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30 Apr 2007, 3:28 am

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Oh Lord. Stay out of the General Discussion thread. There's a whiner in there who believes we all must be diagnosed at once as miserable and horrible Aspies who must be cured because those of us who are self diagnosed must not be real Aspies since we found a way to actually LIKE ourselves.


Well, you won't believe what happened to me. I am obviously a SAP. DH got extremely angry with me, took his Sony notebook and left. He wrote me a long note and part of it said:

"You are on the autism/Aspergers thing now. All the books, and the website you have been spending time on. I've been there and read some of the posts. I find it very disturbing -- do you really think that way? I find the rationalizations and the bandmouthing of "NTs" to be loony denial. There is no such thing as neurotypical as a population grouping. The world is what it is, and people are what they are. I don't think Aspies are a viable alternative at all. It is a serious neurological deficit that can prevent people from understanding themselves and they world they live in."

Here I sit with my 2 little aspies in total confusion and despair. I have no idea what he means. :cry:


I'm on, I'm here, I'll stay on.

Just from the surface of it, I'd say he had a meltdown. Something else is happening, would be my guess. You guys had privacy issues before? I mean when you get obsessed with something does he get all jealous? No need to reply here or even to me in PM. But talk to someone, please.

I can understand every sentence he wrote and could make the same arguement except one sentence. I could even take his side of the arguement and win a debate. But this one I don't understand, there maybe some tie in else where in the over all, but don't see it in the parapragh, this is it "I don't think Aspies are a viable alternative at all."

Switching on my yahoo messenger, in case.

f*****g s**t saw the time stamp on your post, god if you're on talk to me or let us know you're ok or even not ok.


ok to anyone that just popped in and saw this post, this is an update. She's on and busy.


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30 Apr 2007, 4:13 am

Serious Girl, I think that PP is right and your husband lost his temper up because he's already fired up about other things. I read in another thread that your main problem was communication. I think this is instance. Hope you don't mind me butting in.

PP you are very kind. And I loved your photos - especially the one of you!! !! !! ! The nature ones are great - moon, butterfly I am trying to take those too, but think I need a better camera. Do you use photoshop?

True, you are among true friends here. The folk on this thread don't have digs at each other, do not undermine , and call a spade a spade. I think it is the aspie way.

I suspect I'm intruding on private aspie stuff. and you may use the ?2 by 4 on me but dooooooooon't boot me out.


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30 Apr 2007, 5:39 am

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Is that a Whippet or a Greyhound, Lupine?


That would be an 8-year old pound-rescued pitbull. (It would be obvious if I showed the rest of her face.) This is the bug-eyed "Oh look at how tough my life is I'm being forced to sit still for a photo" look.

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You know, I just realized that when I worked with all those ferals, I could tell them all apart by their faces, but I have the worst time with people. Why is that?


I don't know. If you figure that one out, please clue me in. I have the same problem. Often find myself trying to sustain a conversation with someone I know I'm supposed to recognize... but don't... until finally some random cue kicks in and I figure out who I'm talking to.


Pitbull? Well I failed miserably! Poor little thing with her ears back like that. The pound is a horrible place. Good for you for rescuing her.

I talk to people I should know all the time. The worst is when I've worked with them for a year, had lunch several times, seen them the hour before and think someone else is them. THAT has happened more than once. Very embarassing.


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30 Apr 2007, 5:43 am

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Zanne?

Do you want me to leave this site? You said:
"You will find your place, keep looking."

I don't understand. Did I do something wrong?

By the way, I was pronouncing your name with two syllables, as in "Zah nay" to rhyme with my name Andree (Awn dray).


No, you misunderstood. I was saying you would find your place to help people as you'd like. Remember? You asked about other forums so you could find ways to stay busy and help?

LOL on pronunciation. If that's the worst thing you do in life, you are in good shape. Just say it was the Southern way of pronouncing it. If you break down Su - Zanne into two syllables as so, that's how you pronounce it. No biggie. I would realize Zahnay was me too. LOL


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30 Apr 2007, 5:48 am

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Oh Lord. Stay out of the General Discussion thread. There's a whiner in there who believes we all must be diagnosed at once as miserable and horrible Aspies who must be cured because those of us who are self diagnosed must not be real Aspies since we found a way to actually LIKE ourselves.


