Disturbing comments on a poll I created...

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So I recently created a Facebook poll asking whether incest should be legal, and one of the commentators wrote "who was the sick f**k that created this poll?".

Somebody indirectly called me a sick f**k for creating a poll with a controversial subject? I mean, I knew the poll would be controversial, but I didn't think it would gain such hateful comments. Do you think I should delete the poll? Of course, I'm not even sure if Facebook will even let you delete polls you created.

I'm not trying to gang up on anyone here, but I perceive the poll question itself as somewhat disturbing. However, I don't think that what the person said was a mature response. I'd delete it if possible.

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Incest is all about power, and its uneven balance. Children under fourteen are not capable of consent to any sex, let alone an assault by a parent. Sex between a teen over 14 and dad or mom seems dysfunctional, and can only lead to misery.

Make it legal for dad to rape daughter or son, or mom to rape son or daughter? I would fight it, and millions more like me.

Why bring age into it? the kings of ancient Egypt married into close relatives for a very log time with no bad effects because there were no bad genes in the family. Incest is dangerous because bad genes show up creating genetic diseases.

Biblically, for those who use that type of reference, Adam's family had no one else to marry.

I didn't intend for this to turn into a debate.

What were we expected to comment on?

I was hoping for some advice as to whether or not I should delete the poll I created.

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There are many human beings, some members of this forum, who have been victims of incest, often involving child pornography. There will be psychologcial scars, anger, fear and depression. If I was such a victim, I could have answered very emotionally and perhaps without regard to your feelings.

Your question is not one that can be logically answered with a yes or no, and then go merrily on one's way, unless of course, I was a person who wanted incest to be legal, and then I would mount a huge argument stating why I thought it should be an act for which I am not criminally charged.

I can understand the emotional factor that could come into play, but I don't see how calling me a "sick f**k" would be necessary, especially considering you don't even know how I answered the poll. All I asked was whether or not people thought incest should be legal, and of course I'd encourage debating, but insulting me is where I draw the line.

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I did not call you sick, nor did I insult you. Strange.

I was not talking about you. When I created that poll on Facebook, somebody called me a sick f**k in the comments section.

I would say that one person who responds to such an extreme degree has some insecurity issues. It could be he's have feelings of guilt or shame because he once lusted after his cousin or a barnyard animal (or in some cases, they are one and the same).

If you delete the poll, do so because you genuinely believe it is a mistake that has had negative impact on those who have seen and responded to it. I don't see how you are in the wrong here.

As far as the real issue goes: We live in the kind of society that is disgustingly permissive about sexual behavior. If I understand correctly, France permits cousins or maybe even siblings to have consensual sex as long as they are of age.

In the US, TECHNICALLY that kind of thing is illegal as well as taboo. But the trouble is law enforcement. TECHNICALLY you can get away with pedophilia as long as both parties keep their mouths shut and no one has reason to suspect anything. We just get so fired up about what goes on with people younger than 18 years old that it becomes a topic. Personally, I don't buy into all this garbage about "kids growing up too fast." Kids as young as 14 are capable of making grownup decisions. I say let 'em, and make sure there are grownup consequences if they choose foolishly.

And no, you don't have to worry about me being a pedophile. I have two kids of my own, and the idea of abusing small children is repulsive to me. My point is that we're so permissive with sex out of marriage and homosexuality that, in my mind, loosening up on things such as incest and age-of-consent only seems like the next logical step.

I think his original poll question was in the frame of two consenting near-relatives. Incest does not necessarily equate child fornication or molestation. Just like sex doesn't necessarily equate rape.

Then we've got a lesson in choosing to be more clear with what the question is about, don't we? I would, in fact, have assumed as you did, that one was talking close relatives both of similar age and both of the age to marry. However, clearly, others did not and for that reason I would answer the original posters question with DELETE YOUR POLL on FaceBook.

Among other things, EVERYTHING you create there becomes advertising fodder, and you've just sold yourself to a database as having an interest in a very distasteful topic. That will follow you for a very long time, and is search-able by potential employers. As, really, is everything here, but at least here you've got a screen name, and not your real name. Point being, is that really what you want to crop up in a background search? GET RID OF IT.

And don't be surprised when people respond here to a different question than the one you meant to ask. The PPR forum attracts those who like to argue about all sorts of controversial and distasteful topics. It's a sport for the mind, I guess

We're kind of pushing the edge of the terms of service (offensive material) regardless of the extra leniency for PPR and I'm getting some more opinions on that. Just fair warning.

Last edited by DW_a_mom on 24 Jun 2010, 10:59 am, edited 1 time in total.

Incest is perceived as being very disturbing in this culture. Calling you a "sick f**k" is not odd. To many people, this isn't even a question, and a rather disturbing as well. No, there is no consistent logic behind this attribution either, "sick f**k" is just a word to any person who violates these sorts of norms. (You can note though, from Sartresue's engagement of your point, that your question might cause some people to think of incestual rape rather than adult consensual incest)

I don't know whether you should delete the poll though, as it is entirely your choice. So long as you are anonymous, then there is no risk. If someone can figure out your real name from the polling service, then you perhaps should delete it.

As for the record though, I think I am pro-legalization. (but relatively indifferent) My reasons are the following:
1) I don't see the government's role or right to monitor sexual activity.
2) I doubt that the law really is the big reason people don't commit incest anyway. The law likely really exists because people are disgusted by this.
3) Incest does not necessitate children being born.
4) Even if it did, I doubt that the genetic losses from one incestuous coupling would be so negative that such a thing would be unconscionable compared to some person with some other major medical condition breeding.

I thought that incest was a matter of sex between people of close genetic relations. Now, yes, children under 14 are not capable of consent, and I believe this is already reflected in most, if not all, laws as rape.

Frankly, I believe many sex laws are such that there has to be a close equality in age, or even adulthood between individuals who engage in sexual behavior.

I don't think that the discussion that Descartes is talking about is "rape" at all. I think it is contextually clear that what is being talked about is consensual adult incest.

The major thing required for I think consensual adult incest really tends to be separation for a long time discovery of the relative at a much later date.