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04 Jan 2012, 12:33 pm

I recently tried to get a new non driver's id and couldn't get one because you need 6 points worth of documents and I have a maximum of 3-4 points. I don't know how to get more. I have a birth certificate (0 points but proof of age), social security card (2 points), ged (1 point), and a credit card if it counts (1 point). It's prepaid and has my name but no signature. It's also about to expire and I'm not getting a new one because it costs $6 a month. I have my old id but to count it has to be expired less than 2 years and it's been almost a decade.

Surely there must be a way around this. People with less stuff than me must get ids somehow.

I'm not working, am not on welfare (the lady at the dmv even asked me if I had a benefit card :evil:), and don't have a bank account (can't get one with no id) so I don't think I can even get anything else on their list. A lot of documents you can use are related to work, welfare, or banking. I don't even know if I could get a job or apply for things like welfare or social security with no id.



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04 Jan 2012, 1:17 pm

hanyo wrote:
I recently tried to get a new non driver's id and couldn't get one because you need 6 points worth of documents and I have a maximum of 3-4 points. I don't know how to get more. I have a birth certificate (0 points but proof of age), social security card (2 points), ged (1 point), and a credit card if it counts (1 point). It's prepaid and has my name but no signature. It's also about to expire and I'm not getting a new one because it costs $6 a month. I have my old id but to count it has to be expired less than 2 years and it's been almost a decade.

Surely there must be a way around this. People with less stuff than me must get ids somehow.

I'm not working, am not on welfare (the lady at the dmv even asked me if I had a benefit card :evil:), and don't have a bank account (can't get one with no id) so I don't think I can even get anything else on their list. A lot of documents you can use are related to work, welfare, or banking. I don't even know if I could get a job or apply for things like welfare or social security with no id.


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05 Jan 2012, 11:16 am

Do they count bills? I'm not sure where you live but usually an electric or utility bill or something like that can contribute. If you are living with someone else, see if you can get a bill put in your name.

*When I clicked on this thread I was expecting some sort of Freud discussion. lol


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05 Jan 2012, 11:23 am

ral31 wrote:
*When I clicked on this thread I was expecting some sort of Freud discussion. lol


Heh.

I have this problem too, I need to get this to get that to get the other, it's a pain in the backside


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05 Jan 2012, 11:26 am

I don't have any bills in my name and I think the only one that counts for points is the utility bill. Even if that got changed to my name I'd still be short 1-2 points. I'd rather not. We just recently had it switched on in my mother's name.

Until my recent move we didn't even have a utility bill. It was included in our rent. If we ever get an apartment through my mother's job we'll have utilities included there too.



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05 Jan 2012, 12:17 pm

If you have any Native American in you, do a Google search for a local tribe of that area. Tribes are organizations that you pay dues to join, and you can join if you have a certain amount of Native American blood. They usually don't need proof because there usually isn't any.

Once you join their tribe, they send your name to the Bureau of Indian Affairs and they issue you a Roll Card which comes in the mail with your name and the roll number on it. All government agencies take roll cards, and many take tribal cards. I have one.

You will also be eligable for several grants and scholarships with that.

Most tribes only require 1/16th of the blood that they represent.

It's the honor system with most of them, so please don't abuse it.

I used my birth certificate, social security card, and roll card for my ID. I always use my roll card as one of my ID's. It's on almost every government list, but most people don't even know what one is. Several years ago when I went with my husband to get our taxes done, I only had my license with me, and they needed another one. I couldn't find my SS card, and my birth cert was at home. I showed them the roll card. All the girls wanted to look at it and they all said "So THATS what that is! I wondered!"


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05 Jan 2012, 2:17 pm

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Not sure about the US but usually expired IDs can count for ID points when applying for a new ID


The paper I got from the dmv says the old one gives 6 points but only if it's been expired less than 2 years. If it's been expired more than 2 years it doesn't give any points.



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05 Jan 2012, 2:42 pm

I've never heard of "points." What State are you in? My last teenage driver only needed a birth certificate and my signature to get her license - aside from passing the tests and paying money. I don't think she even needed her SS card, but maybe she did.

Is this point thing something new? I have to go get my dad a State ID card and I would rather know about any possible hassles before being confronted with the sudden stress. I was taught in high school that everyone over age 18 has to have some kind of ID on them. Now that Dad had his license taken away by his doctor, he needs the State card.


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05 Jan 2012, 2:49 pm

I'm in New York trying to get a non driver's id. According to the dmv when I went you need at least 6 points. If your previous license or non driver's id is less than 2 years past the expiration date you should have no problem but if it's older you might have some problems.



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05 Jan 2012, 5:11 pm

hanyo wrote:
I'm in New York trying to get a non driver's id. According to the dmv when I went you need at least 6 points. If your previous license or non driver's id is less than 2 years past the expiration date you should have no problem but if it's older you might have some problems.


In Maine, all you need is a Birth Certificate, a Social Security card, and proof of address. --It does help as well if you have a previous ID, or current one from another State.


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08 Jan 2012, 1:23 am

Maybe you can get a passport and then either you don't need the NY id or the passport will get you more points for the NY id.



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08 Jan 2012, 4:29 am

I've read that getting a passport is easier than getting a non driver's id but it's expensive. From what I've read online it's over $100. I'd also have to get a certified birth certificate to get it. I'd have to have my mother get the birth certificate for me since I don't have what you need to get it myself from what I've read online.

I just want to get a basic state issued id for if I want to get things like a bank account or a job and they make it so hard to get.

Edit: Actually I think I'd need an id to get a passport although I could probably have my mother "Fill out Form DS-71: Affidavit of Identifying Witness in the presence of a Passport Agent". I don't think she is going to want to pay over $100 for me to get a passport though, especially since I don't need one.



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11 Jan 2012, 12:28 am

In Ontario you can pay about $35 and get a general-purpose government photo ID. It's meant to help out families and others w/o driver's licenses. Is that done anywhere else?



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20 Jan 2012, 3:20 pm

Have someone mail a letter to you at your address, and then take the envelope and other current i.d. to the local library and apply for a library card. That ought to be worth an extra point.

I also clicked on you thread expecting a Freudian discussion. :)