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10 Nov 2011, 6:33 pm

my friend is interested in anime. he has talked a bit about hentai. he won't stop talking about it in fact :lol: typical aspie behavior. but anywayhe talked about child porn anime. i told hi that was pretty strange and i didn't want to hear it. he keeps bringing it up or hinting about it and im worried. not sure how to handle this situation.



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10 Nov 2011, 6:59 pm

Be upfront and honest with him. Tell him that talking about that type of porno (or any kind of porno really) is extremely unacceptable and will alienate him from other people. You would also do well to warn him that if he's looking it up on the Internet, he's putting himself at risk for getting into trouble with the law. That particular type of hentai is in a serious legal gray area, if not outright illegal.



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10 Nov 2011, 7:07 pm

IdahoRose wrote:
Be upfront and honest with him. Tell him that talking about that type of porno (or any kind of porno really) is extremely unacceptable and will alienate him from other people. You would also do well to warn him that if he's looking it up on the Internet, he's putting himself at risk for getting into trouble with the law. That particular type of hentai is in a serious legal gray area, if not outright illegal.

what do i do if he persists. i want to avoid getting him into trouble



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10 Nov 2011, 8:06 pm

moved from In-Depth Adult Life Discussion to Adult Autism Issues

i dunno what the answer is, OP. that stuff makes me extremely uncomfortable.



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10 Nov 2011, 8:57 pm

moved it back where it started as it isn't really an adult theme per se. sorry to give you whiplash!

just a caution - don't get graphic with any descriptions, ok peoples?



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10 Nov 2011, 9:40 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
moved it back where it started as it isn't really an adult theme per se. sorry to give you whiplash!

just a caution - don't get graphic with any descriptions, ok peoples?
true, no need to.



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11 Nov 2011, 6:30 am

I don't have any problem with it as long as it's fantasy and no real children are involved. I know others don't feel this way.

Out of curiosity how young? I have plenty of yaoi where the characters are teenagers and underage (legally bought in American bookstores). I've read fanfics with underage characters. Some people are so extreme that to them anything under 18 is "child porn". I'd say only prepubescent is.

Isn't this stuff popular in Japan? Shotacon and lolicon?

Edit: This may not be illegal depending on where they live.

I'd just tell them not to talk about it with people that don't understand because a lot of people think that thinking about stuff like this leads to doing it which isn't always the case.



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11 Nov 2011, 10:00 am

aspie48 wrote:
IdahoRose wrote:
Be upfront and honest with him. Tell him that talking about that type of porno (or any kind of porno really) is extremely unacceptable and will alienate him from other people. You would also do well to warn him that if he's looking it up on the Internet, he's putting himself at risk for getting into trouble with the law. That particular type of hentai is in a serious legal gray area, if not outright illegal.

what do i do if he persists. i want to avoid getting him into trouble


Aspie48,

Once you warn your friend of the potential trouble, you can do no more. You can only control your actions, not his.



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11 Nov 2011, 10:37 am

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I don't have any problem with it as long as it's fantasy and no real children are involved. I know others don't feel this way.

Out of curiosity how young? I have plenty of yaoi where the characters are teenagers and underage (legally bought in American bookstores). I've read fanfics with underage characters. Some people are so extreme that to them anything under 18 is "child porn". I'd say only prepubescent is.

Isn't this stuff popular in Japan? Shotacon and lolicon?

Edit: This may not be illegal depending on where they live.

I'd just tell them not to talk about it with people that don't understand because a lot of people think that thinking about stuff like this leads to doing it which isn't always the case.

well both of us are under 18 so anything is technically illegal.



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12 Nov 2011, 6:55 am

aspie48 wrote:
well both of us are under 18 so anything is technically illegal.


I meant the age of the characters. If they were 16 that's a lot different than if they were 6.



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12 Nov 2011, 5:25 pm

hanyo wrote:
aspie48 wrote:
well both of us are under 18 so anything is technically illegal.


