver, it was made plain, duh!!, when I was "toping from the bottom". Lol, I'm not good at this end, but I'm trying. I just roar everytime I put a post up in this line of stuff and have to punch the "submit" button to post it.

Have a hard time with some people who look at my interest in the past and accuse me of living in it. It couldn't be further from the truth if they tried.


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There is something very valuable that comes from the school of hard knocks and I don't think anybody does anyone any favors by masking it over. Sure it can't be avoided and sure it's nice to get a little boost froma friend, but to wallow in it? Not good and sometimes you have to call a spade a spade and all too often when you do, it doesn't go down very well. I'll stay here for the most part. I mean there is an adult label on this, never met a kid yet that didn't open that door.


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27 Apr 2007, 6:03 pm

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Ah yes Poe. I wanted to write one of those one man shows for a man to portray him. But he's so complex, and people's stories about him are so conflicting (! !) Who was the real Poe ???


Love em, have his complete works. I think his "The Prolioned Letter" (murdered the spelling) should be required study, not reading but study.


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27 Apr 2007, 6:07 pm

PURLOINED, old chap. And yes, I totally agree ! ! Poe was a bloody genius, and I only wish I get better biographical details about him. I mean, some people knew of him, but the real man is elusive.
Another reason for a time machine!! Imagine thirty minutes with Edgar Allen ! !!
Was he ASpie, you think??


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27 Apr 2007, 6:10 pm

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Where is the island?


Off the coast of upstate NY. Nowhere real. Just a made up island.


Like Plum Island, huh? This is good because on most tropical islands, you can't dig more than 6 feet before you hit salt water. :)[/quote]

It's about the same in FL. When we put in the pool in Orlando, they hit water at six feet.


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27 Apr 2007, 6:12 pm

Yup, tunnels on islands can be problematic, but it is a novel!

Nelson DeMille wrote a novel called "Plum Island" set off of Long Island. Pretty good read.


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27 Apr 2007, 6:12 pm

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Unfortunately, they can't even figure out what life is like in the now. It is seriously disturbing to me that their interventions have seemed to create a generation that can't function at all. I thought the idea was to make it better for them? Maybe I'm getting a skewed view, but I am very bothered by it.


Me too....I can't figure it out. I have to wonder about all the forced socialization. The bullying seems so excessive!


I don't agree with the forced socialization and all of this telling them not to do what comes naturally to do them like spend time on their interests. The bullying I think is a result of them being told over and over they must try and being told they will be victims. It puts it in their minds and they project it. Fuzzy's been trying to work with me to not project prey so much. I think only an Aspie can explain that to an Aspie. I've noticed a big difference since talking to him about it. He used to be a bouncer and his instructions are clear and precise. I can follow them.


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27 Apr 2007, 6:15 pm

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Zanne, LAUGHING to meself ! ! I didn't even catch the Freudian "tunnels = female" thing ! !
Antways, I thought Slyvie would taunt the sociopath and then try and kill him?? Am I wrong?? She'd just come up behind him and garrote??
I was thinking she'd be all female and sweet, and say"Like my necklace?" stuff, then whip it around his bloody throat and strangle him ! !!

Ah yes Poe. I wanted to write one of those one man shows for a man to portray him. But he's so complex, and people's stories about him are so conflicting (! !) Who was the real Poe ???


Is that what it is? Some female thing? Oh for god's sake. I would never get that.

She will let him think he has the power until she has him where she wants him. Sylvie is very adept with men. She knows how to handle him. She would never talk like that. Sylvie is more of a lay down and watch this type of girl.

No one knows the real Poe. He was always being told how to act.


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27 Apr 2007, 6:16 pm

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PURLOINED, old chap. And yes, I totally agree ! ! Poe was a bloody genius, and I only wish I get better biographical details about him. I mean, some people knew of him, but the real man is elusive.
Another reason for a time machine!! Imagine thirty minutes with Edgar Allen ! !!
Was he ASpie, you think??


