Transitioning to Adulthood: I need your advice
Hello, everyone. I appreciate you taking the time to respond for me.
I write a blog for the autism/Aspergers community, called Thrive with Aspergers.
My theme this year is "transitioning to adulthood".
Most important to me in writing on this topic is to get input from you who are Aspergian adults.
What are some key areas, topics, suggestions you have for me as I write on this topic: (I'm writing both to young Aspergians and to their parents).
Also, Please let me know if it's okay to quote you from the answers you give.
Speaking as a parent of, it seems to me that a hard transition for my daughter to make was learning that many of her problems were caused by herself instead of the responsibility of someone else. She learned that the self-protective myths she told herself were vastly untruthful. She learned that she had some control over off-putting autistic behaviors such as stimming. She learned to discuss with others how her behavior was affecting them and checking out what their perceptions and assumptions were. She learned it was better to be assertive than to be resentful. She learned that procrastination mainly harmed herself and didn't really achieve any relief from tension.
That shift in the locus of control was really slowly achieved and hard.
And now from the other side of the coin - a late-diagnosed high functioning aspie myself - once I figured out which causes of friction actually originated from my own behavior, it was relatively easy to get along better in the world.
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BeaArthur - great feedback. You said the shift in the locus of control was slowly achieved and hard: how did you assist her in that process?
Guidance, focusing, and letting her fail sometimes ... but to everyone's surprise, succeed sometimes too.
I do think it is possible for a parent to do too much, resulting in an adult child who has few skills and no self-confidence in their own abilities.
Breaking down challenges into manageable increments, and explaining that that is what we were doing, was probably the main method that I used.
Sometimes just "being there" (literally - saying/doing nothing, but being there) for hard phone calls or social service or medical appointments was helpful, too. When she did something on her own, recognizing that and praising seemed to be helpful.
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Bea always gives good advice.
As for me, yeesh, i'll let you know when i do transition!
I think one thing to consider is the set societal ages of "accomplishments". E.g. you must have had sex before 21 (seems a big issue for some on this forum),, you must be on your own fully at x age, you must complete schooling in z years, you must have a fancy job by y age, be married by q, and so on. If we take those as gospel, we're left feeling like crap for not even keeping up with the basics that "everyone" else does. (Or so we may get stuck thinking).
Instead, being allowed to be who we are...at the rate we are and the age it happens. If we take 8 years to finish a degree, surely that's better than dropping out at 2years due to feeling beyond overwhelmed and ineffectual.
If we don't have sex or find our life partner when others are, it's okay.. We struggle with things others innately possess. As such, it's not realistic that we'll be on others' timetables. The same as some of us being math whizzes at age 5, we're just on a different timeline..
This isn't to say we get a pass for all behavior or shouldn't push ourselves to learn and overcome challenges... Just that acceptance - paticularly self-acceptance of the Fact that we're each different...and it's OK...it frees us to go forward with our stream at the rate and direction it goes..versus becoming so focused on where and who we Should be that we instead spend all of our energy fighting the current and getting nowhere.
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"When does the human cost become too high for the building of a better machine?"
I found ... Am still finding it hard to govern my life in directions, for the directions available all are unfamiliar, and I can make no mental image for myself that I then can pursue.
As an example: would I want a family? I don't know. Would I prefer to live in a city or in the countryside? - I can't tell.
Intellectually, I'm able to appreciate all these concepts, but I find it inpossible to imagine myself doing any of these things.
As you can imagine, I had a bit of a rough start, career-wise, as I found it unimaginable to just write to a company and ask for work.
I needed help for every tiny step. Now I'm doing fine-ish in that respect, but I really needed guidance regarding what is expected of me when looking for work, a flat; which insurances I'd need.
I just hadn't gotten *any* of the memos.
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I can read facial expressions. I did the test.
You might find it helpful to listen to one of my podcast episodes in which I interviewed Barbara Bisonnette who is a certified career coach specializing in helping Aspergers adults. (http://bit.ly/employment-help)
As an example: would I want a family? I don't know. Would I prefer to live in a city or in the countryside? - I can't tell.
Intellectually, I'm able to appreciate all these concepts, but I find it inpossible to imagine myself doing any of these things.
As you can imagine, I had a bit of a rough start, career-wise, as I found it unimaginable to just write to a company and ask for work.
I needed help for every tiny step. Now I'm doing fine-ish in that respect, but I really needed guidance regarding what is expected of me when looking for work, a flat; which insurances I'd need.
I just hadn't gotten *any* of the memos.
Transitioning into adulthood is a stressful time for everyone. It is especially stressful when you do not develop the same way that others do. The advice that might work for an NT would be disastrous for someone with AS. As a young adult who had significant difficulty transitioning to adulthood, I would like to share some of the things that helped me.
