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Nostromos
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29 Mar 2009, 1:23 am

You put twice the effort into life for half the reward, and not many respect you for it. In fact, you can expect people to mock you for wanting the same things everyone else does: money, success, sex, approval. Wouldn't most people think nothing of murdering the mentally ill to celebrate their superiority? Anger is a destructive habit of mine, but it's so addictive because it gives a sense of power. I just can't accept how helpless and humiliated I often feel. How dare anyone invalidate someone else's life like that.

I'm starting to practice Buddhism and interact with people more, am in a serious relationship now where I do really try to make my girlfriend happy. But how do you deal with your anger? What has been your experience with hatred?



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29 Mar 2009, 2:41 am

I frequently internalize it or am otherwise unable to properly process it.



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29 Mar 2009, 8:11 am

Nostromos wrote:
But how do you deal with your anger? What has been your experience with hatred?


i can feel anger. i can not feel hatred. i do not understand what hatred really is. i never wished anyone to be dead or anything if that is what hatred is.

how do i deal with anger? i usually mutter to myself, but if someone tempts me into an explosion, i usually relate to them every thing i find pathetic about them.
it does not matter how long term a friend they are, i will tell them everything i have ever noticed that i think is pathetic about them.

then i tell them to go and not come back. that is private anger.

my public anger is going to get me in trouble one day.
i made a serious scene at a supermarket once where i dare not to return to.
i was in a self serve checkout, and i scanned all my goods, and then i pressed "finish and pay", and i paid.
then, as i walked out, the siren started bleeping about me. i stopped and turned around, and a supermarket employee wanted to check the contents of my bags against the receipt i got. so i suffered the indignity of having 5 minutes of my time wasted while my bags were emptied onto a desk and every content was checked off against my receipt!! !.
they decided that it was the batteries that i bought. they were registered as paid for on the receipt, but there was a bug in the system which means their alarm strip was not nullified when i scanned them.
they said sorry it was the batteries, and i was absolutely feral with rage, so i took the batteries out and threw them at the head of the person who caused me anger by mistrusting me, and he ducked and they hit a shelf of coffee tins, and they caused a spill in that aisle.
i said "keep your f*cking batteries you pieces of sh*t!! ! i paid for them, but you can have em back!! !! don't block my exit now...."

they let me go, but i do not want to venture into that supermarket again.

i have insufficient anger management when i am falsely accused, and one day i will be arrested for it.
if those batteries had hit the persons head i was aiming for, they would have legitimized a charge of assault.

i just like to keep away from the public mainly.
i am safe by myself.



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29 Mar 2009, 12:05 pm

I've been angry at the way people treat me because I don't speak to them but I'm receiving therapy.
I would recommend you to try to relax when you're angry. Take yoga classes or learn relaxation techniques.
The most important thing is to be happy with yourself, as with the uneducated majority, let them be jerks. They'll never understand. Find your passion, love your family and most importantly, find inner peace. It looks like you are on the right track though.



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29 Mar 2009, 2:15 pm

I went to anger management. It helped a bit. You want to try and deal with the root cause of your anger (frustration, loneliness) if you can. I guess just accept that you have AS and life is not going to be fair to you at all, and try to focus on things in life you can attain and enjoy. Life is very frustrating with AS, and the cycle of failure/disappointment/anger is really taxing... you have to find things in life that take your mind off your anger and frustrations, hopefully that will make it easier.



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29 Mar 2009, 4:14 pm

Run, use a dammit doll, journalize, music, painting, punching a pillow, therapist, anger management, this forum, another forum, cats- they seem to calm me down when I'm at my worst....poor creatures, and that's about it.

Use to have a friend or two to talk to but not anymore.


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29 Mar 2009, 4:15 pm

My anger has been preeeetty bad recently, everything seems to anger or frustrate me. It's only at home though, I'm really calm at school but something happens at home and I just go boom.
When I do get angry I either shout/yell or cry or almost cry which hurts my throat somehow, I hit myself, I'm just really losing control. Even hearing my mum sing makes me feel like destroying the world. I don't know what's going on, I just keep gettig frustrated all the time. It's just a matter of time until it happens at school too.


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07 Apr 2009, 5:16 am

I stopped trying to do the things that I thought were "the right things to do,"
and started living a life dedicated to what I thought was honoring myself and everything around me.



