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Da ya..really think a charitable non-profit organization raising about 60 M dollars a year is going to be negatively influenced by a group effort of people on the internet who are already described as not really autistic..in general by at least some of the people who directed the DSM5 effort to get rid of Asperger's Syndrome..in part because they don't see this internet described autism phenomenon as anything seemingly but 'a self-reported fraud'...

Just in my opinion there are no binary choices in life....

Also in my opinion..overall..black and white thinking can be an overall very dangerous attitude..to absorb oneself in...

Simply as it can be so dam restricting overall..for the eventuality of any true will of thought.......

Again in only my opinion....

I don't necessarily think that black and white thinking is an autistic specific thing either...

It's more I think..an issue of conformity..to whatever group may be observed as the herd....as far as i can see about that...

But not me..I'm always gonna make my mind up for myself..based on all the facts I can find...

I don't rey on the herd to make my decision for me..ever..never..ever.....

I remember when you acted so outraged in response to my questioning if you were really autistic because you had a rapid recovery over a period of a few years, and now you turn around and try to suggest that many of the people on this forum are basically participating in a "self-reported fraud."

And you really can't stand it when people criticize Autism Speaks, can you? You're telling people not to do this stuff (and falsely framing it as a purely internet thing). You tried to say this isn't what you do, but here you are going at it just as hard as always.

This from the guy who insists that ASAN and AWN are bad and berates basically everyone for criticizing Autism Speaks because - in your opinion - Autism Speaks is doing the work and we should leave it alone, etc. This is from the guy who says that online discussions have zero bearing on the real world. This is from the guy who constantly characterizes the people on this forum and the people critical of Autism Speaks as being too mild to really be autistic, going so far as to say outright that the people objecting to Autism Speaks are part of a "self-reported fraud" that the DSM-5 changes were made to exclude from the Autism diagnosis.

Dude, you are basically spewing black and white over everything in these threads. Your posts have no nuance. They're just a mix of "You're wrong for opposing Autism Speaks! The organizations you support are bad! You're probably not autistic anyway! And if you are you are so mild you're barely affected!" Until someone calls you on it at which point they become liars and hypocrites because you never said those things, except for all the many times you did.

I am an old autistic woman. I have kids and grandchildren, some autistic, some not. My beautiful and incredible NT children and grandkids have members of the opposite sex falling at their feet, have no difficulties obtaining work,[some of them have head hunters seeking them out] and when they start new jobs are quickly promoted. They have tons of friends. One of my NT grandkids is 16 years old and is being watched by not only college, but NFL recruiters because he is that good at sports.

My autistic kids are every bit as good looking, intelligent, hard- working and kind [actually kinder] young people as my NT ones. But they are bullied horribly and consistently. They can rarely find jobs and if they do they can't keep them They mostly have no friends and my youngest son, also autistic, who endures what the neurologists describe as "the most excruciating pain humanly possible" from another problem is also treated badly.

Until a year or so ago, when an Autism speaks commercial came on, my youngest son would say "See Mom, they don't even have the burns[ what he refers to as the ice pick like pains he has lived with for 7, nearly 8 years] and they have no hope. They are tragedies and they don't even have the burns.. Please get out of denial and help me die."

This is how their ads make my son feel. This is how it makes other kids with autism feel. These ads make parents of autistic children [whether they themselves are autistic or not] feel like the hope is being sucked out of them.[ except for desperate parents believing for a cure] I am sure that these ads are not conducive to helping NT children, parents of NT children, potential employers or neighbors see that autistics are usually awesome people but that they are instead tragedies. Less Thans.

it is never alright to use fear to manipulate others into giving. It is especially horrific when it is done at our peoples expense. And you know one thing that really sucks? When I talk to people about the importance of a huge campaign to encourage acceptance of Autists. When you speak of accomodations, different forms of support,needs for adult autistics, etc. and the person you are speaking to you, nods, and days " I agree. That's why I contribute regularly to "Autism Speaks," and, I hear they're close to a cure now so it's money well spent." AAARGH!

It angers me[but not nearly as much as it distresses me] what a brilliant [evil?] job they have done of pitting NT parents of autistic children against adult and/or higher functioning autistics. We should not be fighting these parents, but working with them. They DO love their kids every bit as much as their NT kids. As far as understanding their kids, well, being autistic does help me understand my kids/grandbabies better, but not nearly as well as I understand them out of the love I have for them. I firmly believe that the division was caused,most likely deliberately, by Autism Speaks.

And oh by the way..my disorder is professionally documented..what about yours dear friend..but i could not care less...as i tell the truth and never lie intentionally.....

Diagnosed like my profile says.

You can claim you tell the truth, but your actions differ. You say you do one thing, but you actually do something different. You object strenuously when your actions are taken at face value, even though you actually did do those things.

Why the hell did I even accidentally read this post?

Aghogday,

I rarely post, usually just read the postings...But, I've followed you for awhile and all you ever seem to do is damage control for Autism Speaks criticisms. You work for AS, right? You're a troll, no? I don't consider your opinions to be either honest or ligitimate. I think you're a fake. Also, I've followed the links to your blogs and find some of the pics posts to be really offensive; particularly the nude picture of the guy with the phone.

@aghogday. i agree with you about who autism speaks does or does not speak but nor AS or ASAN speaks for me.i wish there was something out there for people in the middle.

as far a parents of autistic children who autism speaks.i fear like many disability orgs today they bilk millions of dollars from people with false hopes of a cure.

Yeah..friend i wish there was too..and maybe one day that will happen...