Autistic boy beaten up at Wal-Mart

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How many people in the Unites States actually own or possess assault rifles?

I'll give you a hint. Not all that many. And those who own them legally aren't out there committing crimes.

A real assault rifle is capable of firing automatic bursts or fully automatically. If you own or possess an assault rifle in the United States without the property paperwork and taxes, you can spend years in a Federal prison.

There are people who do legally own fully automatic weapons in the United States. As far as I know, there have been only two or three instances of legally owned automatic weapons being used in the commission of a violent crime in the United States in well over fifty years. One of those crimes was committed by a police officer.

As far as I know, private citizens cannot legally obtain modern assault weapons in the United States at all.

What does this have to do with guns?

Rhetorical question, don't answer that.

Perhaps the person who was trying to make this about people in response to your post mentioned the word guns and that set off someone who has a thing for guns. As someone who has tried to disclose my diagnosis and educate people about what autism really is, I, like you, am concerned about what the general public is really thinking. It's sad to see such a huge backlash, especially given that I don't see autism in the shooter. You can be smart, non-social, unable to make eye contact, and have something totally non-related to autism if there are other types of symptoms involved. Did the shooter not disclose these symptoms, or did he even experience these symptoms as a child? Did his parents cover for a diagnosis that they did not want to disclose? Was he simply misdiagnosed because the psychiatrist was incompetent or because certain symptoms didn't appear until he was older? I've heard geneticists are examining Adam's DNA. That is very interesting if true, and I wonder if the findings will be disclosed.

I don't want to stigmatize what he may have had, but if he was misdiagnosed or didn't get proper treatment then that clearly caused serious problems not only for the innocent children who died but for the innocent children who will now be seen as monsters, which will cause other numerous problems. What happened to those children cannot be undone and it is still unbelievable that this kind of thing happens, but we can move in a better direction by getting people who clearly need help the resources they need and supporting them rather than further isolating and stigmatizing them, and not unfairly stigmatizing those who are not even involved with this and already get ill-treated.

Granted, you can take any sort of group and find good apples, bad apples, and so-so apples. But, too many people want to take minority groups and make the bad apples out to be the whole group, and it's concerning.

So, what can we do? I think we have to come out and show them our good side. We have to learn to control some things, and they have to learn to modify some of their behavior and be more tolerant of our non-harmful so-called quirks. Because the way things are going now is just wrong and won't do anyone good in the long-term.

I hope that the mother presses charges.I'm not so much worried about myself physically(6'1 at 290 lbs built like tank) but the idea that a mob would attack a 14 year old kid because he has AS is maddening.The part is that this story wasnt even the worst sentiment expressed on the same webpage.
Read the other stories of people calling people with ASDs mutants and monsters.How some of them say we should all be thrown in jail and how eugenics should be brought back to eliminate us. This isn't just ignorance, it more resembles nazism.

It has to do with aspiebostonian's comments about the "ignorant, gun-loving public." This can be read many ways, but the usual way is to equate liking firearms with ignorance.

There was no need in her post to say anything about firearms at all, but since she did, her post certainly deserved a response.

I agree 100%. I know we live in a litigious society, but unfortunately sometimes negative publicity and lawsuits are the only tools that can be used to keep people and entities they represent from going off the rails and mistreating people who are vulnerable. It should be a last resort and other methods should be tried first, but sometimes those methods fail despite best efforts. I also saw some of the other comments on that webpage. There will always be stupid people hiding behind anonymous masks saying stupid things, but I would be interested to know how representative of the general population some of these comments are or whether they are on the fringes of society.

you can apply for a machine gun license but its almost impossable to get

“I don't see much future for the Americans ... it's a decayed country. And they have their racial problem, and the problem of social inequalities ... my feelings against Americanism are feelings of hatred and deep repugnance ... everything about the behaviour of American society reveals that it's half Judaised, and the other half negrified. How can one expect a State like that to hold together?” - Adolf Hitler

“The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.” - Adolf Hitler

“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.” - Adolf Hitler

Do you mean "the usual way" for someone who is autistic? Because I'm not even sure you read them that way. I think you just misread entirely and then got way too defensive.

Last edited by OrderfromChaos on 29 Dec 2012, 11:15 am, edited 1 time in total.

Nothing new

Leaving aside issues that are being debated in PRR and Godwin's law, I have a question.


Can anyone name which Wal-Mart this incident happened at?


I have concerns about using such an example as a rallying point. A month or so ago, AFF had the same issue, where a very upsetting story was apparently copied from another site. The problem is, there was no paper trail to the story.

There are more than enough things in this world to protest, and if this incident with 18 people is true, than that is something to protest.

What exactly are you trying to say?The quotes actually describe a large portionsAmericans somewhat well(except the first one) but no one I know ever quotes Hitler in response to a question or statement unless they are trying to draw a comparism between the speaker and Nazi ideaology(in my experiance at least).

I was using them to show that large portions of Americans have proven Hitler's quotes to be true. They seem to be pretty relevant to the reactions of many people to the shootings in Connecticut. The first quote can also be applied to people with Asperger's and many other minority groups.

I would disagree with the first quote.Although many Americans are ignorant morons the country has improved in many ways since the 1930s and 1940s.Racism, although still prevelant is looked down upon by the majority of Americans.Although the public goes through cycles of hatred ,The blacks,the Italians,the Irish,The japanese,the chinese ect.Eventually the cultures asimilate and become part of the whole.The problem is that racists always find someone to hate.
But Hitler was wrong about Americans.We were never destroyed because of our differences.We do have a recurrent fascist streak that scares me sometimes(like now) but we never broke apart.
Anyway, I digress, but the point is that this kind of ignorance is more intense than usual.

Oh, this is just truly disgusting. Some NTs are so f*****g ignorant and pathetic.

I would like to know more about the specifics, too, but I wasn't able to find anything else. I would ask the woman who wrote the blog for more info but, too be honest, I'm too shy. It looked as though the mother of the boy in question wanted to keep it quiet for some reason, although that seems extremely counterproductive.