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07 Apr 2009, 2:16 pm

Space wrote:
I went to anger management. It helped a bit. You want to try and deal with the root cause of your anger (frustration, loneliness) if you can. I guess just accept that you have AS and life is not going to be fair to you at all, and try to focus on things in life you can attain and enjoy. Life is very frustrating with AS, and the cycle of failure/disappointment/anger is really taxing... you have to find things in life that take your mind off your anger and frustrations, hopefully that will make it easier.


I utilize my anger to invoke justice whenever I see fit. Life can be more fair if you take it by the horns instead of passively standing by. The more passive you are, the more you will be taken advantage of. This is the law of the jungle.



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08 Apr 2009, 1:09 pm

I hate NT for treat me like shi*,insult me but i'm waiting for therapy but the Health System in Quebec is suc*. I waiting 1 year now for my test result i pass in last May. And nearly same for my rendezvous with the specialist.



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08 Apr 2009, 8:40 pm

I can relate to what Nostromos said. Especially the part about trying twice as hard to get what most people seem to take for granted and still coming up empty and feeling helpless because of it. I think that's where most of my bursts of anger come from. I disagree with the sentence about NT's killing us to celebrate their superiority (hell most of them don't even know what AS is) but in my darker moments I can see how you'd feel that way.

But anyways, I get pissed off cuz I can't fit in, or get a decent job, or get any girls, or whatever and do stupid, destructive things all the time. For example:

I had an incident like b9's at the grocery store a few days before Xmas. I was pissed off cuz I couldn't afford the $3 to park at the hospital to pay my bill (for something they completely misdiagnosed. what part of back and chest spasms looks like bronchitis, exactly?) and drove towards home (wreckless as hell, of course) and then decided to stop on the way to get some booze to calm down (yeah, I know. I'm an alcoholic) before I beat someone to death with their own tonsils. Bad idea. At the store I started to panic/shut down/freak the hell out/whatever from the bright lights, annoying Xmas MUZAK, throngs of mindless consumers mindlessly purchasing things to consume, etc. I finally got my box of vintage 2008 purple Franzia and my pack of gum and stood in one of the 3 open lines and started nervously scratching the handle of the box with my thumbnail and chewing the inside of my mouth up (which was why I needed the gum) and noticed that the old lady in front of me had been trying to talk to my zoned out ass for a while. I finally gathered that she wanted me to go to the shorter line a little to my left but by the time I gathered my senses and started over there it was longer than the one i just left. Then when I turned back around the line I just left was longer too. Crap. I went up to a self check out machine, muttered something about it being a 1984ish as*hole piece of s**t or maybe something from The Terminator movies or a Dead Kennedys lyric or something walked towards the door , yelled something in fluent Klingon and threw the box of wine somewhere (where it fell I know not where) on my way out. I didn't go back in that store again for months.

I've got a million more if anyone wants to read em. Hell, I started reading this thread right cuz I kept screwing up a song on my guitar and ripped all the strings out, screamed like a madman, and slammed my head into this computer desk repeatedly.


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08 Apr 2009, 8:45 pm

Oh, and I forgot to mention that I smashed my rear view mirror and my windshield when I got pissed at the hospital and banged my truck into a tree cuz I pulled into the driveway waaay too hard.

And another thing:

Dude, you can say as*hole without gettinged *ed out but you cant say s**t?


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08 Apr 2009, 11:33 pm

J-P wrote:
I hate NT for treat me like shi*,insult me but i'm waiting for therapy but the Health System in Quebec is suc*. I waiting 1 year now for my test result i pass in last May. And nearly same for my rendezvous with the specialist.


Treating them horribly in return is a lot less expensive than therapy and feels much better.



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09 Apr 2009, 5:30 am

it is indeed an ongoing issue.



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09 Apr 2009, 8:05 am

I also have problems with anger. I tend to feel powerless at times and my anger gives me a feeling of power. A false sense of power because anger doesn't make it easier for me to find happiness. If anything it isolates me from people even more. Anger also brings out my negativity a trait which most people find unappealing. I have anger at people who have bullied me in the past. I have anger because my life isn't what I desire it to be.



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10 Apr 2009, 9:31 am

I've never had an issue with anger as such; being a very big man I realised that when I lose my temper I can do serious damage (something I'd rather not do unless absolutely necessary!).

I'm 32 now and I simply never feel/get angry. Bizarrely the first question I was asked when I initially sought help for depression/anxiety was "what are you angry about?". Frankly I had less idea what they were talking about than usual! I can't even hold a grudge for more than a minute.

I don't understand why so many Aspies have problems controlling their temper. Could someone explain this to me (I'm not talking about frustration or anxiety but sheer anger)?