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Are you liberal or Conservative?
Consevative 26%  26%  [ 109 ]
Liberal 74%  74%  [ 316 ]
Total votes : 425

Awiddershinlife
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12 Jul 2009, 7:36 pm

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and most importantly social class it is the duty of the wealthy to keep the poor out of poverty because the poor are the workers that make industry run they are the bottom of the pyramid,the foundation of all society the fall,society will follow and anarchy and chaos will spread.


Ah, yes - once upon a time this was called the middle class, the back bone of our nation. Now soaked by predatory capitalists, we are clawing to keep from going under the third time into the depths of poverty. When the capitalistic pigs (please forgive me I am a child of the 60s) have finally have hoard over all the money, what next? They already own all of the politicians (except Patrick Lahey and Bernie Sanders - and hopefully Obama).


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12 Jul 2009, 9:09 pm

It must be odd hearing that from a kid born in 92 where most kids my age love the lifestyle that got us into this mess the living beyond ones means life style.


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12 Jul 2009, 10:03 pm

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It must be odd hearing that from a kid born in 92 where most kids my age love the lifestyle that got us into this mess the living beyond ones means life style.



In the republic of mediocrity genius is dangerous.

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14 Jul 2009, 5:08 am

Pardon, I can't seem to find my Universal Humanism button on the poll.....?

I believe in the sanctity of human life as a core tenet. I base all of my political views off of this core inalienable belief that all humans are equal and of one tribe. I believe in the protection of human lives before all else. I believe in the protection of all living things on the planet as an essential requirement for the protection of human lives. I believe in the protection of our natural ecosystem as an essential requirement for the protection of human lives. I believe in the most conservative stance a human can have, the return to the Great Integrity.



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14 Jul 2009, 8:36 am

Awiddershinlife wrote:
I believe in the dignity of all living creatures and depending on what we might discuss, I could be categorized as either "liberal" or "conservative" but I voted liberal

I never was good at joining groups!!

Crassus wrote:
Pardon, I can't seem to find my Universal Humanism button on the poll.....?

I believe in the sanctity of human life as a core tenet. I base all of my political views off of this core inalienable belief that all humans are equal and of one tribe. I believe in the protection of human lives before all else. I believe in the protection of all living things on the planet as an essential requirement for the protection of human lives. I believe in the protection of our natural ecosystem as an essential requirement for the protection of human lives. I believe in the most conservative stance a human can have, the return to the Great Integrity.


Crassus, it’s nice to meet a like-minded, if not more eloquent, fellow - cheers!


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14 Jul 2009, 10:10 am

I am left-wing liberal (in the Nethelrnads, "liberal" means right-wing). On a Dutch forum similar to this one, the majority generally is socialist, but this is probably because the Socialist Party most protects disability benefits, public healthcare, and other social security that autistics statistically use more.



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14 Jul 2009, 11:11 am

ChangelingGirl wrote:
I am left-wing liberal (in the Nethelrnads, "liberal" means right-wing). On a Dutch forum similar to this one, the majority generally is socialist, but this is probably because the Socialist Party most protects disability benefits, public healthcare, and other social security that autistics statistically use more.


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17 Jul 2009, 10:24 pm

It doesn't matter which wing we are in as long as autistics and aspies are helped!


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17 Jul 2009, 11:58 pm

We dislike change from our own ways. We're also generally quite anti-establishment, which is why autism is so punk rock lol!



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20 Jul 2009, 8:21 am

Your username tells it all, lol


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20 Jul 2009, 10:38 pm

I probably will define myself as not liberal in most meanings you give to it.
but i am not conservative of many things.
more of a nihilist maybe I don't know



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20 Jul 2009, 10:50 pm

protest_the_hero wrote:
We dislike change from our own ways. We're also generally quite anti-establishment, which is why autism is so punk rock lol!


I am kinda wierd because I embrace change. I like to travel and I cannot stay at any job very long. But I still dress and wear my hair about the same as I did 40 years ago!


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25 Jul 2009, 2:02 am

Don't forget the liberals are still fighting for the same stuff for a long time, too. You're not alone...


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28 Jul 2009, 1:47 am

I consider myself a "Principled Conservative" or a Canadian Grassroots Reformer and thus am sort of aligned with this former party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_Party_of_Canada


I have conservative beliefs but don't align myself with any current party here in Canada since all of them seem to be pandering to the left and all support the suppression of free speech.If anyone follows the free speech debate in Canada, you will know what I mean...


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28 Jul 2009, 11:58 am

Tory_canuck wrote:
I consider myself a "Principled Conservative" or a Canadian Grassroots Reformer and thus am sort of aligned with this former party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_Party_of_Canada


I have conservative beliefs but don't align myself with any current party here in Canada since all of them seem to be pandering to the left and all support the suppression of free speech.If anyone follows the free speech debate in Canada, you will know what I mean...


I had not been following the free speech debate in Canada - never heard of it, I am embarrassed to say. I did google it and found a very interesting debate.

My people supported the underground railroad way back in the 1830s from the Carolina end – when it was unpopular to do so. It is a family tradition for us to protect the rights of those politically less powerful until they have their own voice.

I strongly, ferociously, feel that everyone has a right to their own voice, but it is not exactly the same as freely speaking. A voice communicates the needs of a community, but speech sometimes spews garbage that does pollute the environment - a fine line.

I totally believe in live & let live as long as it does not harm others, but harm is easy to define when you can hold up a victim and say, "Look!" A climate of hate is more nebulous, but can indirectly produce victims of obvious physical violence. But more pervasively impacts on employment, housing, back stabbing, and other areas of life that contribute to human dignity.

If it is allowed to happen to one group, it will extend to others – including us. Autistics often deal with intolerance, cruelness, and back stabbing as well as direct violence: a loss of human dignity. If each person on WP, AFF, and the other sites wrote in to voice the prejudices they have faced and the resulting harm emotionally and spiritually, if not physically (although there is that too), it would be overwhelming – we would drown it!

Our world needs less hate, not to protect hate – but we also need to be able to use our voices freely to speak up to minority (in power, not numbers) rights when it is not popular to do so. I hope some interesting discussions that clarify the boundaries between speech that supports a climate of hate against specific groups and a specific group speaking to their needs emerges. The guiding principle should be: does it increase love for others or does it increase hate for others.


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28 Jul 2009, 12:04 pm

I'm broadly libertarian but also very conservative too. Classical liberal with a strong national conservative streak?