MMS claims to cure autism

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16 Apr 2015, 2:40 pm

I think that this might of interest to people here. A documentary was broadcast on Irish television, about Jim Humble and their MMS solution which claims to cure autism amongst other things? Has anybody here come across them? What do you think?

http://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2015/0 ... 7-04-2015/

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16 Apr 2015, 3:19 pm

Bleach does not cure autism. From the Irish Examiner:

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A number of people who have children with autism have been interviewed by detectives as part of a joint investigation by gardaí and the Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA) into the use of a controversial treatment being promoted in Ireland by an international cult.

The substance, known as Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS), is an industrial-strength bleach which its advocates claim acts as a miracle cure for a number of medical conditions, including autism, asthma, Aids, malaria and ebola.

Fiona O’Leary, an Irish woman who has single-handedly mounted a campaign against a group led by Jim Humble — a former Scientologist and self-styled archbishop of the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing — said there is need for urgent legislation in Ireland to deter parents from subjecting their children to treatment with MMS.

Source: "Parents quizzed over bleach treatment for autism"

This guy gets around ...

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Salesman Jim Humble, a one-time gold prospector from Las Vegas who describes himself as an archbishop of his own church, promotes a super-strength solution - which he says can cure a huge variety of ailments.

Health authorities have previously warned that the product, sold as Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS) “may pose serious health risks” including kidney failure and poisoning.

In 2012 the UK Food Standards Agency (FSA) likened it to "industrial-strength bleach" and warned "when taken as directed it could cause severe nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea."

It reminded local authorities “these products should not be on sale”.

Source: "Calls for bar on salesman promoting bleach to cure autism

This guy seems to hate people with autism so much that he wants to hurt them.

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16 Apr 2015, 3:28 pm

Course it doesn't, I agree with you. I don't support them at all, in fact I think what they are promoting is extremely dangerous.

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16 Apr 2015, 3:29 pm

BoyInGreen wrote:

Course it doesn't, I agree with you. I don't support them at all, in fact I think what they are promoting is extremely dangerous.

Then why didn't you say so in your first post?

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16 Apr 2015, 3:32 pm

OK, point taken, but I thought that the addition of "claims" and my linking to a critical video would have given some indication of where I stand. Still, I take your point.

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17 Apr 2015, 8:51 am

Yes, sadly I've met some in the seedy parts of the internet (youtube).

Basically they think we're all pseudoskeptics, and when you tell them why it's child abuse, a human rights violation and that AS isn't something to cure, they go "but there have been XX children cured of autism! and now have an ATEC score of 10 or below!"

And when you explain away the nonsense, and provide alternatives to the 'they turned into NTs', no amount of reason or evidence will make them see it any other way, they just go back to that phrase like a broken record "but there have been XX children cured of autism! and now have an ATEC score of 10 or below!"

It makes me sick that the authorities seemingly do nothing.

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17 Apr 2015, 8:59 am

Seriously what kinda of dumba** people would think that drinking bleach is a good idea? not to mention industrial strength bleach. Has there ever been a case where ingesting anything with the name "industrial strenght" in it has been a good idea?

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17 Apr 2015, 9:06 am

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The desperate kind. The kind that think AS people are so forgone that death would be a better alternative. They'll also say "it's not bleach" and rattle off some chemicals. Seems like they're in the crazy dehumanization camp, where autism is separate from the person, and that it's only dangerous to "the autism".

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17 Apr 2015, 9:08 am

Moromillas wrote:

Shoggothgoat wrote:

And they call us ret*d.....

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17 Apr 2015, 9:11 am

BoyInGreen wrote:

OK, point taken, but I thought that the addition of "claims" and my linking to a critical video would have given some indication of where I stand. Still, I take your point.

I didn't see any individual opinion in your OP. The closest thing to an opinion came in the phrase "...A documentary was broadcast on Irish television, about Jim Humble and their MMS solution which claims to cure autism amongst other things?" You were clearly describing Humble's opinion, not your own. No need to apologize.

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17 Apr 2015, 1:48 pm

Shoggothgoat wrote:

They think it's Carbon dioxide not bleach. They think the bleach claim is big pharma propaganda.

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18 May 2015, 11:14 pm

News is from January
7 Children Taken from Parents During Search for "Miracle" Treatment Chemical

A Chicago TV station just ran a story about Rivera and MMS
Chicago Woman Offers Controversial "Miracle Treatment"

Off topic a bit: If you are in the Chicago based on her quote in the printed version of the story don't take your child to see Dr. Sharon Hirsch.