RFK JR dated view of Autism
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Just a few weeks ago I made a post on Autism Acceptance in the past 2 decades. We made a lot of progress but still have a long way to go. This video further cements that. RFK thinks Autism is more of a burden than a blessing and thinks we will forever be a charity case instead of someone who contributes to society. His statements only applies to a small percentage of people on the spectrum. A lot of autstic people do struggle with finding jobs, but most autstic people are able to communicate, use the potty, and go to school (some even finish high school).
As someone who was non verbal until around age 3 I feel like I defeat the odds of what doctors expected my life to turn out. I faced a lot of challenges in my adult years but it's by God's grace that I'm able to live and function in mainstream society.
Someone posted on my Autism Acceptance thread that Autism is more of a disability to a lot of people which I understand, but I met autstic people with higher support needs than I do find jobs, and go on dates.
I'm not saying that raising autstic children is easy, but I know that we can't be so quick to write off special needs people just because of developmental delays. God has put use Aspies /autstics on the Earth for a reason.
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"Bottom line, the more than 25% of people who have severe autism will never go on a date, write a poem, live independently, or have a job," Kennedy said in an April 18 social media post. "We need to identify the exposures that are causing this epidemic and compensate the families of the injured."
Kennedy later clarified in an appearance on Fox News that he was referring to a specific quarter of those diagnosed with autism.
"There are many kids with autism who are doing well. They’re holding down jobs, they’re getting pay checks, they’re living independently," Kennedy said. "But I was referring specifically to that 25 percent—the group that is nonverbal."
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It is Autism Acceptance Month.
“My autism is not a superpower. It also isn’t some kind of god-forsaken, endless fountain of suffering inflicted on my family. It’s just part of who I am as a person”. - Sara Luterman
Is this just what you already know about:
https://people.com/rfk-jr-claims-people ... s-11717083
or has he now pushed the boat out further still?
We "won't ever pay taxes." I smell hate mongering. And he's a democrat? Sounds about as left wing as Starmer in the UK.
Funny short video about rfk jr depicted as a kind of mafia don and autism
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2FgiYTKh ... Y3RpdmU%3D
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You must FWD to autism news, I'm not opposed to healthy regulations, as an advocate I must say Kennedy is doing great job, may not be so clued up on science but as lawyer getting scientists to replace big pharma profit to make decisions.
The statistics here divide (I hate exact diagnostics but divide ASD 1 vs 3) and determine low functioning rate autism, and exponential growth. I reckon give Kennedy guy a chance this year to see what he can contribute. Other vaccines, I've seeing TB outbreaks, it's so bad here babies vaccinated at birth. But that's vaccines not what put into our food.
Men continuously complaining to get sex on forum, but when Kennedy wants to try fix up there's this defensive resistance.
Mostly on forum is us high functioning but the non-verbal people need a voice to help their families with support, aggressive behaviour.
Despite all my late intelligence, so much held me back from real success, having more friends. I watch my son's and hope life be more more accommodating towards differences.
Yes, autistic people bring better persona, but being healthy is good thing autism or not, I don't see how his moves are that big a problem.
I don't know, I'm not saying he is great but I think he is in a general sense on the right track. I think he holds the overall theory that yes, autism does have a genetic component that can be passed down through the generations. I believe his theory also holds that a myriad of environmental toxics from multiple sources are overwhelming the bodies of all Americans/humans to varying degrees and thus causing through group effort to be behind the large increase in and the severity of autism being diagnosed in America.
I have read articles attributed to him that basically stated that those with a purely genetic form of autism had one thing in common, an above average IQ level. Intellectual development issues were almost unheard of, especially in comparison to the modern day. Today we see more and more of or autistic brethren dealing with developmental, psychological, and physiological disorders and until now we never knew why. Hopefully now the truth can come out. I have read enough of his stuff to believe that while he has his own theories he is willing and open to trusting the science, as long he feels he can trust the research behind the science.
