We need to encourage excuse making for Aspies
To the OP the word you're looking for is discrimination and ablism. It's not "excuse making" when you are actually an oppressed class. It's consciousness raising and a realization of the degree of discrimination and bias that we face. And it's good to get it out. So that you can recognize the depth of bias in our society.
So sorry for your struggles, I wish you the best on your recovery!
Everyone is saying its not worse than cancer. Of course not! But can we please also agree that saying that autism is worse than, you know, the suffering people went trough in concentration camps, is also so wrong its barely comprehensible??
I mean, come ON, the cancer comparison struck a nerve with some of you (obviously!) but not the WW2 one??
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I've never had an excuse for self pity. I never even knew I was an Aspie until about a year ago. I am 40 years old.
Everything before that has been doing everything the hard way because no one understood me and had not any mercy for my difficulties.
I had to deal with all the typical problems Aspies have plus no slack or consideration and always being expected to always be normal at all times, and everyone else believing that I am a lazy slacker when I am actually trying my very hardest.
My learning disabilities complicated things. I am an eccentric learner and I have low working memory, and difficulty with verbal style instruction.
39 years of being expected to always fit in at all times and being beat down for any instance that I am not being 100% up to normal par on anything.
What really sickens me is that people on the internet keep telling Aspies to "man up", "be a man" or "grow a pair" and I'm UNABLE to do that due to my hypersensitivity and OCD.
Manning up is impossible due to Asperger's because I'm always obsessed with the fear of pain and I scream like an 8 yr old girl if a flame touches my finger. When I tried to put a heartbeat monitor, I was like "It's rubbing my nipple eww". That's just the way I am.
I have no problem being called a p*ssy, f@ggot, or wuss because I think masculinity is overrated. Guys have the right to be feminine because I'm sick of big men acting like gods and trying to own women and whatever they set their sexist eyes on.
I've seen a horrific post by Rascal77s who says we should smack Asperger children for EVERYTHING, even if try get bullied or stim or have sensory overload, parents should spank. If spanking is to turn boys into men, I'd rather be a flaming homosexual because I'd feel innocent not trying to beat women like a sexist "manning up" freak.
Then again, "man up-ers" are on the decline and I'm happy to hear that. According to Gallup, 70% of young people (18-30) support gay marriage and spanking is dropping among Generation Y. There will always be big sexist men, but they can hate as much as they want because masculinity will hopefully lose popularity.
Manning up is impossible due to Asperger's because I'm always obsessed with the fear of pain and I scream like an 8 yr old girl if a flame touches my finger. When I tried to put a heartbeat monitor, I was like "It's rubbing my nipple eww". That's just the way I am.
I have no problem being called a p*ssy, f@ggot, or wuss because I think masculinity is overrated. Guys have the right to be feminine because I'm sick of big men acting like gods and trying to own women and whatever they set their sexist eyes on.
I've seen a horrific post by Rascal77s who says we should smack Asperger children for EVERYTHING, even if try get bullied or stim or have sensory overload, parents should spank. If spanking is to turn boys into men, I'd rather be a flaming homosexual because I'd feel innocent not trying to beat women like a sexist "manning up" freak.
Then again, "man up-ers" are on the decline and I'm happy to hear that. According to Gallup, 70% of young people (18-30) support gay marriage and spanking is dropping among Generation Y. There will always be big sexist men, but they can hate as much as they want because masculinity will hopefully lose popularity.
I'm not sure if you are on the lower spectrum of Autism or what but you view of the real world is distorted.
This here alone is a sad statement. You would rather act like a little girl than man up? Man women have more balls than you right about now!
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Rascal77's post was being ironic. That flew right over your head. He meant the exact opposite of how you interpreted it.
Try reading his post again: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5043496.html#5043496
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Aspies can't man up huh? Aspies can't grow a pair, you say? How come I did? I'm diagnosed Asperger Syndrome and I was pretty bad off as a child. Nobody knew about AS back then and I had to just deal with it. I had help from a very few friends who could tolerate me and they helped me learn to act normal. I learned how to deal with the world and how to make myself do things I didn't want to do, and now I have a regular, normal life, with a 27 year marriage, 4 kids and a grandbaby.
I also have balls. I also speak up for myself. I'm nobody's damn victim and God help anybody who tries to make me one! Now, your AS may be worse than mine was, and it may be harder for you to learn to deal with the world and life, but with that panty waist attitude you have, just plan on living the rest of your life with your mother and 18 cats and never doing anything.
Go on with your pity party and don't ever, and I mean EVER, try and speak for the entire AS community as a whole. Cause even though I'm a lady, I got bigger balls than many, many NT's do, AS or no. And don't you forget it son.
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Rascal77's post was being ironic. That flew right over your head. He meant the exact opposite of how you interpreted it.
Try reading his post again: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5043496.html#5043496
I've just read that.
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Nothing wrong with a bit of self pity every now and again...having this disorder really can suck, though I would hope you do try to think more positively sometimes, even though its much easier said than done. But yeah I get annoyed when either my being on the spectrum or another one of my mental disorders interferes with my ability to do something and people think I'm just making excuses and need to try harder....or they misunderstand things, like maybe I can't show up for some get together because its just too much, or today I was suppsoed to go to a funeral but I can't because being around so many sad people and not knowing what to say and coming off insensitive makes me nervous and overwhelmed not to mention it brings back memories of another thing in my past...so worried people are going to think I didn't show up because I don't care.
Anyways I say we aspies/autistics deserve some bitching rights....because sometimes it really does suck. But yeah wouldn't want to be babied because ick, but proper accomidations and understanding is nice rather than 'oh quit making excuses.' 'someone somewhere probably has it worse so stop whining' any time you bring up how your condition makes something difficult or prevents you from doing something other people can.
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it might be LFA because someones over analyzing and validating what random people on the internet say?
LFA is a very different presentation of autism, it isnt the catchall for aspies with delusional or obsessive thinking.
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Rascal77's post was being ironic. That flew right over your head. He meant the exact opposite of how you interpreted it.
Try reading his post again: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5043496.html#5043496
It is not unusual for people on the spectrum to misunderstand sarcasm, its interesting how when someone expresses an 'aspie' symptom/trait they get laughed at because ha ha they didn't understand sarcasm, or they miscomprehended something on an autism forum. Either way seems like they are upset over being invalidated and feel like there's too much 'man up' attitude going around which I can see pissing someone off. Or they are a very good troll and I've fallen for it, or I easily fall for them who knows.
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My life is pretty happy now. However, my happiness came from accepting myself as I am and stop trying to please people who would never like me, or to be something I'm not.
So I kind of agree with the OP; people who say we're using autism as an excuse have no idea what they're talking about. We can beat our heads against a brick wall all our lives trying to imitate something we can't be, but I wouldn't call that healthy.
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I still do not necessarily equate "manning up" with acting NT. And I certainly would never equate being your Autistic self with being a ?weak? person.
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