Well, you won't believe what happened to me. I am obviously a SAP. DH got extremely angry with me, took his Sony notebook and left. He wrote me a long note and part of it said:

"You are on the autism/Aspergers thing now. All the books, and the website you have been spending time on. I've been there and read some of the posts. I find it very disturbing -- do you really think that way? I find the rationalizations and the bandmouthing of "NTs" to be loony denial. There is no such thing as neurotypical as a population grouping. The world is what it is, and people are what they are. I don't think Aspies are a viable alternative at all. It is a serious neurological deficit that can prevent people from understanding themselves and they world they live in."

Here I sit with my 2 little aspies in total confusion and despair. I have no idea what he means. :cry:



I think he wants to talk. And he probably found NT bashing offensive. I even find it offensive since I live with one. No telling. You'd have to sit him down and see what forums he was in and what he read. I mean think about some of the stuff we see on here. He's probably got PTSD after that. It even shocks and disturbs us. He's logical. It had to be disturbing.


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30 Apr 2007, 5:54 am

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True, KFA91 is probably a teenager. He made a remark about his obsessive interests interfering with his homework. :roll:



I saw that. We also get those people through here all the time. I don't read too much into them. They come and go on a regular basis True and have been since before you came to the site. So let's hope based on that fact that it is not him. Just tell yourself the empirical evidence says otherwise so don't panic yet.


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30 Apr 2007, 6:05 am

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It won't matter. The only way to get rid of that guy is to get rid of me. I still check the old place, and he's not shown up there since i left.

One of the people from here who is also on the place I left believed him as an Aspie and invited him here. I've had this place bookmarked since last year. But this guy would have just learned of it through the other person. And I do know he checked here, as he made a reference to one of the threads on the front page.

My fault. I don't change my name from place to place. It's variations of the same things. I'm not good at making things up. If I'd just chosen a different name.

This... THIS is a panic attack. And I'm out of anxiety medication.

It might not even be him. It's just the fear is so overwhelming. The morons on the other sites were always a day late and a dollar short on their remedies. They wouldn't listen to me. I gave them all his names, and they did nothing.

This is like the sound of helicopters to another member. Duck and cover and be fearful. That's what any person online does to me now that is remotely similar to the guy that bothered me.

Anyone know of legal remedies? The guy is supposedly an attorney. If it is the guy again, it's gotta stop. I don't want to fear everyone. I just want a nice, peaceful place.


True,

Just breathe. You are having a panic attack and I do think that was a kid, but I'm not good at picking up on things either. Look at the things I miss in here that are said.

Here's what I think and take it for what it's worth (not a whole lot, but I hope it helps). I think you need to talk to someone (like a counselor or Phsychologist about how this has made you feel and how you can control those panicked and helpless feelings. It isn't good to be in victim mode, I know because I have it in other ways in real life. I don't know what to tell you to deal with this guy or even to help you control how you are feeling so you can relax and enjoy yourself. I don't put much stock in Pyschiatrists, Psychologists and the like for many things, but I do believe they can help with how you are feeling and maybe they'll have some suggestions about how you can better recognize things and defend yourself online.

You may have already done these things, in which case I don't know what else to offer unfortunately. Sorry you are feeling so scared. I do understand the paranoia a little. I do it in real life over certain things. I've tried to learn what signals I send off so at least I can control my end of it. It's helped me. That's all I know or can say. But maybe talking to someone who really knows can help you. Wish I was more help.


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30 Apr 2007, 6:09 am

Lol, I forgot to eat today, or was it yesterday? Does anybody really know what time it is?


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30 Apr 2007, 6:16 am

ZanneMarie wrote:
I think he wants to talk. And he probably found NT bashing offensive. I even find it offensive since I live with one. No telling. You'd have to sit him down and see what forums he was in and what he read. I mean think about some of the stuff we see on here. He's probably got PTSD after that. It even shocks and disturbs us. He's logical. It had to be disturbing.


He never talks. I out talk him 2 to 1. And he's not being very logical either. He's not well and he's depressed. Our daughter is having problems and other disappointments have caused him to become angry with AS.

Yes, he find everything offensive lately, including Temple Grandin. He also has aspie traits.

