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20 Jul 2014, 6:11 pm

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I think a really big lie is that aspies don't role play / use imagination.


I spent my teenage and young adult years role-playing a lot with my dolls and stuffed animals even though my mother thought it was very abnormal for someone my age. After my diagnosis I learned that this may have been due to my difficulties having friends and being social in real life. Apparently this happens with girls with Asperger's more so than boys. I don't role-play as much as I used to, I'm mainly into collecting and organizing my dolls and plushies, but I want to role-play with them and get really frustrated because it's like I can't think of what to act out or enjoy it. I also used to draw cartoons and write stories and make comics a lot more when I was younger but now it's harder for me to even think of drawing stuff just for the fun of it. Maybe the computer really has destroyed my imagination, even though I was having this problem before I started going on it every day. Playing console games seemed to have no effect and I haven't played them in a long time. When I was younger I wasn't diagnosed and was under all kinds of stress, like having to live in a group home for people with severe mental illness, so that might have something to do with it. :(



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20 Jul 2014, 9:10 pm

I agree, I work with allot of NT's that truly lack empathy and sympathy. If I tell them I do not feel well they tell me to shut up and quit complaining. For me I'm overly sensitive to others. I lady came through my line today and her credit card would not work and she had no other way to pay. I started feeling a shakiness inside and almost started crying. It was as if I could feel her pain and sadness. I'm still sick about it. I also have this happen with animals. I no longer can eat meat because of this. It seems as if I can feel the animals pain when they were killed. I can not watch anyone in pain. It makes me hurt so bad inside. Just thinking about it makes me hurt.


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09 Aug 2014, 11:07 pm

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11 Aug 2014, 5:35 pm

The big one is for me is "Math". Many people ask me to answer math problems for them. I SUCK at math. That I must have a high IQ. Although my IQ is 130 it does not mean I know everything. That I have only 1 very narrow special interest. Wrong! I switch my special interest all the time. One week it is Quantum Physic's the next week it many be Genetics.


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13 Aug 2014, 7:53 am

I keep reading (often by Aspies themselves) that Aspies aren't really into sex that much.

My NT wife has to beat me off virtually all day long with her long handled broom.

She also gets sick of me cuddling, kissing, hugging etc. She says 'Let me breathe'. She gets really annoyed sometimes. I tend to be able to read her better these days and know when its a definite 'no fondle' day



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13 Aug 2014, 3:27 pm

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That we are ret*d. Don't believe it when they are trying to paste us as that, its just bias.

An Aspie co - worker was being fired in my organization. The female manager, a bright CPA who recruited the top 10% of accounting students said "we can't have people who are ret*d in our organization, of course you can't say that." And this said to an HR person (like two hit men planning a kill). She later became a CFO at another company. The 52 year old co worker was replaced by someone half his age via a PIP (performance imporevement plan which was nothing more than a vicious propoganda package to pull the trigger on something which had been decided months before - I had seen the document saying "to be terminated" in third quarter by his name they had on their excel sheet for employees in the organization months before the PIP was initiated. This man had been bumped by downsizing into her department, lucky guy huh.

I believe the woman was a liar and a fraud. She even changed up his job into something which was not really do-able. She had one set of performance standards for the 52 year old and another for the 25 year old who she indicated she would promote in the third quarter after the 52 year old was fired and this when the 25 year old had been on board only two weeks! How in the world does one make these kind of plans unless they are biased. Don't let some sleazy lying scum trash you as being ret*d.

The 52 yo co worker got a better, higher paying job after the firing.

yep, definitely this. i've gotten my fair share of "ret*d" and talking it out doesn't work. you just can't reason with those people. like talking to a bloody wall.

"aspies like math" is another big one for me. tv shows like to circlejerk around that one, it seems.


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21 Aug 2014, 4:44 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
Derek281 wrote:
That we are ret*d. Don't believe it when they are trying to paste us as that, its just bias.

An Aspie co - worker was being fired in my organization. The female manager, a bright CPA who recruited the top 10% of accounting students said "we can't have people who are ret*d in our organization, of course you can't say that." And this said to an HR person (like two hit men planning a kill). She later became a CFO at another company. The 52 year old co worker was replaced by someone half his age via a PIP (performance imporevement plan which was nothing more than a vicious propoganda package to pull the trigger on something which had been decided months before - I had seen the document saying "to be terminated" in third quarter by his name they had on their excel sheet for employees in the organization months before the PIP was initiated. This man had been bumped by downsizing into her department, lucky guy huh.

I believe the woman was a liar and a fraud. She even changed up his job into something which was not really do-able. She had one set of performance standards for the 52 year old and another for the 25 year old who she indicated she would promote in the third quarter after the 52 year old was fired and this when the 25 year old had been on board only two weeks! How in the world does one make these kind of plans unless they are biased. Don't let some sleazy lying scum trash you as being ret*d.

