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18 Aug 2012, 8:24 am

Seriously, it sucks when your "syndrome" opens itself up to a billion jokes regarding wordplay with the term "Ass-Burgers". I understand Hans Asperger discovered the syndrome, but what would you think of renaming it



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18 Aug 2012, 10:20 am

I am an Aspie and therefore an autistic. I agree that the term Asperger's Syndrome may not be appropriate and the pronunciation, in English, is hard. I really admire the late Dr. Hans Asperger! And I am proud to be an Aspie (regardless of the painful difficulties, but that's another story). Like you, I find the crass wordplay offensive. I know some find the term 'Aspie' improper as well and prefer 'Aspergian' or 'on the spectrum', etc. I like Aspergian &/or Aspie. However, the general public may not appreciate or understand our usage. As we know, the DSM V has discontinued Asperger's Syndrome - we are now autistic as per the DSM V. 'Syndrome' has other connotations which can be really misleading. I don't consider myself as having a 'syndrome.'

The terminology now is moot and at least subjective. I pronounce Asperger's with a soft 'g' sound, as opposed to the American hard pronunciation. What would you suggest? Ideas? Hmmm.......relevant factoid: Asperger's Syndrome as actually firstly accurately described, prior to Hans Asperger who actually published, by the remarkable female Russian neurologist, Dr Ewa Ssucharewa in 1926. I have had ancestors who were (mis)diagnosed with schizophrenia - one who notably lived his entire life in an institution without speaking at all. Of course, he was not schizophrenic (and evidently even the psychiatrists and others knew) but was classically textbook autistic. At the time in history, the diagnosis of autism did not exist and was instead under the umbrella of schizophrenia. Modern neurology has evolved since. Then Leo Kanner's research described classic autism while Hans Asperger, at the same time in history, described high-functioning autism. But Ewa Ssucharewa was first.

I know, Ssucharewaists! 8) That's the Lab Pet's vote. And I'm no syndrome.

Problem: No idea how to pronounce Ssucharewa.


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18 Aug 2012, 11:01 am

in icd 11 beta its called:
Social reciprocity disorder

link: http://apps.who.int/classifications/icd ... cd%23F84.5



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18 Aug 2012, 11:08 am

purple-hat-with-icecream-and-linux-penguins disorder... 8O


something with purple and penguins :D


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18 Aug 2012, 11:13 am

StevieC wrote:
purple-hat-with-icecream-and-linux-penguins disorder... 8O


something with purple and penguins :D


Well, why not. Ssucharewa's purple penguins or something. :)


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18 Aug 2012, 12:17 pm

WEll, i had an idea for classification based on a number system:

Mild Autism (Asperger's, etc): Type 1 Autism (or A1)

Classic Autism (Much like Temple Grandin): Type 2 Autism (A2)

Severe Autism (unable to communicate, etc): Type 3 Autism (A3)

Then within that a subset indicating severity (from 1-9)

In my case, I'd say I'm either an A1.2 or A1.3. What do you guys think?

But, given our sensory issues, could call it "Hypersensory Distortion," or something along those lines.



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18 Aug 2012, 1:04 pm

DSM-V wii be ranking ASD based in the I-III criteria next year. The additional points system makes sense as there is so much variety within the ASD. Some people stem more deeply or more often than others. Some people are able to willingly go to autism meetup groups, some just can't. For some people, lights and sounds don't bother them that much, for others, bright lights and sudden loud sounds can give them a stroke.



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18 Aug 2012, 1:21 pm

LabPet wrote:
Then Leo Kanner's research described classic autism while Hans Asperger, at the same time in history, described high-functioning autism.


Asperger and Kanner described very similar patients. It wasn't that Asperger described "high functioning" autism while Kanner described "classic autism". One of Kanner's patients did not fit in with the rest of the combination of Asperger's and Kanner's - the rest of all of them, between both of them, were of similar "severity". It was that Kanner described things in English, while Asperger wrote in German.

The people they both described would likely today be called HFA.



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18 Aug 2012, 2:26 pm

I pronounce it
Asp (like the snake) + erger's
Though I mostly use Aspie.



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19 Aug 2012, 1:33 pm

I'd like all of it to change...
Thus we then can all be under the one disorder...
It should be GSD... Gifted Spectrum Disorder.
We can be the Giftistics!


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19 Aug 2012, 5:21 pm

I believe I am correct in saying that Aspergers syndrome is also labelled "Higher Functioning Autism".

If this is so true, why not shorten it to HFA?



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19 Aug 2012, 6:30 pm

mmcool wrote:
in icd 11 beta its called:
Social reciprocity disorder

link: http://apps.who.int/classifications/icd ... cd%23F84.5


Why? There's more to it than just the social aspects.


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19 Aug 2012, 6:48 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
Why? There's more to it than just the social aspects.


Yes. The social deficits are just one symptom cluster.

The repetitive behavior cluster is equally pertinent (need for routine, order; the interest, the lack of imaginative play, and whatnot), and these don't have to be the outcome of the social deficits (one can say it's the other way around too if they think it's due to the social deficits).

ICD has gone an odd way here.



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19 Aug 2012, 7:27 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
mmcool wrote:
in icd 11 beta its called:
Social reciprocity disorder

link: http://apps.who.int/classifications/icd ... cd%23F84.5


Why? There's more to it than just the social aspects.



Definition

Social reciprocity disorder is characterised by persistent impairment in social reciprocity that is not usually accompanied by general intellectual impairment, severe language impairment or epilepsy. The limited ability to engage in reciprocal social interactions substantially constrains the roles the individual is able to take in society. Features of this disorder are manifest in early childhood but the impairing nature of this condition may be more obvious in later childhood, adolescence and adulthood. This category is specified as needing further testing.



Synonyms

asperger's syndrome

Narrower Terms

Autistic psychopathy *
Schizoid disorder of childhood *
autism; psychopathy
childhood type; schizophrenic
schizophrenia, childhood type
schizophrenia, childhood type nos
schizophrenia; syndrome of childhood
schizophrenic syndrome of childhood nos
syndrome; schizophrenic of childhood

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19 Aug 2012, 8:48 pm

^I read that. It's not synonymous with Asperger's.


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19 Aug 2012, 9:55 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
^I read that. It's not synonymous with Asperger's.


ICD-11 says, it is.

Those related terms seem to focus primarily on one thing. Did you notice??
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