makuranososhi wrote:
computerlove wrote:
Don't make him do it... if you want the kid to have a miserable life.
If should be FORCED on any age, not just kids. Aspies need to be taught to look into people's eyes, and they also need to have classes where you are forced to socialize
and learn about teamwork,
learn how to relate to other people
and learn entitlement,
and have self-confidence,
to have a chance to make it in life.
Completely disagree; forcing people into things builds resentment and aversion. Looking at people's eyes was uncomfortable... I eventually learned and decided to make that change - the eyes were easier than looking at their faces. But not everyone is a round peg for a round hole. Learn how to function as oneself, not as someone else decides is correct.
M.
So basically you are saying that it's ok, all in the name of "don't let the person feel uncomfortable?" and that
you prefer to see a population of aspies that can't hold a job, or even worse, have to live on goverment support, charity or be homeless? Oh, and let's not forget that in some countries like mine there's no government support for the unemployed.
Unfortunately the forum has plenty of stories about all of the above mentioned, people who have lots of difficulties even
getting a f***ing interview. And on the other side you have this person, very capable, with plenty of knowledge, that when in a interview will be seen as not good enough for the job, just because he avoided eye contact or doesn't know how to chit chat.
All in the name of "let's not help him to be better, it's better the way it is".
And then you'll say "but being aspies has worked for some people like X and Y", and yes, I agree, but
that's the exception, rare cases, not the majority as one would expect.
Um, no - those are your words and your perspective on that choice. Forcing someone to do something isn't going to make anyone a better person. That isn't to say there aren't benefits to learning eye contact, but your suggestion that it be forced upon people leaves me sickened. Being able to make eye contact isn't going to necessarily get one a job - having just spent a number of months cross-country seeking employment, I speak from my own experience here. And let me ask this - what then of those who are 'forced' yet are unable to comply or maintain these 'skills' that you speak of? Reasons are many, our experiences are but our own... it is folly for any of us to think we know best for others.
14 Jul 2009, 4:38 am