The 52 yo co worker got a better, higher paying job after the firing.

yep, definitely this. i've gotten my fair share of "ret*d" and talking it out doesn't work. you just can't reason with those people. like talking to a bloody wall.

"aspies like math" is another big one for me. tv shows like to circlejerk around that one, it seems.


Definitely this one! Or that we can't keep up and need to be talked slow to. I'm not stupid! I just can't express my thoughts as well as an NT can.
Another one is that we feel no emotion or are always rude and inconsiderate/lack empathy (not cognitive).



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24 Aug 2014, 1:12 pm

I'm fine. No problems here. Everything is normal.


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31 Aug 2014, 2:46 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
serenaserenaserena wrote:
I think a really big lie is that aspies don't role play / use imagination.


I spent my teenage and young adult years role-playing a lot with my dolls and stuffed animals even though my mother thought it was very abnormal for someone my age. After my diagnosis I learned that this may have been due to my difficulties having friends and being social in real life. Apparently this happens with girls with Asperger's more so than boys. I don't role-play as much as I used to, I'm mainly into collecting and organizing my dolls and plushies, but I want to role-play with them and get really frustrated because it's like I can't think of what to act out or enjoy it. I also used to draw cartoons and write stories and make comics a lot more when I was younger but now it's harder for me to even think of drawing stuff just for the fun of it. Maybe the computer really has destroyed my imagination, even though I was having this problem before I started going on it every day. Playing console games seemed to have no effect and I haven't played them in a long time. When I was younger I wasn't diagnosed and was under all kinds of stress, like having to live in a group home for people with severe mental illness, so that might have something to do with it. :(


I had a similar experience as a male. Except with legos(and stuffed animals) and video games. I would play old RPG's that had minimal dialogue and use my imagination within the world of the game to compensate for friends a lot. I played with legos until I was a teenager when my legos mysteriously disappeared (i.e. my parents thought it was inappropriate and disposed of them. They did the same thing five years earlier with my stuffed animals.)
Nowadays, I have a very large collection of video games that I don't play, I desire communication and my imagination isn't cutting it anymore so I go to online forums.

As for having to live in a group home for people with severe mental illness... That's terrible. :( I also experienced something similar. When I was a child I had all my toys taken away and spent most of three years locked in a small room at my parent's house, during that time I would use school equipment to roleplay, and I would be beaten for that.

I would agree with you wholeheartedly.



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10 Nov 2014, 7:30 pm

I have to say that the biggest annoyance is the "lack of empathy/selfishness" in aspie men. I think many men have such a huge amount of complex emotion. Just because an NT is outwardly emotional and very expressive, it does not mean they have more empathy or less selfish. I think there are times when a person can feel so much of an emotion that it cannot possibly be expressed to the extent of the person's satisfaction. My grandfather was British and very stoic and understated when it came to emotions. I think of the time when grandmother died and he just had his normal everyday expression at her funeral. He shook hands and nodded when people came to him. I left the funeral with my mother to go to another part of the cemetery to locate the grave of another relative. We ran into someone my mother knew and we stayed and talked to the lady for almost 2 hours. Coming back to the car (we left it close to my grandmother's grave). We came up to the car and noticed my grandfather sitting on the ground next to my grandmother's grave with this hat off and his handkerchief out wiping his eyes. No words, just a private time that we let him have and left in the car rather than go to him. He never seemed emotional... but he felt things I know. Fast forward to now and I know someone who seems to not react to things. I mentioned that I had a headache to a man (aspie) I know. He must have noticed that I was not contributing to the conversation. He didn't say anything and went on with the discussion. Lunch break, I walked down to the cafe and decided to get something to eat. I returned and in the hallway, I see him look at me and look away after nodding. I finally walked up to my work area and I see a bottle of excedrin and a bottle of water sitting in my spot. Nothing else. No note. I couldn't think of who did it since my coworkers all denied getting it for me. The next day, I see him passing in the hallway and I say hi and ask him if he got the headache medicine for me. He hesitates and turns red and nods. I said thank you to him and tell him I truly appreciate it. He didn't say a word, but he did something to try to fix my issue. This told me that he was thoughtful to consider the fact that I had a headache. He had the empathy in his own way and sought out the most logical way to try to fix the issue. People may not always manifest empathy or emotion or love the way we think it should be, but it's there in a form that's truly as unique as their fingerprints. To say Aspies are without empathy is not the most accurate assumption. Like my dear biology teacher said a long time ago "never assume... because it makes and A## out of "u" and "me" ... spell the word "assume" and divide up the word into the first 3 letters and "u" and "me". Well, it was a nice play on letters. Guess you had to have been there to fully appreciate a old biology teacher in a raspy smoker's voice, dressed in a big flower dress saying this to her impressionable students. Later on in years, she died in a house fire in which she fell asleep with a cigarette in her hand. Point is, many aspies have emotion and empathy and love.