None of us should, quite honestly, trust most of the science from the past decade or so and probably long before. For far too long research has quite honestly been corporations paying big money for favorable, and quite often at least partially faked research in favor of the corporate bottom line financially and legally. Don't think it can happen or does in research? Believe it, especially when there are many , many dollar signs attached that can magically disappear if results are unsatisfactory. I have seen these kinds of lazy researchers, they are everywhere in academia and the private sector. They are able to fake their research because they know the hidden truth about most research, very few people can really understand the statistics behind and supporting their research and most blindly accept as truth that the raw data was really gathered. I have seen first and second hand research that was completely made up in the psychology world and passed on as real. It was always so amazing how their raw data and subsequent results were always so amazingly supportive of their initial hypothesis(sarcasm).
I say give him a chance, he is already starting to have a positive effect. I read that many places across America are voting to remove fluoride from being added to their public water, hopefully eventually getting it removed everywhere. He is getting the food industry to remove and quit using toxic food colorings they have been putting in American market products. He is pushing for open, honest research into autism and its sources and that is a good thing. For too long the truth, whatever that may be in the end, has been knowingly and maliciously suppressed for far too long.
I don't know if anything good will come from anything he does, but the simple reality is we the common person have been treated like cash cows for far too long and at least he seems to actually care. Global corporations have, whether we want to accept it or not, have for many decades colluded to varying degrees to keep at least America in a highly profitable cycle of poor health and illness from birth until death through the generations. Anyone stuck in most healthcare systems see this first hand almost every time they go for medical care. Most times insurance wouldn't cover an expensive procedure or treatment that could cure or save someone, or will at least try, all while happily financing and ever growing myriad of injections they hope you will happily accept without thought.
Will he do or say stupid things? Of course, he is both human and has been known to do and say stupid things in the past. Haven't we all in or past if we are honest with ourselves? Yes for me, on more than one occasion so I cannot judge him or his past, only what he does for me and us now. I think he may in all honesty be the one really positive thing to come in from the new Trump regime.
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I have read articles attributed to him that basically stated that those with a purely genetic form of autism had one thing in common, an above average IQ level. Intellectual development issues were almost unheard of, especially in comparison to the modern day. Today we see more and more of or autistic brethren dealing with developmental, psychological, and physiological disorders and until now we never knew why. Hopefully now the truth can come out. I have read enough of his stuff to believe that while he has his own theories he is willing and open to trusting the science, as long he feels he can trust the research behind the science.
None of us should, quite honestly, trust most of the science from the past decade or so and probably long before. For far too long research has quite honestly been corporations paying big money for favorable, and quite often at least partially faked research in favor of the corporate bottom line financially and legally. Don't think it can happen or does in research? Believe it, especially when there are many , many dollar signs attached that can magically disappear if results are unsatisfactory. I have seen these kinds of lazy researchers, they are everywhere in academia and the private sector. They are able to fake their research because they know the hidden truth about most research, very few people can really understand the statistics behind and supporting their research and most blindly accept as truth that the raw data was really gathered. I have seen first and second hand research that was completely made up in the psychology world and passed on as real. It was always so amazing how their raw data and subsequent results were always so amazingly supportive of their initial hypothesis(sarcasm).
I say give him a chance, he is already starting to have a positive effect. I read that many places across America are voting to remove fluoride from being added to their public water, hopefully eventually getting it removed everywhere. He is getting the food industry to remove and quit using toxic food colorings they have been putting in American market products. He is pushing for open, honest research into autism and its sources and that is a good thing. For too long the truth, whatever that may be in the end, has been knowingly and maliciously suppressed for far too long.
I don't know if anything good will come from anything he does, but the simple reality is we the common person have been treated like cash cows for far too long and at least he seems to actually care. Global corporations have, whether we want to accept it or not, have for many decades colluded to varying degrees to keep at least America in a highly profitable cycle of poor health and illness from birth until death through the generations. Anyone stuck in most healthcare systems see this first hand almost every time they go for medical care. Most times insurance wouldn't cover an expensive procedure or treatment that could cure or save someone, or will at least try, all while happily financing and ever growing myriad of injections they hope you will happily accept without thought.
Will he do or say stupid things? Of course, he is both human and has been known to do and say stupid things in the past. Haven't we all in or past if we are honest with ourselves? Yes for me, on more than one occasion so I cannot judge him or his past, only what he does for me and us now. I think he may in all honesty be the one really positive thing to come in from the new Trump regime.
