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sufi
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04 Jan 2011, 7:28 pm

I usually don't mind not having any friends. If I start to feel bad about no friends it is mild and I get over it.

But sometimes, when the world get grey and shrinks to a two foot circle surrounding me, I just wish there was one friend, who knew me, who gets me, who can listen, who can understand pain, who can help me see options, and remind me the universe is unfolding as it should.

Just one person. just one

Hell, no wonder I don't have any friends - that is asking an awful lot of one person and pretty damn selfish attitude.


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04 Jan 2011, 7:56 pm

don't know how old you are......it gets easier to be alone as you age. no, you don't get used to it but it's easier to accept. wish i had better news. why i love dogs and cats and rabbits and cows and.......!



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04 Jan 2011, 8:21 pm

I'm 62, and yes it does get easier accepting no friends. Just I would love someone to call and just talk to, ask for counsel. Perhaps someone older and wiser?
And ya, one of my cats would listen better. I have a yearning for a new kitten. I need to find one.


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04 Jan 2011, 9:33 pm

Your situation is one that is all too familiar to me and I suspect a lot of others on WP. The relationship issue is the hardest one to deal with I think, regardless of what type it is. I wish I could offer some good suggestions, but I have the same issues as well with no solutions.

What I can offer is to chat with you via email for now if you wish. I am 65, so I am at least in the same age bracket as you.


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05 Jan 2011, 3:33 pm

67 odd here, and out of that I have had two people I could really talk to, one of them my wife - in the sense of SAYING anything. That's not counting some relatives my wife brought with her.

And yes, there were times in there when a warm body in the same room or on the phone was enough, but it is not the same as REAL talk.

Sounds like you missed that - but it is totally unpredictable, someone can still walk past and recognize you.



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05 Jan 2011, 9:53 pm

Thank you all,
I do believe what I am feeling is what a lot of people feel but never talk about.
It is almost shameful, not to have someone close. You get to think to your self 'I'm not worthy of a trust worthy friend.
Ya I can and have paid a psychiatrist for council but just to listen, but it is not really the same thing. He/she does not listen because they love you.

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And yes, there were times in there when a warm body in the same room or on the phone was enough, but it is not the same as REAL talk.


I have been married 41 years, and during that time it is sad we never really talk.
It works because we don't hassle each other and agree on most marriage type stuff, and I know he loves me, accepts me and does not try to change me. So often tho we are bodies in the same room.

A few people in the past who I thought were friends, they all left. So now I no longer can afford the emotional investment in trying to find a BF.

Which is why I sometime times wonder why there could not be one person, just one.


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05 Jan 2011, 10:55 pm

I absolutely know the feeling. I am fortunate to have one close friend, but when she gets too busy with her own life it can be very lonely for me. I can be surrounded by people but it doesn't make it any less lonely, because I don't feel like anyone really 'gets' me.



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05 Jan 2011, 11:43 pm

I have always considered my partner to be the one close friend I could talk to, and I have had two good long term relationships, but now that my last relationship has ended I feel lost. I have a few friends but no one I can really talk to in the way that you describe. If you want to talk to someone on the internet, you can feel free to PM me.



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06 Jan 2011, 1:12 am

there is not a more lonely sensation, than to feel alone among many.



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06 Jan 2011, 5:20 am

auntblabby, your comment has resulted in a flashback, I had forgotten.
1965, I was at an FTA convention, sleeping over at another high school girls house. Chad and Jeremy's song "Everyones gone to the Moon" came on the radio.

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Streets full of people …all alone …
Roads full of houses …never home …
Church full of singing … out of tune …
Everyone's gone … to the moon


I remember her saying, "How can a person be all alone in a street full of people? I don't get it."
I remember thinking, 'how can you not understand that, it happens all the time.'
Even at 17 I knew what the song meant.
She must have been one of the popular kids and never felt that kind of loneliness.


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06 Jan 2011, 5:32 am

I've found not having relationships easier to handle since my post-childrearing relationship started to flower. It took a decade or so of that before the aspergers diagnosis emerged to address certain disagreements, and another decade since then to begin to stabilise (late diagnosis can be traumatic). I think we'll have to dig into the social resistance to competent or semicompetent autistics before we start finding it easier to form relationships though.



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07 Jan 2011, 12:29 am

sufi, Talk to us.
That's why we are here.



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08 Jan 2011, 7:00 am

You've reminded me of the song 'Alone' by Suicidal Tendencies. Beginning goes:

I scream at the sky, it's easier than crying
I'm shyish when I'm shouting out loud
I feel so alone in a room full of people
I'm loudist when I'm in a crowd
I'm alone, and nobody hears me
Can't nobody heal me, won't somebody help me
I'm alone, I just need
Someone to take my hand and pick me up when I'm feeling down
Someone to take my heart and give it a home
Someone to be with me and help me through the times when I'm
down and lonely
Someone to be with me when I'm alone

I'm not a huge fan but this song is great and does ring true for me.



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08 Jan 2011, 9:15 am

A perfect example why music and the arts are so important.
Yes, this is how I feel. I often don't put feelings in to words very well, but there sure are others that do.


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19 Jan 2011, 8:00 pm

About being alone (even in a crowd), and lonely...I've had a lifetime of that too. Even in my family, who just thought I was a strange,crazy person and that I needed to Change! I had my dogs for hugging a warm bodies and expressing what no one else would listen to. I had a sister (with the same opinion of me as the rest of the family), who had an "oil and water" relationship with me--and she was always right (in her mind!) Even those conversations were better when I felt so alone! She died unexpectedly two years ago and I miss her!

But I guess for me, listening to music (like the stuff already posted), and journaling, getting angry at it all, sleeping on the bad feelings--then getting up and leaving it if I could--doing something to try to problem-solve, to create something constructive, or so interesting, and I could keep going. Worked a lot of the time!

And seeing all the dysfunction in the relationships around me helped a bit! But sharing with the folks here sounds like a SUPER thing to do!



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20 Jan 2011, 11:33 am

sufi wrote:
I usually don't mind not having any friends. If I start to feel bad about no friends it is mild and I get over it.

But sometimes, when the world get grey and shrinks to a two foot circle surrounding me, I just wish there was one friend, who knew me, who gets me, who can listen, who can understand pain, who can help me see options, and remind me the universe is unfolding as it should.

Just one person. just one

Hell, no wonder I don't have any friends - that is asking an awful lot of one person and pretty damn selfish attitude.

You're saying what I've felt practically every day of my life. I don't think it's selfish to want somebody who would care that much. All you're describing is a good relationship. I hope you find it, and I hope I do too. Meanwhile at least you've got us.