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16 Mar 2008, 8:56 am
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16 Mar 2008, 11:39 am
16 Mar 2008, 12:04 pm
NO!! !! !! !
This is the most frightening thing I've heard in a long time. This would violate these children's privacy and "personal space", for lack of a better term. There is no way it could be executed fairly. How do you identify children who could be future criminals without bias? How do you define "violent behavior" in such a young age group?
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Pugh, though, believes that measures to identify criminals early would save the economy huge sums - violent crime alone costs the UK £13bn a year - and significantly reduce the number of offences committed.
Unfortunately, the correlation between violent behavior exhibited during childhood and violent crime is just that - a correlation. Many people who have never been violent commit crimes and many occasionally violent children grow up to be law-abiding adults.
More importantly, DNA databases are tools for identifying and convicting those who have committed crimes. This may prevent criminals from committing more crimes, but it does not prevent or erase the crime for which for which they are caught using the DNA database.
If the UK trusts these methods for identifying potential future criminals, and is committed to reducing crime, why not direct their resources towards prevention methods so that the DNA database would not have to be used so frequently?
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However, he said the British public needed to move away from regarding anyone on the DNA database as a criminal and accepted it was an emotional issue.
If he is correct that British people currently regard anyone on the database as a criminal, then there is a chance that this perception will persist and these children will face stigmatization and discrimination for the duration of their lives, no matter what efforts are made to change the pubic's way of thinking. Stereotypes die hard and tend to out-live public denial of their existence.
16 Mar 2008, 2:35 pm
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16 Mar 2008, 2:58 pm
YowlingCat wrote:
To what end, to make their own clockwork orange?
The almighty state, indeed. This is a clear violation of these children's civil rights, to be deemed a criminal by accident of a possible polynucleotide transcription error? Cue Beethoven's 9th...
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Anthony Burgess wrote that the title was a reference to an alleged old Cockney expression "as queer as a clockwork orange".¹ Due to his time serving in the British Colonial Office in Malaysia, Burgess thought that the phrase could be used punningly to refer to a mechanically responsive (clockwork) human (orang, Malay for "man").
Burgess wrote in his later (Nov. 1986) introduction, titled A Clockwork Orange Resucked, that a creature who can only perform good or evil is "a clockwork orange — meaning that he has the appearance of an organism lovely with color and juice, but is in fact only a clockwork toy to be wound up by God or the Devil; or the almighty state."
In his essay "Clockwork Oranges"², Burgess asserts that "this title would be appropriate for a story about the application of Pavlovian, or mechanical, laws to an organism which, like a fruit, was capable of colour and sweetness". This title alludes to the protagonist's positively conditioned responses to feelings of evil which prevent the exercise of his free will.
-WikipediaBurgess wrote in his later (Nov. 1986) introduction, titled A Clockwork Orange Resucked, that a creature who can only perform good or evil is "a clockwork orange — meaning that he has the appearance of an organism lovely with color and juice, but is in fact only a clockwork toy to be wound up by God or the Devil; or the almighty state."
In his essay "Clockwork Oranges"², Burgess asserts that "this title would be appropriate for a story about the application of Pavlovian, or mechanical, laws to an organism which, like a fruit, was capable of colour and sweetness". This title alludes to the protagonist's positively conditioned responses to feelings of evil which prevent the exercise of his free will.
The almighty state, indeed. This is a clear violation of these children's civil rights, to be deemed a criminal by accident of a possible polynucleotide transcription error? Cue Beethoven's 9th...
oh, NO! not Ludwig VAN!! !
Merle
16 Mar 2008, 3:32 pm
16 Mar 2008, 3:39 pm
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