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10 Nov 2014, 8:16 pm

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I have to say that the biggest annoyance is the "lack of empathy/selfishness" in aspie men. I think many men have such a huge amount of complex emotion. Just because an NT is outwardly emotional and very expressive, it does not mean they have more empathy or less selfish. I think there are times when a person can feel so much of an emotion that it cannot possibly be expressed to the extent of the person's satisfaction. My grandfather was British and very stoic and understated when it came to emotions. I think of the time when grandmother died and he just had his normal everyday expression at her funeral. He shook hands and nodded when people came to him. I left the funeral with my mother to go to another part of the cemetery to locate the grave of another relative. We ran into someone my mother knew and we stayed and talked to the lady for almost 2 hours. Coming back to the car (we left it close to my grandmother's grave). We came up to the car and noticed my grandfather sitting on the ground next to my grandmother's grave with this hat off and his handkerchief out wiping his eyes. No words, just a private time that we let him have and left in the car rather than go to him. He never seemed emotional... but he felt things I know. Fast forward to now and I know someone who seems to not react to things. I mentioned that I had a headache to a man (aspie) I know. He must have noticed that I was not contributing to the conversation. He didn't say anything and went on with the discussion. Lunch break, I walked down to the cafe and decided to get something to eat. I returned and in the hallway, I see him look at me and look away after nodding. I finally walked up to my work area and I see a bottle of excedrin and a bottle of water sitting in my spot. Nothing else. No note. I couldn't think of who did it since my coworkers all denied getting it for me. The next day, I see him passing in the hallway and I say hi and ask him if he got the headache medicine for me. He hesitates and turns red and nods. I said thank you to him and tell him I truly appreciate it. He didn't say a word, but he did something to try to fix my issue. This told me that he was thoughtful to consider the fact that I had a headache. He had the empathy in his own way and sought out the most logical way to try to fix the issue. People may not always manifest empathy or emotion or love the way we think it should be, but it's there in a form that's truly as unique as their fingerprints. To say Aspies are without empathy is not the most accurate assumption. Like my dear biology teacher said a long time ago "never assume... because it makes and A## out of "u" and "me" ... spell the word "assume" and divide up the word into the first 3 letters and "u" and "me". Well, it was a nice play on letters. Guess you had to have been there to fully appreciate a old biology teacher in a raspy smoker's voice, dressed in a big flower dress saying this to her impressionable students. Later on in years, she died in a house fire in which she fell asleep with a cigarette in her hand. Point is, many aspies have emotion and empathy and love.


Anybody who says aspies have no emotion and empathy obvoiusly never has read wrong planet.


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11 Nov 2014, 1:33 am

russiank12 wrote:
Kiprobalhato wrote:
Derek281 wrote:
That we are ret*d. Don't believe it when they are trying to paste us as that, its just bias.

An Aspie co - worker was being fired in my organization. The female manager, a bright CPA who recruited the top 10% of accounting students said "we can't have people who are ret*d in our organization, of course you can't say that." And this said to an HR person (like two hit men planning a kill). She later became a CFO at another company. The 52 year old co worker was replaced by someone half his age via a PIP (performance imporevement plan which was nothing more than a vicious propoganda package to pull the trigger on something which had been decided months before - I had seen the document saying "to be terminated" in third quarter by his name they had on their excel sheet for employees in the organization months before the PIP was initiated. This man had been bumped by downsizing into her department, lucky guy huh.

I believe the woman was a liar and a fraud. She even changed up his job into something which was not really do-able. She had one set of performance standards for the 52 year old and another for the 25 year old who she indicated she would promote in the third quarter after the 52 year old was fired and this when the 25 year old had been on board only two weeks! How in the world does one make these kind of plans unless they are biased. Don't let some sleazy lying scum trash you as being ret*d.

The 52 yo co worker got a better, higher paying job after the firing.

yep, definitely this. i've gotten my fair share of "ret*d" and talking it out doesn't work. you just can't reason with those people. like talking to a bloody wall.

"aspies like math" is another big one for me. tv shows like to circlejerk around that one, it seems.


Definitely this one! Or that we can't keep up and need to be talked slow to. I'm not stupid! I just can't express my thoughts as well as an NT can.
Another one is that we feel no emotion or are always rude and inconsiderate/lack empathy (not cognitive).

well it is very nice the 52 year old is doing better after being shunned from that place. :)

my words float around my head incessantly like confused flies, it is not easy always to grab the specific ones i want, to stitch together a sentence when it is not preconstructed in my mind. as a result my own words and sentences come out comparatively show and perhaps this is what entices other people to talk slowly in return, but i know a counselor whose manner of speaking is like an automatic firearm and i have no problems understanding him.

also yes on that last one!! i certainly am full of emotions but i do not express them outwardly often.


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