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25 Feb 2008, 10:53 pm

Thank you, nominalist, for the clarification. Much appreciated!


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25 Feb 2008, 10:55 pm

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I saw Hitler on the Wikipedia list of people speculated to have had Asperger's.


Hilter was known to be very charismatic and good with people. If he was speculated to have had Asperger's, that specualtion is far off, IMO.


Agreed, Hitler was a sociopath, IMO, nothing more. I wonder why there always seems to be a confusion between the two conditions (AS & sociopathy)? Lack of outward emotion is really the only obvious similarity. Hitler displayed emotion quite well (whether it was genuine or not is up for debate).


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25 Feb 2008, 11:06 pm

Theres a dark side to nt's as well.a few psycho morons can't possibly speak for us as a whole.


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25 Feb 2008, 11:11 pm

Rainstorm5 wrote:
SilverProteus wrote:
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I saw Hitler on the Wikipedia list of people speculated to have had Asperger's.


Hilter was known to be very charismatic and good with people. If he was speculated to have had Asperger's, that specualtion is far off, IMO.


Agreed, Hitler was a sociopath, IMO, nothing more. I wonder why there always seems to be a confusion between the two conditions (AS & sociopathy)? Lack of outward emotion is really the only obvious similarity. Hitler displayed emotion quite well (whether it was genuine or not is up for debate).


If it wasn't for Hitler's reign in Austria Hans Asperger would have publicized the syndrome, but because of racial and disabled division in the states it would still be the wrong time.


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26 Feb 2008, 8:59 am

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Thank you, nominalist, for the clarification. Much appreciated!


You're welcome.


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26 Feb 2008, 12:42 pm

Sounds like scare tactics to me.

Studies have found that Aspies are more likely to be the VICTIMS of a crime than anything else.

Sometimes I have to seriously wonder about some professionals. I think sometimes even they are scared of people with AS mainly on account of the fact that we, by nature, call to question how they judge other people, and wether or not it's fair.

For some reason, this makes me think of how blacks were treated, and how some people still talk about homosexuals.

Anything that's different, in this mind set, is dangerous and needs to be avoided.



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27 Feb 2008, 12:02 am

morning_after wrote:
Sounds like scare tactics to me.

Studies have found that Aspies are more likely to be the VICTIMS of a crime than anything else.

Sometimes I have to seriously wonder about some professionals. I think sometimes even they are scared of people with AS mainly on account of the fact that we, by nature, call to question how they judge other people, and wether or not it's fair.

For some reason, this makes me think of how blacks were treated, and how some people still talk about homosexuals.

Anything that's different, in this mind set, is dangerous and needs to be avoided.


It will be bad when the "toupee of evil" in the flesh of Nancy Grace bashes Aspies


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27 Feb 2008, 12:12 am

What makes you think she will?



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27 Feb 2008, 12:20 am

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It is a very American movement. It has turned the concepts of freedom and libertarianism into issues of psychological health and well-being.


I can interpret that comment in multiple ways. I'm interested in what you meant with this comment.



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27 Feb 2008, 12:59 am

matrix wrote:
Rainstorm5 wrote:
SilverProteus wrote:
Delirium wrote:
I saw Hitler on the Wikipedia list of people speculated to have had Asperger's.


Hilter was known to be very charismatic and good with people. If he was speculated to have had Asperger's, that specualtion is far off, IMO.


Agreed, Hitler was a sociopath, IMO, nothing more. I wonder why there always seems to be a confusion between the two conditions (AS & sociopathy)? Lack of outward emotion is really the only obvious similarity. Hitler displayed emotion quite well (whether it was genuine or not is up for debate).


If it wasn't for Hitler's reign in Austria Hans Asperger would have publicized the syndrome, but because of racial and disabled division in the states it would still be the wrong time.


That's fascinating. Why do you think Hitler would have preventing Asperger from going public? I'm afraid that isn't all too clear to me.



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27 Feb 2008, 2:19 am

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That's fascinating. Why do you think Hitler would have preventing Asperger from going public? I'm afraid that isn't all too clear to me.


Because those children would have been seen as damaged goods and disposed of and thier parents castrated.
Think of how you explain an aspie to your Facist occupiers hell-bent on instilling a new "Master Race" of "perfect" human beings.



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27 Feb 2008, 6:54 am

I think this topic is very unfair,but has led to some great insights,due to some of the replys.

Empathy is a problem even now it has worryed me i even worryed at one point incase i was a sociopath.I get greatly uncomfortable when people speak about someone whos ill or dieing and is close to them.I know my lack of response is wrong to other people in many areas.Sometimes i can watch something on tv and i feel like crying.Today i felt like crying because the animal rescue people seperated a mother duck from her ducklings by mistake and they where calling for her but she flew away then the animal rescues just drove off with the chicks in a basket.



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27 Feb 2008, 8:45 am

cataspie wrote:
I think this topic is very unfair,but has led to some great insights,due to some of the replys.

Empathy is a problem even now it has worryed me i even worryed at one point incase i was a sociopath.I get greatly uncomfortable when people speak about someone whos ill or dieing and is close to them.I know my lack of response is wrong to other people in many areas.Sometimes i can watch something on tv and i feel like crying.Today i felt like crying because the animal rescue people seperated a mother duck from her ducklings by mistake and they where calling for her but she flew away then the animal rescues just drove off with the chicks in a basket.


But it's not your fault if they don't like the way you respond.



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04 Mar 2008, 6:12 pm

This is asinine. :roll:

I am not going to hurt anyone, I am an activist to prevent that from happening.

This is ridiculous. 8O

Let's see shall we this logic has applied to many regimes

Jews steal money (in Germany)
blacks are idiotic (in South Africa)

and what do you get
the Holocaust and apartheid

I wished peopled would stop putting all of the apples in a basket because one of them is dry and parched and full of worms!

How about the rest of the apples, huh?



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07 Mar 2008, 9:49 pm

Meh, I was going to write a huge rant here but I see others have beaten me to the point (and probably a lot more coherently than I could manage). Suffice to say, this is utter B.S!! ! One serial killer with suspected Aspergers does not implicate the rest of the population with As (by one, I mean the unabomber, who possibly did have As. The others, I doubt it).



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07 Mar 2008, 10:35 pm

Lene wrote:
Meh, I was going to write a huge rant here but I see others have beaten me to the point (and probably a lot more coherently than I could manage). Suffice to say, this is utter B.S!! ! One serial killer with suspected Aspergers does not implicate the rest of the population with As (by one, I mean the unabomber, who possibly did have As. The others, I doubt it).


Think of it this way. Somebody that doesn't know much about AS is bound to think this way.

Look at how hate crimes against Muslims went up after Sept. 11 in the US. People understood that the hijackers were Muslims, but didn't understand that not all Muslims were like that. As a result, violence against Muslims went up afterwards.

AS is not necessarily something that makes a person a serial killer. Usually, if anything, when an Aspie get agressive, it is a form of communication.

As for me, I have found that AS has made me a very sensitive person, who can feel the feelings of those around him. This is something that I personally think of as a gift, not a weakness, as it allows me to connect with people in a way that really cannot be forced. As a result, I feel AS has made a more understanding and loving person.