Website against Asperger's Syndrome: HeartlessAspergers.com

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05 Feb 2017, 5:29 pm

Have you heard about Nathan Carman who was rescued after eight days adrift at sea? The fishing boat he and his mother were fishing from sank off Rhode Island. His monotone manner when questioned caused authorities to accuse him of a lack of empathy with regard to his mother being lost at sea in the incident.


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05 Feb 2017, 5:37 pm

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Have you heard about Nathan Carman who was rescued after eight days adrift at sea? The fishing boat he and his mother were fishing from sank off Rhode Island. His monotone manner when questioned caused authorities to accuse him of a lack of empathy with regard to his mother being lost at sea in the incident.


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There is more to this story than autism. Another of his relatives was murdered and that crime remains unsolved too. It's an interesting case.



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06 Feb 2017, 2:38 pm

Checked the site out and wish I hadn't. Plain old discrimination in the guise of neat, flowery sentences.


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08 Feb 2017, 7:33 pm

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10 Feb 2017, 3:17 pm

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They're probably a bunch of drama queens with too much time on their hands.


Years ago I came across a site like this, claiming that Aspies care nothing about vital issues, such as protecting the environment, "or anything except their little Aspie selves." It was very juvenile, obviously started by a sibling of someone affected by AS jealous of all the attention devoted to the sibling.



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10 Feb 2017, 5:51 pm

Ugh,I've seen this site before. Pretty nasty stuff. :roll:


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11 Feb 2017, 1:00 pm

Speaking solely from my experience with my son I think that most often its not that people with Aspergers completely lack empathy but rather they have difficulty understanding emotions. I mean a lot of times my son can't even express to me why he is sad or upset so how can he be expected to understand what others might me feeling or why? I have met plenty of people who lack empathy that are considered perfectly normal.



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11 Feb 2017, 1:44 pm

I think that behavior described on the websites can be described in all abusers and narcissist and as*holes. To call those aspie traits or HFA traits, you are saying we are abusive.

Those sort of websites always describe such behavior has such so I don't really need to look at it all to know what it will say because it's all the same negative stuff.


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23 Feb 2017, 8:17 am

I think that the NT who made this "heartlessaspergers.com" is not intellectually qualified to receive any credibility for his/her blatant hate-speech. In fact, the inaccuracy of information presented is a direct attack on the character of anyone diagnosed with ASD (especially "high functioning"). The underlying tone of the arguments presented borders a suggestion of genocide; clearly, this website is designed to inflame and slander people on the spectrum who already have enough difficulty socially. Perhaps the owner of the domain ought to be defendant in massive class action lawsuit for libel/slander and maybe even prosecuted for hate speech?

Come on guys, get creative, what can we do about this?

This person seeks to cause even greater troubles for us, troubles we do not deserve.
Let's show him/her that autistics are not to be trifled with.

oh, and to raise everyone's morale a bit, let's take a look at how science has proven that we are superior to them...

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/arch ... es/406180/



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23 Feb 2017, 8:20 am

For most things we dislike, the best thing we can do is just IGNORE.



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23 Feb 2017, 8:54 am

devilSpawn wrote:
I think that the NT who made this "heartlessaspergers.com" is not intellectually qualified to receive any credibility for his/her blatant hate-speech. In fact, the inaccuracy of information presented is a direct attack on the character of anyone diagnosed with ASD (especially "high functioning"). The underlying tone of the arguments presented borders a suggestion of genocide; clearly, this website is designed to inflame and slander people on the spectrum who already have enough difficulty socially. Perhaps the owner of the domain ought to be defendant in massive class action lawsuit for libel/slander and maybe even prosecuted for hate speech?

Come on guys, get creative, what can we do about this?

This person seeks to cause even greater troubles for us, troubles we do not deserve.
Let's show him/her that autistics are not to be trifled with.

oh, and to raise everyone's morale a bit, let's take a look at how science has proven that we are superior to them...

