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30 Jul 2011, 2:31 am

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All businesses technically are and I also produce sales tax revenue for the state of California when products sell. Technically speaking I use funding for whatever I want to do to create more tax revenue and further self-sufficiency potentials. Major corporations depending on which are tax-payer subsidized directly or indirectly.

Yes propped up much in the same fashion other businesses are and while doing so utilizing that funding to when possible create avenues of independence instead of program dependency. It's all part of the inter-independence of one another but I believe I've done so and have a strategy to further provide benefit to the economy in my own way with funding directly. That to also assure community inclusion is better protected where I live because if budgets go down further then candle money can be used to then subsidize the social services program as a revenue source.


Keep telling yourself that but it is obviously no wonder you can't sleep at night.


Leave Nathan

He is obviously planning to turn this site into astroturf so he can argue with himself.



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30 Jul 2011, 2:35 am

:arrow: :D


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30 Jul 2011, 2:50 am

I was preoccupied. Anyways I would really enjoy for this debate to go offline. Online here is senseless because it would seem those proud of autism or rather some seem to be are some of the most intolerant and hypocritical people I've met. These true colors are either made up to make pride itself look bad or represent the true intents of some individuals that happen to be pride advocates.

I won't apologize for trying to work when I could just be using social services to get out into the community for fun. This is part of the self-determination agenda government has spent money on to make myself and other determined. To make people with disabilities determined to work. It's difficult to imagine some kinds of haters think I am lazy and yet another kind of hater does not like me working. Under the law I can do what I'm doing and a lawyer paid for by the state of California said so and so did other advocates.

If you want to make it into a conspiracy to remove freedoms yet seek to remove my and others freedoms to work that is hypocritical. My belief is pride if these few individuals represent it are showing the true colors of the agenda. To make people with disabilities fearful to adapt and to destroy what little facilitated hope there is by calling it a kind of bigotry and pity. Yet they offer no solutions.

Take it offline with me in the media for proper public opinion.


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30 Jul 2011, 2:54 am

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I got to go out and earn a crust now.

I can see you guys have got issues and just winding each other up. This is a shame because you
seem to have potentials to do very positive things whatever routes you choose.

You all got your fair share of somehting different, I think.

Have a good day.

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30 Jul 2011, 6:01 am

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Aspie48, I'm not going to knock you because I personally believe eveyone is free to chosse their own evolutionary strategy , and being the mildly socipathic guy I am I believe that is what everyone else is doing and a lot of what is spoken, probably a lot of what I say myself, is self delusional BS , ie what most of us call comfort zone and social politeness to others.

Now here's our problem, in Euorope, mad guy goes on rampage with a gun. You and me we're not going to go on a rampage , I know that and I think you know that. Already the press are looking to catagorize this guy, so when I read today's headline, his lawyer is using a significant phrase to give out a message, he doesn't want to use it for sure, so he's doing it the NT way and making a 50-50 . You know what he said, "Lacks Emapthy"

So in the UK we have a population, most of which can't calculate the price of fuel from litres to gallons nor can they work out the price of chicken per 100g . So when they are told he lacks empathy and , you know who else around here lacks empathy-what conclusion are theye going to come to ? Huh? are they going to rush out and buy Simon Baron Cohen's examination of empathy and spend a week cross referncing it ? No they are going to use their lazy brains and think Aspies lack empathy, Aspies are 'dangerous, then they'll dip into a box of fries and watch a programme about cooking, but the message will be in their heads.
So then we got a whole bunch of negative crap in a crapstorm going on. Then it get so much better. Because some press guy comes here , finds your guys banging on about supremacy and this gets published in support of the sudden anti-aspie surge of bald ape troupe agression towards outsiders and it gets worse.

Honestly, if you want to take over the planet fine it's your choice , I'm not going to judge you on the morality of it because at this level there isn't any. But spare a thought for what happens to all of us in Europe , yeh ,when this kind of stuff ( Aspe Supreme take over bid) gets flashed over the headlines and we end up getting tagged by the security forces . That's like not suprecisism is it , it's another dimension of opression. My guess is if they do this you guys will get a free vist to a secutity forces Disneyland for a week and get chance to go surfing on dry land.

If you want to take over the planet , do it quietly , go and read some cognitive research and
try and try and figure out how to help us all evolve . Read Konard Lorenz , for a starter and look at his biography of the fun time he had as an accademic in a supremicist society and the conclusions he came to. The path is laid out, no one's put it all together yet.

Don't poke the bald ape.

Meme.


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Where in the UK are you from?

You don't sound English more like a seppo?



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30 Jul 2011, 1:10 pm

I do not resemble a septic tank. Please state the reason for asking me why I might.



