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23 Feb 2010, 4:06 pm

There is another aspect to this:

NTs have tremendous problems with their NT kids , of exactly the intensity they describe with in- spectrum kids, and indeed NT kids with their NT parents, for a different set of reasons.

These are not usually treated as pathology. Nor is a "cure" looked for.



People in white coats who like wearing shiny things on their heads when they talk to you, and have no reason to wear white coats and have shiny things on their heads when they do, you really scare me.



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23 Feb 2010, 4:13 pm

ERG , are you really sure they are that into the beliefs of a one testicalled , mid-twentieth century sociopath? Might be a bit of an extreme analysis you have going on there. Might not. But it's worth asking the question.



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18 Jul 2010, 10:22 am

Profiteers - Moneylusters - Moneylovers - either under the form of for profit or non-profit organizations, businesses, companies, educational or medical offices. Bottomline - a lot of these cure or abort people are only interested in money.



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18 Jul 2010, 12:23 pm

How about just 'people with different opinions'?

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NTzi?


Gotta laugh at that one though :lol:

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she wants to ask for paper by sitting on the bed next to me, grunting, and then getting up. Fine, let the wookie win.


that too. That's a really cute description :lol:



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18 Jul 2010, 8:03 pm

[quote="Asp-Z"][quote="bdhkhsfgk"][quote="gemstone123"][quote="bdhkhsfgk"][quote="Asp-Z"][quote="bdhkhsfgk"]You seem to be completely unaware of the fact that many parents of severely autistic children gets their lives destroyed, I can feel their pain.[/quote]

You seem to be completely unable to actually give me any evidence of that.[/quote]

I talked to some parents of autistic children IRL, and I asked them if they had to choose between a child with autism and an NT child, they would choose an NT child, because it's a burden to have a child with autism.

I'm an aspie, and I would definitely choose an NT child instead of a child with autism without a second thought, just ask your parents and friends if they would want to.[/quote]

That's too general a thing to say. Of course some parents would not want their autistic children to have difficulties (particularly if their children have severe autism) but at the same time a lot of people would not change their autistic children for NT children. However it depends on the parents and children as obviously some autistic children are extremely difficult to care for. Besides a lot of NT children are nightmares. :twisted:[/quote]

You can't compare NT children to children with autism, NT children have a future, children with autism don't, they end up in institutions.[/quote]

OK, that's utter crap. I present to you Bram Cohen - he has Asperger's. He invented BitTorrent, the biggest P2P network in the world. It makes up for about 40% of all internet traffic. He also started BitTorrent Inc. and has become a millionaire as a result.

Then, of course, there's the speculation of Bill Gates, Einstein, etc.[/quote]
Let's not forget Temple Grandin!



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20 Jul 2010, 1:48 am

*sigh*

Personally, I believe Autism is comparable to Asthma. Whatever people say about finding a cure or some other bull-crap about that. You can't cure it... All you can do is control it and nothing else...

These stupid researchers, doctors, and scientists need to stop this bickering about how autism is a disease that must be cured for the sake of the children "because 1 in ??? have it," and do the right thing and teach the aspies the proper ways about how to look at life. It's not like acting like nazis and exterminating aspies as unborn babies is going to make them look more humane than they're getting now. Also, it's not like aspie put up with more unnecessary bullcrap already being the laughing stock on earth both socially and internet-socially...

"Autism is not a tragedy, ignorance is the tradegy"

I couldn't agree more...



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20 Jul 2010, 2:20 pm

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I think the best way to oppose the neurologically biased is to promote neurodiversity.



Agreed.


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20 Jul 2010, 2:24 pm

If people had a life like mine, you'd understand why I wouldn't fight to live it.



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21 Jul 2010, 11:45 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Do you think the following children have a future?; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDMMwG7RrFQ&feature=fvst


Yes. And I have already told you that this video is not a reliable source of information as it was set up and fixed, plus Autism Speaks are very much in the business of producing propaganda that shows only one (very negative) side of autism.


These children will end up in institutions, they will never be able to live on their own.

Shut. The. f**k. Up.


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21 Jul 2010, 6:35 pm

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Do you think the following children have a future?; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDMMwG7RrFQ&feature=fvst


Yes. And I have already told you that this video is not a reliable source of information as it was set up and fixed, plus Autism Speaks are very much in the business of producing propaganda that shows only one (very negative) side of autism.


These children will end up in institutions, they will never be able to live on their own.


I presume you meant those children SPECIFICALLY, right? If so...

The woman in the pink shirt is Katie Wright, the founder's daughter (THAT is the most offensive thing about the video). That child will never go to an institution.

Based on your comments I am concerned about you. Unfortunately, I do not know what bridge you live under to protect you from the Billy Goats Gruff. There is absolutely no way I can convince you of anything that does not involve people going to institutions so these are all the keystrokes I will waste on you. Good bye.



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22 Jul 2010, 8:15 am

Hi to "aziraphale" & friends - - Some of those ones you refer to describe themselves as: Compassionate Conservatives.