Fully agree with the post.I can think of a well known UK researcher that meets the description of a fat cat scientist.
You raise something I’ve never heard before, who says the Asperger’s kids of 1945 are the same as today?
Since today’s toxic environment is more extreme that may be having a detrimental effect on those with more fragile genetics.despite a high IQ.
Identifying this may lead the way to new therapies that could help us.
Sometimes it’s the thing you fear the most that you later realised was the best thing that ever happened and sets you free.
We’ll have to see but the US is so divided RFK Jr could invent a cure to cancer and they’ll still hate him, it’s not that they care for autistic people rather just politics.
They only care about the vaccines nothing more every doc or mainstream media report has to have the vaccines don’t cause autism in there.
They are not interested in us at all just themselves and their interests.
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Whether he personally believes this about us or not he is sending a message that we are normal people trapped inside autism due to poisoning, mutants and not in the good X-Men type of way. He views Autism as an epidemic, a crises. That view of Autism like any crises ends up justifying taking shortcuts and risks in order to cure Autism/Rescue the normal person from the daemon Autism. My view of the consequences of his view of Autism becoming the norm again may be paranoid but there is history to back it up.
I noticed the term “vaccine” was not used probably because the blowback to his anti vaxx stance was becoming too much. That could be Trump’s idea or his, it does not matter. The word medicines was used which in my view is a way of saying vaccines without literally saying the word vaccines.
In the last few days he been trying to separate Autism into the crises kind and the not so bad kind. He even amended the statement that there was no autism when he grew up(which is when I grew up) to there was Aspergers around. Well there likely was the “crises” kind of autism around but we did not see them because they were misdiagnosed, locked up in an institution, or in the attic(Most neighborhoods had a “haunted” house), or dead. Beyond the last sentence on the surface there is nothing wrong, is not Aspergers a politically incorrect way of saying low support needs? Yes it is. What that does not take into account is many who present as level one are a crises or trigger as presenting as level three. It is a way of divide and conquer by exploiting the existing real disagreements within the Autism community. It paints those of us who have the ability to disagree on a outlet like this as selfish, entitled bastards who should shut up, try harder and stop getting in the way of people who actually need help.
The emphasis on environmental poisons means that factors like technology that ret*ds the learning of social skills, and more sensory bombardment that makes people present as more autistic will not be looked at. If we are going to find the cause of autism by September no need to put resources into finding ways to help autistics now, right?(sarcasm)
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It is Autism Acceptance Month.
“My autism is not a superpower. It also isn’t some kind of god-forsaken, endless fountain of suffering inflicted on my family. It’s just part of who I am as a person”. - Sara Luterman
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I noticed the term “vaccine” was not used probably because the blowback to his anti vaxx stance was becoming too much. That could be Trump’s idea or his, it does not matter. The word medicines was used which in my view is a way of saying vaccines without literally saying the word vaccines.
In the last few days he been trying to separate Autism into the crises kind and the not so bad kind. He even amended the statement that there was no autism when he grew up(which is when I grew up) to there was Aspergers around. Well there likely was the “crises” kind of autism around but we did not see them because they were misdiagnosed, locked up in an institution, or in the attic(Most neighborhoods had a “haunted” house), or dead. Beyond the last sentence on the surface there is nothing wrong, is not Aspergers a politically incorrect way of saying low support needs? Yes it is. What that does not take into account is many who present as level one are a crises or trigger as presenting as level three. It is a way of divide and conquer by exploiting the existing real disagreements within the Autism community. It paints those of us who have the ability to disagree on a outlet like this as selfish, entitled bastards who should shut up, try harder and stop getting in the way of people who actually need help.
The emphasis on environmental poisons means that factors like technology that ret*ds the learning of social skills, and more sensory bombardment that makes people present as more autistic will not looked at. If we are going to find the cause of autism by September no need to put resources into finding ways to help autistics now, right?(sarcasm)
The thing is he is not responsible for the DSMV and the merging of profound autism leaving people with an IQ of 30 and unable to use a toilet alone with Asperger’s and possibly those with same symptoms as Ellon Musk and an attention seeking celeb.
