The dark side of Aspergers: serial killers, sociopathy

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Did you know that a large percentage of serial killers are white?
THE DARK SIDE OF WHITE PEOPLE

OP, what are you smoking?

and if some had brown eyes, woukd it be the dark side of having brown eyes?

LOL

Im not sure what stats your looking at but somebody could argue that there are just more white people in the U.S. If your looking at the stats for Serial killers in the U.S.

It is very easy for ambitious law enforcement and prosecutors to seek opportunities to convict autistic people of sexual crimes against children. Autistic people cannot fight back as effectively as normal people in the legal system. Society is conspicuously outraged and sometimes lynches convicted paedophiles. But those who have been institutionalized while growing up learn sooner or later that autistic children are especially attractive to sexual predators. The Boston Globe June 10, 2001 reports that about 5 % of crimes against disabled result in convictions compared to 70% for normal people; possibly this is what makes them so attractive. Papers by David S. Mandell, Christine M. Walrath, Brigitte Manteuffel, Gina Sgro and Jennifer A. Pinto-Martin and papers by Ammerman tell us that sexual things being done to institutionalized autistic children is quite common. By this behaviour, the system has chosen to be a self registered in sex offender status having demonstrated how it behaves when it can get away with it. This should be thrown back into the face of anybody who wants to sell a claim that autistic people are sexual offenders.

If we're defining intelligence by IQ score, then I don't know where you're getting this information from or if it's accurate.

I've always heard that the average IQ of serial killers is roughly the same of that of the general population or maybe a bit higher.


Quite a few have IQ's in the superior range or even higher.


This would include Ted Bundy, Lawrence Bittaker, Joel Rifkin, Edmund Kemper, Karla Holmolka, (and likely her partner-in-crime husband Paul Bernardo too) Jeffery Dahmer,
the Zodiac killer, Michael Ross, etc......


There many others who probably would/did score high on IQ tests, but I haven't read anything about their IQ's.

John Wayne Gacy, Dennis Raeder, Leonard Lake/Charles Ng and Andrei Chikatilo are the first that come to mind.

There are also many who were poorly educated and for that reason, would likely perform poorly on IQ tests (at least verbal IQ tests.)


Many of these individuals were probably quite bright even if they would/did perform poorly on IQ tests.


Richard Ramirez is possibly in this category.


In any event....I don't think too many people of below average intelligence could manage to get away with many serial murders at all.

The strongest thing we can do is to unite and to prove to society that we can do better at living by rule of law than the rest of society. Those who would practice bigotry against us are weakened when they are all alone in doing that drive by shooting because they do not like the archatectural style of one of our houses that looks different or when we get up and walk out of that restaurant or theater in protest that does more to embarrass the smoker who lit up than taking out a gun and shooting people. If people get mad because we drive our cars the speed limit that's tough.

I stopped neighbors from trying to run me out of the neighborhood for being "weird" by painting my whole house with glow in the dark paint, which brought televivion cameras from a show called "Real People". They learned that the harder they pushed, the worse it would get and they would be in the news for whatever they did. I broke no laws in rebelling against their culturl tyranny.

I am certain that others have outdone my antics in these sort of things and I would be honored to read of their exploits.

most of those people also had schizophrenia

If you are referring to the serial killers I included in my previous post....you're wrong.

People who have Asperger's are maore vulnerable to coexisting mental disorders particularly Schizophrenia and Social Anxiety Disorder. However, in many respects Asperger's mimics other types of mental disorders and personality disorders such as Bi-polar and Avoidant Personality Disorder. Often times psychiatrists in general who aren't acquainted with Asperger's give the wrong diagnosis and I speak from personal experience as I was diagnosed schizo-affective for 25 years. I can tell you that many times I have felt resentment towards others because of mistreatment but have never felt like acting out in any violent way. There is no conclusive evidence to support that any of these individuals(eg. Ted Kaczynski, Jeff Dahmer, etc.)had Asperger's and I believe is based on pure conjecture by the author of the article "The dark side of Asperger's". Perhaps the author would benefit from some more in depth research such as that which is found on Wikipedia.

Wikipedia is a load of horse sh*t edited by teenagers,most serial killers are NT and many are highly NT like Ted Bundy- highly skilled in body language,eye contact and silly NT chit chat.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But Wikipedia does provide information to others about topics that they would otherwise know nothig about one of those being Asperger's Syndrome. I prefer using a number of sources including Wikipeda support the information I read. One can speculate as to wether or not Ted Bundy is an NT or not it really makes no difference since he is long gone, thankfully.

Theres nothing to speculate about-Bundy was NT-case closed.

Since there was no diagnosis for Ted Bundy as being an AS you are probably correct. I believe psychologists who interviewed him came to the conclusion that he had a sociopathic personality which seems to be consistent with his mannerisms. Hence his ability to gain the trust of some of his unsuspecting victims through the use of charm which most sociopaths seem to possess. Most people who are AS don't have this ability, in fact quite the opposite. Most people with AS like to avoid contact with others because of the negative interactions they have had with NTs in the past. Because people with AS exhibit odd and eccentric behavior they are more commonly victims of NTs ridicule because the NT can't identify with these behavior characteristics.

Thanks-during 45 years of Aspie existence I have noticed this....

Sure. Always willing to do my part to enlighten others about the limited information that I have gathered since being diagnosed in 2008. Age 39 at the time.

My theory is that sociopaths have infiltrated the autistic community and changed the definition to suit their needs. Autistic people are not manipulative by definition.

I remember an aspie group I won't name where I was told if I have feelings I am not on the spectrum; I get the idea doctors are giving kids who kill their cats and exhibit no emotion the wrong diagnoses.