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29 Apr 2008, 8:31 am

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Forget it, you obviously are just immature and just think that your way is the only way to live. You won't be hearing from me any more...


Perfect example of pseudoscientific thinking, making up rationalizations in order to ignore people who disagree with you. Marxists, psychoanalysts, and astrologers do this all the time


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29 Apr 2008, 1:46 pm

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the label "indigo" child is nonesense. Child act this way as a result of modern western society's values. Can these childern supposely be found in the third world in equal numbers? No, since they have to woory about eating that day, or surviving war zones. Only child with all their worldly desires given to them, and a overheighted feeling of their value to the world, can "worry" about empathy and feelings in this pure new-age nonesensical way. this is all just a modern twist to religion in my opinion. Also, the label gives childern and their parents a reason to believe they are "special" in a good way(which they usually are not).


I agree with you. Completely. Just imagine if some (ancient) people hadn't had the presence of mind to come up with farming and food storage, we wouldn't have been able to apply our mind to nonsensical stuff like cities, sewage, plumbing, electricity, guns, swords, clothing, industrializing stuff etc etc etc etc etc etc. And then these special kids wouldn't be considered indigo.

Of course, the 3rd world child doesn't care about all that.

And we're all special, every human being is an individual who deserves attention to develope themselves and be the best most specialist human being they can. (said one of my weird-a** teachers a long time ago)

(sarcasm). But seriously, I agree w/you.



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29 Apr 2008, 1:46 pm

I have a great deal of compassion for people that suffer. However, I rarely worry. It is not that I do not care about them, but I have difficulty caring for them.


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29 Apr 2008, 2:45 pm

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Don't confuse care and compassion with empathy; ASDs have an impairment in empathy, from none at all to a delay in feeling it for example.


I'm extremely empathetic. So not all with ASD lack empathy; nothing is clear-cut in this strange wee syndrome of ours.


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29 Apr 2008, 2:46 pm

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I'm just glad that there are some questions science can't answer.

Who am I?
Why am I here ?
Where did I come from?
Where am I going?
Where is here?
Why am I self aware?
Are we all connected in some way or am I alone?
What is the half of my mind I can't see thinking?

Conventional science wasn't always so steady on its feet
The west got most of its science from Islamic cultures anyway
So give people striving for enlightenment through new ideas a break
And the Esoteric is just science we haven't worked out yet anyway.



Hear, hear.


As for Reiki... it's a briliant method. Love it. Learning it too! :D


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29 Apr 2008, 6:58 pm

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I was told in the past empathy simply meant you can relate to someone's situation because you have been there too. Is that not what empathy means?


That's sympathy. Empathy is kinda like a lie, but with feelings instead of words, i.e., you feel the emotional state of another, even though you haven't walked in their shoes.

People with ASDs have difficulty in putting themselves in the shoes of others, from not at all to an impaired amount of such.


I agree with the delay in feeling it part, for my case in example. It hits me later than most people.



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30 Apr 2008, 5:00 am

LeKiwi wrote:
Danielismyname wrote:
Don't confuse care and compassion with empathy; ASDs have an impairment in empathy, from none at all to a delay in feeling it for example.


I'm extremely empathetic. So not all with ASD lack empathy; nothing is clear-cut in this strange wee syndrome of ours.


Me too. Though I've found my empathy is specific, if I think someone is stupid for feeling a certain way I won't empathise. Like for example, I don't get children who scream and cry when they are dropped off at daycare. I never did that, so I don't get it. You're just at daycare stupid child, mommy will come back, get over it!! ! I have no empathy for them they just hurt my ears.

But yes, nothing is clear cut and it seems that one person might have empathy but bad eye contact. One has good eye contact but no imagination. And so on and so on...



