If we stop collecting data, Asperger has nothing to feed on

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I don't know if anyone else has tried this, but as I go through very busy social periods like Christmas, I keep reminding myself to 'dump the data'.

In the old days I would be watching other people, remembering who had said what, what their facial expressions had been, trying to keep track of all the conversations that had happened, and all that data storing up in my head would just lead to overload and I often had a 'system crash'.

Now I just keep reminding myself to let the data go, I don't need it..... and no system crashes, all going well this year.

Very best
JC
http://unlearningasperger.blogspot.com/

I imagine that it is probably rather like what a teacher feels like after a hard day at school, (remembering each childs contribution, assessing, relating, tracking back to, keeping an exhausting eye on what everybody is doing, supervising, etc) when leave the building and can stop behaving like that.
put feet up, relax.

I suppose if Aspergers and HFAS's social skills impairment were indeed very largely the result of modelling oneself on teachers in the classroom,
see pages 1-2 of thread on this subject, at :
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt51838.html

aswell as being encouraged to believe one has knowledge to impart at age 4 by inappropriately overly-available mothers ( or fathers), ( see page 3 on same thread)

then it might be possible to "lose" the conditioning; to stop acting compulsively like teachers do in the classsroom, and to experience life simply as a highly sensitive introvert, probably with a poorly developed proprioceptive system, with difficulties concerning body-boundaries/connections etc, as a result of imposed immobility in infancy, incl reading too early.

When i have exercised I definitely noticed a change in my relationship with my body and to the world, but it does not last when stop the exercise. It is a very positive short term side effect of exercise but after the age of 7-9 does not change the structure of brain anymore.

I think school before 7/8 has so much to answer for.

oh wow just remembered that resentment of a person during formative years can often result in oneself becoming like that person.

Resentment can grow in those situations where experience oneself as powerless, as having no choice.

This resentment of someone in power over you, against whom can do nothing, will often express itself in an unconscious copying of that person. Odd but true. Maybe some evolutionary advantage in it. But unfortunately if copy the person one sees as a teacher in the classroom are copying a "job" rather than a person.

I need to stop loathing and resenting teachers/schools. My dad was a teacher and he brought his job home with him, so it's not just at school where "picked" it up, but i already, over a few decades, got over my issues with my dad, so i think it may all be school related. AND my "aspergers" "traits" have got worse and worse since I had a child, and especially since my son and I had the two unpleasant encounters with the school system.

Hmm.

( goes off thinking..)

Highly sensitive introvert children are maybe more likely to resent teachers, and classroom conditions.

I have been able to remember moments with my mother aged a few months, but school? ... from the moment i walked into one aged almost 5, until i was about 9 years old, i remember practically nothing. Suppressed; it was so utterly stupefyingly intolerable to someone sensitive and introvert. But I believed that school was obligatory; I thought that i had no choice.

The irony is that i have unwittingly become like that which i hated. See behaviours listed as social skill impairments on linked thread above.

And since most children go to school now from age 5 or earlier this "copied model" created in the crucible of fear and loathing has become widespread.

Last edited by ouinon on 27 Dec 2007, 12:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.

The saddest most ironic thing would be if this acting out of teachers went so far as to reproduce the social isolation inherent by definition in the role of teacher in a classroom.

Ouinon this is interesting stuff. I think you are absolutely right that you have to stop blaming things and people in your past - they are fallible human beings just like us, so they make mistakes just like we do, it's just a fact. The way forward now is to help your brain stop taking these wrong turns (I think Albert Ellis' REBT - e.g. www.rebt-cbt.net - has been brilliantly effective for me). Best wishes

That's one way to describe the way I think!!

At the moment I am thinking that the way forward is to abolish schools before age 7-8, to integrate/involve children in adults lives , their working lives, from day one, provide more flexible education methods, and give children greater freedoms so that the experience of both parenthood and childhood become less damaging/traumatising.
At the moment children in the West are practically paralysed. Parents role is a combination of residential carer for disabled and prison-warder.

Aspergers and autism scare has been created , like homosexuality was in late 1800s to "encourage" men into marrying the thousands of women "left on shelf" by war losses, and getting restless with it! , to frighten people back into parenthood which adults have been fleeing increasingly, and not surprisingly, for a few decades now. ( producing the increasingly huge numbers of old people in the population)

"We" are goats dressed by psychology/psychiatry/the media as dogs/wolves to scare the sheep. Society is not so much concerned with us ( with people labelled as aspergers or autist) , but with the increasing numbers of adults living alone, not having children, and has made a bogeyman to frighten them back into the fold.
See my thread at :
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt52407.html