Socially:
I am not on the same wavelength as most of my peers. I never have been. I either appeared too immature or too advanced simultaneously. When I was an adolescent, I tried my best to fit in by mimicking my peers. This, of course, did not work. I learned to mimic some of the behaviors that made others social successful, but when people got to know me, they realized it was all a facade. Fortunately, I had some peers who were also studious and responsible. They knew how to have fun without engaging in high-risk behavior, and they also knew how to be good friends. They supported me even though I was self-destructive and intent on being a criminal and a drug addict. I would encourage any young person with AS to find a group of friends who are positive and not worry so much about being "cool". In hindsight, I was incredibly lucky because I am very naive. I couldn't handle the street life, even though I thought I could. My more stable, responsible NT friends kept me from stepping into some bad situations. I think it is important to have that kind of support when you are learning how to navigate the adult world.
Sexually:
My sexuality is not like the average NT person. It has taken me a long time to accept that fact. I wish I had had a better indoctrination into the world of sex and relationships. The average NT advice for dating totally messed me up. None of it applied to me. My needs in a relationship are different, and that is okay. The most damage I have done to myself is trying to fit into the NT mold of relationships instead of being true to myself.
The hardest part for me practically has been learning to empathize with women. When I was younger I had no clue what women wanted. I had no clue how to tell if a woman was attracted to me. I had no understanding of how my behavior impacted a women emotionally. I am by no means a relationship expert but dating and having a relationship is doable for me now. I guess I am a late bloomer. The things that helped me most were perceptive NT friends who understood what my deficits were (interpreting body language and lacking empathy). I had a much older friend who taught me the subtle clues that a woman was interested (the body language, things they would say). I was in my mid-twenties before I had a clue how to tell if a woman was into me or not. Once I learned, I was able to stop sabotaging myself by approaching unobtainable women and unknowingly rejecting women who I had a chance with. Another thing that has helped me is the fact that I gravitate toward women when forming friendships. Non-sexual relationships with women have helped me to see things from a woman's perspective. A lot of the things I thought were important and disqualified me from dating, my female friends informed me weren't important at all. This helped me feel like dating wasn't impossible.
School/Career: I have executive functioning issues. I cannot multi-task well. Even though am intellectually gifted and graduated near the top of my high school class, my first attempt at college was a disaster. I find that taking 1 or 2 classes at a time, not the traditional course load, was the only way I could get through college. It took me 11 years to get my degree, but I got. I just couldn't do it the NT way. I think it is important for aspies to know their specific limitations and try to work around them. Another thing about me, I don't know if it is an aspie trait or not, is that I cannot motivate myself to do something I am not interested in. My career is related to one of my special interests, and I believe that is why I am good at it. I would encourage a young aspie to focus on what he or she is interested in when trying to pursue a career. My technical ability in my field makes up for my social quirks. This is why I am able to get and keep a job despite my obvious aspie traits.
Self-care: I still struggle with this--especially when I get overwhelmed. My parents were lenient. I had no chores growing up. It has been difficult for me to learn basic things life cooking and cleaning. What has helped me is to ask someone to teach me or to look up how to do things on the Internet. I can learn pretty quickly by reading. Grooming was also an issue. NT friends and ex-girlfriends helped me learn how to dress and groom myself to be presentable. My executive functioning problems still get me though, even though I know how to do things. I've had to adjust my expectations of what I can do. I live with my mom now instead of having my own place because working and keeping up an apartment was too much for me to handle. I feel okay about it because I realize nobody--NT or aspie--has it all together all the time. Part of being an adult is humbly accepting your limitations and trying to do the best you can anyway. I've been a late bloomer in all aspects of my life. If I keep working on my self-care skills, maybe I will be able to handle living on my own when I get older.
Money:
One thing my parents were good at is trying to teach me about money. I grew up with the expectation that I would work or go to school. I knew about checking accounts and stuff like that. My parents still give me advice and show me how to live frugal. I've learned over time not to ignore their advice about these things.
I don't know if any of that was helpful. You can quote me if you want, if you like something I wrote.
Thanks for writing all that, em_tsuj. The amount of detail you gave was very helpful. I hope your post gets more circulation. Especially all the 20 year olds who are suicidal because they are still virgins ... or because they still live with a parent ... may be encouraged by what you shared.
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em_tsuj, Thanks so much for your detailed post! What's challenging for me is to write for the AS community and to present helpful solutions, versus "NT" solutions that may not work. Any thoughts on how I can come up with AS friendly solutions? (One of my main strategies is to get information directly from Aspergians/autistics)
Thanks! I will continue to do so.
Thanks to everyone who contributed in this thread: I put together a podcast episode and article, if you'd like to listen to/read it:
http://www.myaspergers.net/what-is-aspe ... adulthood/
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