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04 May 2008, 4:21 am

these new terms are used (by satan :twisted: ) in order to get aspies to believe that they have some kind of "special power" when really it is only the fact that god is very much, on their side
all the times that i could see someones past or that someone is not who they say they are it is because god wanted me to see that
all people have a calling from god (whether christian or not). he made everybody with a purpose, i just believe he made aspies this way because our minds can easier handle this thought process



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04 May 2008, 4:28 am

[quote="catspurr"][quote="history_of_psychiatry"]According to some new-age theorists and psychics, "indigo children" represent the new wave of human developement. They say these people usually have a higher sense of emotion, higher sense of empathey and intuition, sense of spirituality, sense of insatiable (sic) curiosity, and so on. I've read places that many people labeled as ADD or Asperger may really be indigo. They say that aspies have a lack of empathy, but that's not true. Narcissists lack empathy. Aspies (depending on the aspie) care about other genuinely. They may just have a hard time applying their emotions to the exact social situation. For instance, an aspie may say something to you that you find hurtful even though the aspie didn't mean it to be hurtful. When the aspie realizes he hurt your feelings, he may feel truly sorry. A narcissist doesn't really give a sh** whether or not he hurts you. Anyway, here are some articles on "indigo children". Tell me what you think.

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What you just explained (didn't click on links yet) describes me well. I do get tired of people acting as though aspies have no humor and lack empathy. I've told jokes alot to where others did not get it and got angry with me.[/quote]
:x i get the same thing, i believe that it is because of the way aspies tell the jokes instead of the fact that they are not funny
:idea: next time you tell a joke that you want "normal" people to understand just make them so that even a dumba$$ could understand them and there you go
:idea: also i beleive aspies are more "visual" comedians than "audible" comedians



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04 May 2008, 4:52 am

yes...
in my dreams ive been told that i am the next step in evolution by a godlike being...

In 2012, they say the worlds is going to end and the indigo children will survive.

i havent had any psychic experiences, but i can draw amazing mandalas without being taught how.

that is really spooky. 8O


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04 May 2008, 6:27 am

2012 is not meant to be the end of the world - it's the end of the Mayan calendar, not because the world will end but because they believed around the end of December that year mankind would undergo some kind of psychic transformation and no longer NEED the calendar; there'd just be a shift in consciousness of sorts. It doesn't say anything about the end of the world anywhere... so don't panic people, whether you believe in it or not. :P


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04 May 2008, 10:32 am

I don't really believe in auras, but I'm a synesthete and I "percieve" people as colors. It's just a vibe I get from them when meeting them, and often it tells some important things about their personalities. It's much more of a mental thing than a physical one. I'm just trying to classify people in any way I can, so don't automatically think I'm a lunatic, okay?

For Example:

Violet: People who come across as having violet personalities are sarcastic, witty, artistic, and often pessimists.
Green: People of the green variety are usually musical, earth-oriented people with open minds.
Gold: Gold people are usually writers, esoteric, and also very earthy.
Light Blue: Treacherous--beware!
Magenta: Magenta people love to party, have fun, and socialize.

Oddly enough, I have never met a person who came across to me as an Indigo.



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04 May 2008, 12:50 pm

I'm not a synaesthete but I do see auras of light around people, which I just assume is their EM field (did post about this earlier in the thread... not exactly what I'd consider anything 'airy-fairy' or 'spooky' or 'esoteric' or anything) but I've never seen anyone truly indigo either, because nobody ever has a colour field that dark around them... most people are bright yellow, gold, green, blue, and occasionally orangey. I've only once seen someone who had a black field and I ran out of the shop and down the road I was so scared! :lol:


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04 May 2008, 4:40 pm

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Perfect example of pseudoscientific thinking, making up rationalizations in order to ignore people who disagree with you. Marxists, psychoanalysts, and astrologers do this all the time


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04 May 2008, 5:57 pm

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Next step in evolution? Psychic abilities?

I'm a little skeptic.


Tell me about it. People who talk about "next steps" in evolution clearly don't know how evolution works, namely: nonlinearly and slowly.

As for psychic abilities, it'd be nice if they could actually demonstrate them consistently, but no one has been successful so far. As far as anyone can tell in any controlled trials, if such a thing as ESP exists, its effects must be so subtle and statistically negligible as to make it useless. But most people have an easier time believing anecdotal evidence than experimental because the former is more accessible to them.



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04 May 2008, 6:06 pm

Gahh, my mother is psychic, it drives me nuts. Sneaking in at 4am... I think I'm safe... tiptoe round the corner... walk into the kitchen... and she's sitting there making me a cup of tea and asking how the night was! Something big happens, I think I can hide it and get away with it, so she rings and asks what happened! Then our conversations just get so stupid with us saying the same thing at the same time we might as well not bother with toll calls... It's kinda funny really. Mother's intuition gone mad. :lol:


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