Any government is going to be concerned if at face value they see something that is causing disability in a large percentage of the next generation rising sharply for whatever reason.
An intelligent solution for ND advocates would be to campaign for a proper re- writing of the DSM taking account of people’s needs and the separation of the seriously disabled from those just different.
Sadly most are only interested in a puzzle logo and a 15 year old autism speaks ad instead.
So what can anyone do?
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RFK will put the spotlight on Austism and make it much more likely that people will Google the subject or look at YouTube videos to find out more about it.
Perhaps someone could generate new and useful content in time for people to see it? When the final report comes out.
People tend to immediately discount old content in favor of new, no matter how good the old content.
If we are lucky good content may go "viral" like the ALS ice bucket challenge.
The "Call Me Maybe" video with 1.5Billion hits was put together with hardly any money.
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Any government is going to be concerned if at face value they see something that is causing disability in a large percentage of the next generation rising sharply for whatever reason.
An intelligent solution for ND advocates would be to campaign for a proper re- writing of the DSM taking account of people’s needs and the separation of the seriously disabled from those just different.
Sadly most are only interested in a puzzle logo and a 15 year old autism speaks ad instead.
So what can anyone do?
“Just different” should not be in the DSM as the DSM is based on the medical model. There was a term that covered autistic traits but not enough to be diagnosed “Broad Autism Phenotype” but that term was confusing and a term that lay people never heard of. Indo not see the DSM changing anytime soon. When Asperger’s was subsumed it was such a controversy that why would anyone want to deal with that again?
“Just Different” is a red herring. Most people here and at ASAN and other ND movement advocacy groups have not said that in years. What is being said is do not stigmatize them(RFK) and accommodate them.
The ironic thing is that Musk has never weighed in on the topic. These purity test people are demanding everybody use Autism a term coined by an influential eugenicist and are often doing it on Musk’s platform(SMH).
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DSM 5: Autism Spectrum Disorder, DSM IV: Aspergers Moderate Severity
It is Autism Acceptance Month.
“My autism is not a superpower. It also isn’t some kind of god-forsaken, endless fountain of suffering inflicted on my family. It’s just part of who I am as a person”. - Sara Luterman
Even though several self advocates are speaking up, I am finding some backlash by long term caregivers who are picking on them. Although they are frustrated, I feel like they are acting very entitled. While I hear where they are coming from, I king of feel like it is not our fault that we have lower support needs.
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Any government is going to be concerned if at face value they see something that is causing disability in a large percentage of the next generation rising sharply for whatever reason.
An intelligent solution for ND advocates would be to campaign for a proper re- writing of the DSM taking account of people’s needs and the separation of the seriously disabled from those just different.
Sadly most are only interested in a puzzle logo and a 15 year old autism speaks ad instead.
So what can anyone do?
Here are some suggestions we can try out at first to see what happens. After that, we can reconvene to come up with adjustments or new ideas.
1. Improve work conditions so that it is more enjoyable and sought after as an expression of oneself and a contribution to society rather than an absolute necessary requirement to survive at cost of our dignity.
2. Remove the 40-hr work week requirement for full-time and replace with a system that allows people to work whatever schedule suits both parties best.
3. Reform healthcare so that basic care is not linked to employment. Everyone should have access to standard care regardless of their job. If someone wants the latest medical technology and fancy brand name pills, then that's something else.
4. Make re-applying for disability benefits a much smoother system so that people on disability benefits are encouraged to try working when they are doing better knowing they can return to disability benefits when needed without fear or hassle.
5. Work with universities, local governments, and non-profits orgs to develop autism-friendly policy and work places so that autistic people are more likely to flourish in work environments.
6. Establish supportive workplaces with jobs that individuals with limitations across the spectrum can complete (any jobs, idc if it's putting "Made in USA" stickers on products). Even if they are not providing the best profits, they are still contributing and that alone reduces dependence on benefits elsewhere.
I think that would be a good start, but it seems like a lot of change to implement. We're very slow when things are not urgent. If a major war like between the West and China or Russia kicks off and we survive it, we might see some impressive changes like during WWII.
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