Never thought about it, other then his love (need) for the drug thing. Why did he do the drugs? I mean I used to self medicate and when I went to find the roots of the why, here I am. When I was doing O, I thought alot about him. It didn't get me any closer of course, but just feeling the drugs gave me a , probably false, feel for what he might have been going through to come out with such things. There is one he wrote about a sphinx moth (sp), it looked to him as a monster on a hill, when in fact it was a moth on the screen. Again the simple , right in plain sight, it's in the perception. Would I be off mark by comparing him to a cubist before his time?


Very true about his writing. He did what he did so he could live. I'm not sure what he wrote that he did just because he wanted to with out the money or the editors.


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27 Apr 2007, 6:17 pm

Oh, I don't know about that ! ! I was bullied terrible as a lad. But I was the smallest my age, in my class. The bigger lads would threaten to thrash me most every day. I don't think I projected it... I just got in trouble for being 'smart-mouthed.'


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27 Apr 2007, 6:20 pm

I still would like to see a whole forum for older folks. I don't know how well it would handles the daily glut of postings about such a variety of topics. People would have to remember to separate their discussions.

I would love to see separate threads for the cool old photos and family/history. I think that would be great. And for discussion on Zanne's story. There was some success having a "Daily Chat" thread with the date. So that folks would do their chat by day, and whomever was around at their own midnight started the new chat thread.

That keeps it smaller in size, and you can read up on just today's chat, or read the past two weeks worth of chat.

I don't like cliques. I just wander in wherever I want and start talking. This might annoy NTs (for sure) and anyone in a particular clique. But I figure that these are all public forums, and if the public isn't welcome, they ought not be public. Hah!

Make an exclusionary private area somewhere where no one else will mistakenly wander in.

I hate wandering in to a public forum and being attacked or ignored. What's the point? Everyone was new once. Folks here on this site or any site, they didn't rally together all their friends in real life to talk online inside of in person. Well, they might, like for clubs or organizations.

But here, did anyone know anyone else before coming to this site? Or did you all meet each other here?



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27 Apr 2007, 6:23 pm

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Why did he do the drugs?


'Cause he had to read Mellville and Hawthorne!


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27 Apr 2007, 6:23 pm

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PURLOINED, old chap. And yes, I totally agree ! ! Poe was a bloody genius, and I only wish I get better biographical details about him. I mean, some people knew of him, but the real man is elusive.
Another reason for a time machine!! Imagine thirty minutes with Edgar Allen ! !!
Was he ASpie, you think??


It's possible. Poe had big problems. He was close to his step father but when he lost his approval he lost him. I don't think he ever recovered from that. People had a tendency to look after Poe, but when they did, they told him how to act which is why you get conflicting pictures of him. He went to stay with his future mother-in-law and married his teenage cousin. No one is even sure if the marriage was consumated, but he loved her. She was very sickly and her mother pretty much ran both their lives. She continued to run Poe's life after her daughter's death (I think of consumption). Her mother wanted Poe to be famous for her own reasons. I think all the people pushing Poe were the ruin of him. He just wanted to write for his own pleasure.

Dickinson fared better because her family kept her cloistered. She had friends through her family, but she lived a very sheltered life. That was possible for women then because a male relative would take care of them. Dickinson also went to college and left to go live with her family. She basically stayed right there for the rest of her life and had people in. She was phobic about publication and never wanted her work published after she had something published and they changed it. One of her relatives published her work after her death and the publishers did change it to make it marketable. I'm not even sure you can see actual Dickinson work. That's actually the case with most writers. The original work is lost over time and only the edited version remains. All the "this is what the author really meant to say" versions. That crap is too much like NTs trying to tell me what to think. I'll pass.

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27 Apr 2007, 6:34 pm

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Why did he do the drugs?


'Cause he had to read Mellville and Hawthorne!


omfg!! ! you just cursed my beloved Mellville. swear away at Hawthorne.

You owe me for a pepsie spew cleaning of my monitor and keyboard. Or would you like the spanking? 8O


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