I meant the age of the characters. If they were 16 that's a lot different than if they were 6.
oh ok. how do you tell the age of a a cartoon drawing?



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16 Nov 2011, 10:13 am

percieved age, due to the actions and way of 'speech', you can get into a decent ballpark.

also, indeed there is nothing you can do beyond warning him, if you dont want to hear about it, make that clear to him and leave it at that; since you both are under 18, this obsession is likely to pass.

if your friend really feels the need to talk to others about his obsession, maybe advice him to write an email to himself or something like that, i feel that that works for me.



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29 Mar 2012, 9:24 pm

I don't want to hear anyone talk about ANY kind of porn, it is sick disgusting and horrible!! ! Jeez, when I was younger I couldn't stop talking about Disney cartoons and people wanted it to stop, today the world is full of perverts, where did we go wrong???



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29 Mar 2012, 9:36 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
I don't want to hear anyone talk about ANY kind of porn, it is sick disgusting and horrible!! ! Jeez, when I was younger I couldn't stop talking about Disney cartoons and people wanted it to stop, today the world is full of perverts, where did we go wrong???


Porn doesn't bother me, but it's also never interested me. I understand not wanting to her someone that you don't know well talk about porn though. It's different if somebody is making a joke about porn or tells you something about a really wierd or funny porn movie the saw, but to go on and on about it, yeah, I agree.

My best friend and I went over to this one friend of her's house last summer. He's a nice guy and had been to a party that I had thrown at my house when my family was out of town and I was bored and lonely. He's real friendly and polite and all that. Well he invited us in and his place was spotless. Looked beautiful, like it had been decorated by a professinal. He got us drinks in nice glasses and we all sat down on the couch to talk and out of the blue he reaches for the remote and turns it on, and it's porn. He's got porn going and not really paying any attention to it, nor are we. Occasionally one of us would make a joke about what was going on on the screen or a remark about the actor or actress's looks, motivation, etc. But really mostly we weren't even looking at it. It was sort of uncomfortable. At first I was afraid he was going to try and get us to do something and I would have had to get mad, but he didn't. After we left I asked her about it and she said he always watches it. That's his thing. It's always on there no matter what. Oddly enough the guy has no gf, he's not gay and doesn't have a bf. It's not that he can't get one, he just doesn't want one. He prefers to just not have sex but he likes watching porn.

Of course I'm not talking about child porn here, nor cartoon porn. I don't really get how cartoons can be porn.


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31 Mar 2012, 6:10 am

I expect I'm stating the obvious, but it sounds to me like your friend is using anime to explore sexual ideas - you've said you are under 18 so I guess that hormones may be raging a bit?

If this is the case, maybe you could encourage him to join an autism forum for adolescents where he could participate in discussions etc. Anything that helps him to learn what he needs/wants to know in a safe environment could be helpful, and might just encourage him to move on from the anime porn.



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31 Mar 2012, 9:08 pm

Tell your friend that you are completely disgusted by any kind of porn that involves child characters, even if it's just cartoon porn. Make it clear that most people feel this way. Tell him that he can get into serious legal trouble by owning such comic books or digital files. People have ended up in jail for the possession of lolicon hentai, even in the USA.

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Manga collector Christopher Handley was sentenced to 6 months in prison last Thursday, after importing lolicon and yaoi manga from Japan that the federal government deemed obscene and prosecuted under the PROTECT Act of 2003, which states that any obscene illustrations, sculptures, computer-generated pictures or other imagery that depicts minors in sexual situations will be treated no differently from actual video recordings of child sexual abuse.

Handley plead guilty to the charges of "possession of obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children" as part of a plea deal with the government; he could have faced as many as 15 years in prison without it.


Source: http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/02/1 ... con-manga/

It might not make much sense since a cartoon is just that, a cartoon (that should protected as free speech imho), but that's the legal situation in pretty much all Western countries. Unless your friend wants to be registered as a sex offender for no good reason, he should better stick to legal hentai and pornography. That might be psychologically healthier for him too.