Postie, sorry to keep you from breakfast. Thanks so much and thank your special someone too!


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30 Apr 2007, 6:19 am

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I think he wants to talk. And he probably found NT bashing offensive. I even find it offensive since I live with one. No telling. You'd have to sit him down and see what forums he was in and what he read. I mean think about some of the stuff we see on here. He's probably got PTSD after that. It even shocks and disturbs us. He's logical. It had to be disturbing.


He never talks. I out talk him 2 to 1. And he's not being very logical either. He's not well and he's depressed. Our daughter is having problems and other disappointments have caused him to become angry with AS.

Yes, he find everything offensive lately, including Temple Grandin. He also has aspie traits.

Postie, sorry to keep you from breakfast. Thanks so much and thank your special someone too!


breakfast? I was talikng about breakfast lunch and dinner from yesterday. I get so confused with time. Well I just ate a roll, I'm good for another 24 hours, or till I drop on the keyboard...ohh shiney thing over here, brb :wink:

She's not special she's just "The Wife". She also doesn't have an account here and will never know I said that or I'd be spam in a can :roll:


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30 Apr 2007, 6:32 am

cool bike-pic zannemarie,
now we are visually reveiling our true nature... :lol: i have posted some recent pics :
http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... 268#622268



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30 Apr 2007, 7:04 am

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PP you are very kind. And I loved your photos - especially the one of you!! !! !! ! The nature ones are great - moon, butterfly I am trying to take those too, but think I need a better camera. Do you use photoshop?


The Wife (swampblossom) took those. Yeah we have photshop. She has an artists eye, can even draw and paint and all that stuff I cannot do or even close. I hope I've finally convinced her to keep a camara in her hands at all times. I like to think I have an eye for a good picture and I think some of her work is exceptional and can only get better. She just needs to keep the shutter rolling, it's not like the expensive ol days of film, although I like my old manuel better. I haven't picked it up since i got out of the field. My old man was a near pro, one of his obsesssions, it got to the point where he had to decide between his day job or do photography full time. he choose his day job, just got out of the money end of photos and kept it a little more under control, he could do that sometimes. Birds and photos never left him. The other things and there were many, were cool while they were around. I ever tell you about the time the gas cloud came in from the kitchen? Back then you could get seriously dangerous chems to play with, I think it had to do with getting a specfic gravity on something, or maybe it was the crystal growing or maybe it was the ...oh you get the idea. Miss the ol guy, funny, when it happens, it's like i run into a math problem and I think, why am I beating myself up over this, I'll just call dad. Well I do, he's never really left, it's all good, it really is. You guys would have liked him, cept he was pretty quiet and I doubt he would get into much small talk. But I don't mind small talk and like I said he hasn't really gone, I'm still here. I still can't do the hard math problems, but hey, I know where to come now.

Close ups aren't easy, fun bouncing light and stuff. Wife hasn't learned about that, have to go slow with her or she freaks on me. Just keep taking pictures, the more the better, don't worry about the camara. A camara is only as good as the one pulling the trigger, it has no brains. And remember to have fun, keep it fun and you're golden.


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30 Apr 2007, 7:12 am

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cool bike-pic zannemarie,
now we are visually reveiling our true nature... :lol: i have posted some recent pics :
http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... 268#622268


Cripes, good lookin and talented, I can't hardly stand it. I need to see ID now, I don't think you belong in this section young lady. Ah never mind I never could tell age anyways.


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30 Apr 2007, 7:34 am

Lemon,

Your English is very good, better then a lot of people near where I live. Is slang a problem for you to catch here? Sometimes it is for me.


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30 Apr 2007, 8:05 am

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Lol, I forgot to eat today, or was it yesterday? Does anybody really know what time it is?


I do that all the time and I don't know what would happen if I didn't have hubby. When I'm away from him I always drop like 30 lbs and look like a skeleton. I don't have a good sensation of hunger and I get involved and forget time.

Then I read what Seriousgirl's hubby said and I went in crying to dh convinced he secretly hates me because I don't notice whether I'm starving or he is either. He's the only thing I get emotional about and it's probably not things he's worried about and I'm missing all the things he is worried about.


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30 Apr 2007, 8:08 am

Nice pics, Lemon. You have quite the artiste look to you ! ! Serene, too.


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