disowning society

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Well it depends. Some aspies love solitude more than anything. I myself am of the variety who likes company (but has difficulty achieving it).

I'm in my early 60s... and used to be one of the least resourceful people in the world. You see this alone thing is an illusion. You have to get magic in your life to be a vehicle. Then you realize this whole universe is your own Self. And to realize that is quite the opposite of a tragedy.

Even if we prayed nonstop to God to be alone....all God would be able to do is grant us the illusion of being alone. On the other hand, all we really have is ourselves and we're stuck with that.

do you have a tractor? i'm struggling with the small acreage thing, mine's very neglected (all i could afford) and there's just so much work everywhere you look. around here you get the neighbours to slash (mow) the fields for you so there goes solitude.

i have psycho neighbours on one side, they built one metre from the boundary (they have 3 acres, I have 16) and are disputing the boundary over about 3 inches (the council required them to get the boundary surveyed when they built). my house is about 25 metres from that boundary so you see and hear them quite a lot, ugh.

If you were asking me...no tractor. 16 acres is good. The ideal, if practical, is to situate yourself so that you're surrounded by enough of your own land that neighbors won't be too close. When you're getting your fields slashed, you may want to leave the grass between you and the psycho neighbors unmowed.. And plant some tall spreading foliage or thick hedges there...trees if they will grow in your vicinity...and whatever else would serve as a barrier between you and the neighbors.

Although you may want to consider selling or living in a yurt or tipi further into the middle of your property.. Be patient with all the work that needs to be done. It can take several years to afford and achieve the results you envision.

yeah i put a whole row of screening shrubs and small trees on the boundary.

this is my first year, 12 months in feb, so it's been hard, there's a lot of neglect to catch up with. well ran dry a week after i moved in (vendors lied about the water supply). there was a spare tank on one gutter for emergency supply (house water was ground water, from well), so i had to carry all water into the house for 3 months.

how long have you had your hermitage?

Usually the first few years are tough. If you are building or repairing...all these things take time. And money. And you are forging a brand new life. At first you'll most likely feel driven to start a ton of projects. But after awhile - this happened to me anyway - it all seems fine just as it is. There was one point where I just had to have a root cellar, as I had decided years ago I would have one if the opportunity ever arose. But it never got built. And that's ok.

omg, you guys have been building your hermitages? This has to be the most fascinating subject I've read on in a long time!! !! So many people to interview, such little time...

Greentea please don't believe the lie. Even if you feel alone, allow yourself to open up to the reality.


This word alone....let's look at it. The missing l is code for illusion.

***********alone = all ONE**********


In this case, the missing l means it's an illusion. Put the second l in there and you have the reality...there is only One and that One is All. All inclusive. Nothing is left out. Nothing. In truth you are the whole enchilada.. All divisions, all separations, are a mirage..Not one mosquito can be left out and have the whole still be whole. Every part matters. Every part is essential.

Actually there are no parts, because it doesn't work that way. The whole can't be broken down into parts. So all that exists is the One. And you are it. The reason you are it is because there is nothing else you could be.

The magic trick in all this is to get yourself into a spacetime, a frame of mind, a reference point, or any other way you can devise......to shatter and collapse the false reality in which you feel alone and isolated and rejected... as opposed to ALL ONE...... Even though the false reality can be shown to be false, until it is seen to be false, it can be the source of agony and misery.....however such misery is a construct of the mind based upon a false assumption. If you want to be free or spiritually awaken you must find a way to break out of the hypnotic suggestion..

Humans are not special. We've been taught to believe we are. But we aren't. We're just like a tree or a mosquito or a dolphin or a flower or a cloud. We're all the same. We're all the One. And we're in constant eternal communication because everything is connected with everything else. Everything vibrates as One. What we call parts, objects or pieces have no separate existence apart from the One. If you think about this for a very long time, you will see that it can't be any other way.

The trick is to quiet the mind so you can hear all that communication going on..

You're very right. Thank you for giving me a different perspective. It'll take me time, but I certainly want to reach that state of consciousness. This thread and the female Aspie one have certainly enlightened me on this path. It's very hard when everyone around me is the total opposite, though. Today my car got stuck without battery and I called the road service, who came and politely and swiftly fixed it and that was all. The car was by my house. But everyone around me was pitying me for having had to call the road service all on my own, ""something a woman should never have to do on her own"".

I don't know about 'building', I got no DIY skills so I use tradesmen. I bought a rundown old house on a very neglected acreage. The deck was rotten and the metrebox was covered by a sheet of black plastic (the door had come off some time ago apparently). There's no basin in the bathroom and no shower, just a bath and toilet. So I had to move a wall back make the bathroom big enough to get a basin in there, also the toilet was disgusting so I replaced it, put a shower in over the bath. The kitchen was just as bad, no laundry...so I got a new sink with mixer tap and some laundry taps put in. It's nearly finished, just need to paint and get a kitchen bench.

Trouble is my hands are really dodgy from office work (RSI) so the painting will have to wait until they're better.

Awww...awesome read! Some years ago I started writing a novel about someone with AS who had bought a rundown house and refurbished it to get away from society in, very much like what you tell. It's fascinating to know someone like that for real ! Do you have a blog about it where I could read more?

I am working towards buying land in the desert and living by myself. I've been pricing out how much it would take to buy land, put in well/septic/propane, buy and install a solar power system and propane generator, and buy and put up a mobile home and garage, and it's NOT cheap. My current estimates are running around $150,000. With the banking system collapsing I don't know if I can get the loans, even if I do have my own business. I am thoroughly sick of living in a city. I loved it when I was younger, but conditions seem to be deteriorating, there's annoying music playing at all hours, really nasty people everywhere, many of which demand that you give them money even if you have none then get furious when you explain this to them, there's gang graffiti everywhere, many of the buildings are abandoned, many of the shopping centers are full of for lease signs, it just seems like society is really deteriorating and it's no longer safe to live among others. I don't want to be in a city if a Big Collapse does suddenly happen and we're suddenly plunged into a Mad Max style of living. It seems to be getting like Mad Max even without something big.

pezar -- good on you.

I think most of us started out looking for our dream but ended up with something quite different. Then whatever you end up with....that's what you turn into your dream.

So you are starting to realize you want your own land. You're motivated to do all kinds of research. Decide exactly what you want and see how much it costs. Then make adjustments. A lot of adjustments. Work at this from basically 2 directions:

1)What you want which in practical terms means-- what you will settle for
2)What's available that you can afford

Then you figure out how you can live on your property [preferably legally] even if it means you will have to endure some discomfort at first. You work gradually toward your goal. One thing at a time. And whatever discomfort you have to endure is almost always worth it. Of course it depends on what you're trying to do and how much you can spend.

You'll need to be flexible with your dream and willing to do all kinds of workarounds. The most important factor is the desire to make it happen one way or another...and be flexible about how it will be achieved.

Last edited by alba on 28 Jan 2009, 11:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Fascinating read!

dunno about the desert, water is the most basic supply you need, you'd have to be pretty confident about the groundwater having a long life. around here most of the springs are drying up.

i rarely use the internet, or forums anymore. i literally sit in my apartment for weeks upon end and rot.