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30 Jul 2011, 1:16 pm

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I do not resemble a septic tank. Please state the reason for asking me why I might.

lol



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30 Jul 2011, 1:23 pm

Only through self-righteous unrealistic egotism can we fight off the barbaric NT horde whilst not dealing with the facts of life, such as many of us still being dependent on the somewhat misguided charity of NTs!
most of our successful kind being directly woven into the political, social and economic fabric!
That NTs represent an obvious economic opportunity being a vast market!
and also whilst trying to ham it up with our heart-poundingly selfish rhetoric that forgets even the basics of understanding that huge groups of people don't think the same!



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30 Jul 2011, 1:26 pm

The red coats got their stank kicked long ago. I'll be damned if my organizations public policy and attacks from those such individuals in my and others liberty will be determined by them in any persuasion of freedom. Independence from their dictatorial persecution and crumble muffins was won long ago and then their was Abe, Kennedy and also Reagan.

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30 Jul 2011, 1:28 pm

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Only through self-righteous unrealistic egotism can we fight off the barbaric NT horde whilst not dealing with the facts of life, such as many of us still being dependent on the somewhat misguided charity of NTs!
most of our successful kind being directly woven into the political, social and economic fabric!
That NTs represent an obvious economic opportunity being a vast market!
and also whilst trying to ham it up with our heart-poundingly selfish rhetoric that forgets even the basics of understanding that huge groups of people don't think the same!


Most of the time there is no "we" in autism politics.


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30 Jul 2011, 2:28 pm

Aspie 48 :)

" I don't believe a word of what you just said."

"Not a word?" asked the gunner.

" Nope ,not a word, " replied the Abrahams M1.

"Why ?"

" Because I'm a skeptic tank."



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30 Jul 2011, 3:33 pm

ci wrote:
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Only through self-righteous unrealistic egotism can we fight off the barbaric NT horde whilst not dealing with the facts of life, such as many of us still being dependent on the somewhat misguided charity of NTs!
most of our successful kind being directly woven into the political, social and economic fabric!
That NTs represent an obvious economic opportunity being a vast market!
and also whilst trying to ham it up with our heart-poundingly selfish rhetoric that forgets even the basics of understanding that huge groups of people don't think the same!


Most of the time there is no "we" in autism politics.


That was sort of the point.



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30 Jul 2011, 5:21 pm

Seeing how some neurotypical oppressors love to discriminate against autistics by getting us fired off of jobs I am wondering if it would be unfair to consider the neurotypicals who actually do indeed oppress us as mentally ill individuals.



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30 Jul 2011, 7:12 pm

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Seeing how some neurotypical oppressors love to discriminate against autistics by getting us fired off of jobs I am wondering if it would be unfair to consider the neurotypicals who actually do indeed oppress us as mentally ill individuals.


If you were doing a good job, they were likely not being fair and accepting your differences. There are many people out there that happily accept the addition of a dedicated worker with autistic traits to their workforce; it sound like you haven't found a place like this, but they do exist. No they are not likely mentally ill, just not accepting of differences.

But, it certainly isn't confined to the realm of autism. There are a thousand different differences some accepted some not that could lead to termination on a job, where the employee has no rights to employment. It could even be that you are doing your job too well, and it intimidates the supervisor.



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30 Jul 2011, 8:43 pm

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androbot2084 wrote:
Seeing how some neurotypical oppressors love to discriminate against autistics by getting us fired off of jobs I am wondering if it would be unfair to consider the neurotypicals who actually do indeed oppress us as mentally ill individuals.


If you were doing a good job, they were likely not being fair and accepting your differences. There are many people out there that happily accept the addition of a dedicated worker with autistic traits to their workforce; it sound like you haven't found a place like this, but they do exist. No they are not likely mentally ill, just not accepting of differences.

But, it certainly isn't confined to the realm of autism. There are a thousand different differences some accepted some not that could lead to termination on a job, where the employee has no rights to employment. It could even be that you are doing your job too well, and it intimidates the supervisor.

well a lot of people just like everybody to be the same, its a fact of life. This philosophy of mine is based on facts of life like this one. it would be nice if everyone was cool and understanding but they ain't.



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30 Jul 2011, 9:21 pm

Well ultimately saying your superior to others can be insulting to others. Yet this likely originated because you were deemed inferior due to disability but that was to help. So yes I do understand I find it uninteresting in my own life because I can understand it quite simply. It's just not interesting the typical and atypical ego related complexes at times. That's why I am not so very interested in random socialization or typical functions of interest to others in part when applicable. I never personally cared about cool but strictly certain interest. To me cool was not very interesting.


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