Gov concedes vaccine-autism link in federal court

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kir ... 88323.html

It's best not to trust anything written by David Kirby.

It is interesting to note that whenever a question of fact is raised in the author's "analysis", it is not answered, but rather countered with another question, as if all questions, like all men, were created equal. It would appear that rather than take the time to truly analyze the significant questions raised by this incident, and seek perhaps to answer one or two of them, the author found it simpler instead to leave the telephone alone, and write his column without reference to independent subject experts.

Ergo, I am forced to take this column, like most op-ed pieces, with a rather largish grain of salt...

A concession in a court case does not prove anything.

Please do not confuse the federal rules of civil procedure with the scientific method.

Love your avatar, twosheds!

Oh, another of these guys...I'm so sick of these people, and I have to say something.

Okay, please allow me to reiterate my position on this subject:

My skepticism toward the mercury poisoning theory is not my premise for believing that homeopathic medicine is complete bullhockey.

My premise for believing that homeopathic medicine is bullhockey is that it actually is a load of bullhockey. It's criminal rubbish. It's snake-oil. It's CRAP.

Furthermore, I do not reject the possibility that mercury poisoning from vaccination is possible. I do not yet have sufficient background in biochemistry to weigh in on this subject, particularly as any kind of authority.

What you are doing is not defending the hypothesis that mercury poisoning could increase one's risk of developing autism. If you are going to say anything of the sort, you are an outright liar and ought to be completely ashamed of yourself.

I will tell you what you are doing:

You are attempting to use this hypothesis as a premise on which to deny that autism is generally genetically inherited. You are using this to stock the hopes of guilt-ridden parents who feel threatened by the possibility that something intrinsically "wrong" with themselves could be responsible for the distress endured by their children. Parents of autistic children do go through these feelings. I endured a lifetime of abuse from my mother, for example, because she has always held me completely to blame for these gnawing feelings within herself. Unfortunately, she was too weak to accept me as I was born to her, and I was, for my entire life, treated as a sociopathic brat. If she was in the least dissatisfied with my behavior, whether I was enduring a meltdown or a bad reaction to one of the medications perscribed to me, I was punished with the same cruelty that an irresponsible parent would punish any misbehaving child, and my life was Hell. Right now, however, my anger is shifting from her, for merely being weak, to you, for being an opportunistic coward.

You know that these parents would believe anything in the world in order to clear their conscience. You know that many of them would rush to embrace your homeopathic remedies if you came offering absolution.

I hate you with every bit of venom that I hate unscrupulous vegans who would peddle lies in order to propagandize their lifestyle.

You are the type of person who would take advantage of a weak, guilt-ridden woman like the person who gave birth to me.

You would use her.

As a tool for your own ends.

I hate you. I hate you with everything in my body.

Because, in the end, I know that I don't really hate my mother for her crimes against me. I hurt for her, and I hate you because you are another person who would have hurt her if you'd had a chance to get your filthy claws into her.

Do not take advantage of desperate people. It is wrong.

I think the mercury autism link is malarchy.

Personally, if there is any relation to vaccines, I believe it has to do with the fact your stabbing kids with needles. Seriously, parents underestimate how tramautic a needle can be. I'm 21 and I still can't be comfortable standing near someone with a sharp object. I used to be really bad and couldn't even be in the same room as people with sharp objects unless I had like, the utmost amount of trust in them.

I mean imagine you take a hypersensitive kid to a doctor. The parents treat the kid all nice, sweetly, give the kid a treat or something to distract them. Put them in this really uncomfortable peculiar place and then forcibly inflict like the greatest pain they have probably ever felt up to that point in their life for reasons they can't even understand, or would probably not even agree with if they could. That would be some seriously traumatizing stuff there. I could totally understand how a kid could zone out after that and lose much trust in the world after that.

I've never been afraid of needles, hehehe. I always liked to watch!

There is a least one case that links Autism to the triple vaccine (MMR).

There was a normal girl that had the vaccine and cried for a week.

She is 30 now severly autistic. (still wearing dipers)

The doctors told the family that it was the vaccines wrongdoing but they were just unlucky.

See there was a faulty/contaminated stock of that vaccine on the market that somehow passed control.

But the vaccine itself was safe.

As a farmacist I find the "faulty but passed the controll" story quite far fetched.

If there was a stock of faulty vaccines on the market there should be similar cases.

I am personally aware of only one though.

My older two sons have Asperger's, genetically inherited.

My 3rd son just had a booster vaccination last week.

Vaccinations causing autism ..... hysteria!


Helen

Griff, please refrain from name-calling on these forums.

I am not a scientist. I don't know what causes autism. I have posted numerous news articles reporting no link between vaccines and autism. I have looked for news articles from mainstream organizations presenting the other point of view and not found one until now. I'm disappointed I didn't find it first.

If you read the article carefully, the government has not conceded a direct link between vaccines and autism. They have conceded that, "the child had a pre-existing mitochondrial disorder that was "aggravated" by her shots, and which ultimately resulted in an ASD diagnosis," and that compensation was appropriate.

This is a forum for discussion of issues. Zendell has repeatedly insisted that there is a link between vaccines and autism. I have never told him that he was wrong. I have only told him that his was the minority view and that the tide was moving against him.

If you believe that anybody who disagrees with you is just wrong or worse, stupid, then there is no place for you on this forum. There are other autism forums on the web which cater to people who feel this way.