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mindysparrow
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09 Feb 2008, 1:24 am

i have been sexually, physically and emotionally abused by my adoptive parents---do any of you think this is harder or easier to handle for an aspie versus a nt? or is it common place? comments?



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09 Feb 2008, 2:45 am

I'm sorry. I think thats probably equally horrible whether you're NT or Aspie.



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09 Feb 2008, 3:42 am

mindysparrow wrote:
i have been sexually, physically and emotionally abused by my adoptive parents---do any of you think this is harder or easier to handle for an aspie versus a nt? or is it common place? comments?


ah that is horrible, ive been down the same roads, and with my adopted father who was an alcoholic hurt me a lot, but not anything sexual at all, when he wasn't drinking, he was the best father god could ever give me! I think any person who suffers serious things like that is bad for anybody, I know we're prone to going to depression more then nts though.


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09 Feb 2008, 4:16 am

Ya, tho equally bad for NT and AS person alike, I think the responses will be different sometimes and maby ability to deal with or NOT deal with later on in life can be different.


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10 Feb 2008, 12:12 am

woodsman25 wrote:
Ya, tho equally bad for NT and AS person alike, I think the responses will be different sometimes and maby ability to deal with or NOT deal with later on in life can be different.


I agree. Equally bad, different ways of dealing with it.



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10 Feb 2008, 12:09 pm

All aspies are different from one another. I for instance hardly ever give things that happen to me a second thought. Whereas I take it wery hard when bad things happen to somebody else. Even reading your post, non descriptive as it is, made my stomace turn. I hope you are okay, or atleast will be.


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10 Feb 2008, 5:31 pm

Whilst in itself it might not be worst, I think it is worst in that we allready have enough to deal with without the additional problems abuse in Childhood gives rise too.



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11 Feb 2008, 12:03 am

My partner was sexually abused as a child by her father (may he rot in jail) and she's as NT as they come. She'll wear the scars for the rest of her life.

Given the additional difficulties we aspies/auties face, one could deduce that it would add up - but after meeting my partner, I have learned that you can't quantify suffering, you can't compare trauma. Sadness is sadness, all bad times are bad. What's black is black.

That's my two cents.


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11 Feb 2008, 1:47 pm

Aaron_Mason wrote:
Given the additional difficulties we aspies/auties face, one could deduce that it would add up - but after meeting my partner, I have learned that you can't quantify suffering, you can't compare trauma. Sadness is sadness, all bad times are bad. What's black is black.


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11 Feb 2008, 1:56 pm

Legato wrote:
Aaron_Mason wrote:
Given the additional difficulties we aspies/auties face, one could deduce that it would add up - but after meeting my partner, I have learned that you can't quantify suffering, you can't compare trauma. Sadness is sadness, all bad times are bad. What's black is black.


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I'll throw in my vote for that as well.


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11 Feb 2008, 11:25 pm

It's a toughy. Judging by personal experience I'd say...
Both.

Because, although it is more confusing to for instance reach out or get help--for an aspie, our very misunderstanding of the world -IN GENERAL-might help protect us from where our heads would goto if we were NT.

I can go away in my head and still be present. I hada housemate who went away in her head--and disapeared.

By all rights--Aspergers is why I was unidentified as abuse, as well as why I continue to survive it's effects--if this is living.

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12 Feb 2008, 12:24 am

I hope you reported them, no-one deserves to get away with that.



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16 Feb 2008, 2:18 am

mindysparrow wrote:
i have been sexually, physically and emotionally abused by my adoptive parents---do any of you think this is harder or easier to handle for an aspie versus a nt? or is it common place? comments?


I believe it's MUCH worse for an aspie.

I had the violent physical and emotional abuse from my alcoholic father and codependent mother. And some sexual molestation issues that were from a relative (and I did tell and nothing was done). When I read Temple Grandin's book all I can think is how fortunate she is to have supportive and loving parents, and how different my life may have been if I grew up with the same. Instead if anything was weird or out of line or 'off' with me I was pretty much beaten into submission.

With the sensory problems, anything violent is felt so much deeper. Abuse is abuse but I've talked with many NT people who were also abused as kids and I've never heard any of them describe the same shock and horror that I felt. They never reported running for the back of their closet and rocking and screaming until they literally passed out and then being sick for days. I used to get bronchitis or some physical illness all the time from the emotional upset.

So I think we can tend to feel it more, internalize it deeper, and think of this - if the world already doesn't make sense to you and you're a child who is trying to learn where you fit in (and you don't), your home is a much larger Safe Haven then it is for NT kids. You are depending on your family to help you, teach you, possibly shelter you. And when they instead turn on you and abuse you - it makes the world exponentially that much more impossible to decipher.

My hot button to this day is anyone who does not tell the truth. I was lied to so much as a kid and I often can't tell if it's a joke or sarcasm or a lie or the truth, so I find it the ultimate betrayal to be lied to.

If this abuse has been happening recently or if you're still in it (even worse) I hope you will report it to the authorities right away.



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16 Feb 2008, 2:46 am

earthmom wrote:
I believe it's MUCH worse for an aspie.

With the sensory problems, anything violent is felt so much deeper. Abuse is abuse but I've talked with many NT people who were also abused as kids and I've never heard any of them describe the same shock and horror that I felt. They never reported running for the back of their closet and rocking and screaming until they literally passed out and then being sick for days. I used to get bronchitis or some physical illness all the time from the emotional upset.

So I think we can tend to feel it more, internalize it deeper, and think of this - if the world already doesn't make sense to you and you're a child who is trying to learn where you fit in (and you don't), your home is a much larger Safe Haven then it is for NT kids. You are depending on your family to help you, teach you, possibly shelter you. And when they instead turn on you and abuse you - it makes the world exponentially that much more impossible to decipher.


I agree. In my childhood, I was not only physically abused, I was forced to watch my father inflict horrible beatings on two of my severely autistic siblings, for stimming. He didn't know about autism, and was physically abused as a child, as well.


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18 Feb 2008, 10:17 pm

I thought it was interesting that my counselor (before anyone realized I had AS) suspected that my behavior, depression and anxiety was because of sexual abuse.

When I was 2 I showed signs of being abused and my mom immediately took me to a child psych who confirmed it. She then threw an abusive family member out of our lives and it ended. I don't remember any bad incidents and I could honestly not care either.

The counselor insisted this is the reason why I behave they way I do and have emotional issues. My husband believed it too, even though both my mom and I insisted that that couldn't be it. They said it was probably sub conscious. *shrug*

Eventually I figured out on my own that it was AS as everything fit perfectly. I think that while they recognized something was a bit "off", their lack of training on Autism confused it with sexual abuse instead of AS.



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18 Feb 2008, 10:27 pm

I was emotionally, and occasionally physically, abused by my parents (mostly my father). It especially disturbed me because of my strong sense of social justice.


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