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/arch ... es/406180/


Well, I hope for her sake that she doesn't say anything on social media, because then she'll find out what will happen to her.



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23 Feb 2017, 3:51 pm

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I think that the NT who made this "heartlessaspergers.com" is not intellectually qualified to receive any credibility for his/her blatant hate-speech. In fact, the inaccuracy of information presented is a direct attack on the character of anyone diagnosed with ASD (especially "high functioning"). The underlying tone of the arguments presented borders a suggestion of genocide; clearly, this website is designed to inflame and slander people on the spectrum who already have enough difficulty socially. Perhaps the owner of the domain ought to be defendant in massive class action lawsuit for libel/slander and maybe even prosecuted for hate speech?

Come on guys, get creative, what can we do about this?

This person seeks to cause even greater troubles for us, troubles we do not deserve.
Let's show him/her that autistics are not to be trifled with.

oh, and to raise everyone's morale a bit, let's take a look at how science has proven that we are superior to them...

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/arch ... es/406180/


I've got an idea. Do you have a blog? One thing you can do in situations like this, just like if there are similar sites espouses racism or misogyny etc, is to use your blog platform to debunk what is written and expose it. That usually gets good results. You don't have to ignore it and stay passive.



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24 Feb 2017, 2:58 pm

I've heard about websites dedicated to hating people with Aspergers (ASD), but never cared to explore and research them. Outside of not having neurotypical norms, people on the spectrum are no different than anybody else. You will find good and bad people with the disorder, just like you will find good and bad people who are neurotypical.



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24 Feb 2017, 11:20 pm

You think this website is a threat but not the neo nazi eugenecists who are growing in prominence over the internet? That site barely has any views compared to many others.

BTW, why do you think nobody has made a similar site for alcoholics, schizophrenics, bipolar, alzheimers, etc?
I have my own answer but you better think about yours.


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25 Feb 2017, 1:16 am

johnnyh wrote:
You think this website is a threat but not the neo nazi eugenecists who are growing in prominence over the internet? That site barely has any views compared to many others.

BTW, why do you think nobody has made a similar site for alcoholics, schizophrenics, bipolar, alzheimers, etc?
I have my own answer but you better think about yours.


That site is exactly the same as those neo nazi sites like storefront. And no, I've never seen any site claiming that schizophrenics an alzheimers are the same psychopaths or why they they should be stigmatised.



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25 Feb 2017, 7:30 am

Jono wrote:
johnnyh wrote:
You think this website is a threat but not the neo nazi eugenecists who are growing in prominence over the internet? That site barely has any views compared to many others.

BTW, why do you think nobody has made a similar site for alcoholics, schizophrenics, bipolar, alzheimers, etc?
I have my own answer but you better think about yours.


That site is exactly the same as those neo nazi sites like storefront. And no, I've never seen any site claiming that schizophrenics an alzheimers are the same psychopaths or why they they should be stigmatised.


The reason why nobody compares schizophrenics or alzheimers to psychopaths is because people here refuse to admit autism is a disorder and choose to not be their illness. One could let it be compared to other disorders like schizophrenia, bipolar, and more, but you all didn't take that option when it was presented. You didn't want person first language and not being your illness.
(And that option by the way is still present.)

But people here say "no, autism is not a disorder or a condition one should not like having! It's a part of who I am truly!" so they went "oh okay, autism is not a mental illness with symptoms! It must be a character defect!".

So the other option of letting it being compared to psychopathy was taken, as you all refuse to dislike your own autism the way schizophrenics dislike their own schizophrenia. There was a time when people with other neurological disorders did the same thing of denying what they had was illness (see "Mad Pride"), but this was before the internet, during the time when ideas had to go through natural selection and either sink or swim.


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I still hold many of my views, but I will tone down my anger and stop being so bigoted and judgmental. I can't possibly know how you see things and will stop thinking I know everything you all think.

-Johnnyh