Are aspies more likely to be conservative?

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Yes, there is a fine line, and it is already covered by the criminal code of Canada, whereby we do not require an additional quasi judicial tribunal to punish the person twice.The problem with the Canadian Human Rights commissions, is that they do not follow the rule of law and are not bound by the same rules of evidence as per the criminal justice system whereby the defendant has to right to see what evidence is used against them, and that before any searches or seizures are done, there must be a warrant prior to such.The HRC is based on a balance of probabilities as opposed to the criminal justice system whereas it must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the offense was committed.In criminal law, the prosecution must prove two things
1.the person DID committ the act (acteus reus)
2.The intent (mens rea)


With the HRCs, they do not need to prove any of that.If you offended somebody and they say they are offended by your speech, you are guilty and presumed as such before and after the show trial.

The harassment and bullying faced by aspies and those with autism as per described on Wrong Planet by various members, are covered by the criminal code and tort law should we choose to persue legal remedy for the offenses committed against us.There is no need for the "HRCs".

As far as employment goes, that is covered by the labour board.

HRCs were originally intended to cover issue like discrimination based on housing, etc, but their extrajudicial powers were expanded and now we are finding abuse of power and abuse of process.The HRCs should be limited to dealing with issues like housing and employment issues when it comes to discrimination, but they should not be the "Thought Police".

If you were to google Ezra Levant, you will find more insight into how bad our HRCs are.

really cause I'm massively libreal.

Tory, I was taken aback by what I read on that page. I have always viewed the Canadians as America's mature, intelligent cousin. I was aware of the Quebec French vs English tension, but I envisioned Canada as a peaceful, neutral, stable place to be. America was the reactive, intolerant, hyperactive child.

Right now Canada appears to have entered the realm of ‘between a rock and a hard place’. The manner (violent neo-jihadism or VNJs) in which jihad is currently applied is counter to Islam, and is not supported by the majority of Muslims. It puts the whole world in a terrible position. However, trying to balance it with the extremism of the Levant-like MRC*** crowd just throws the system further off balance. It is like over-steering a car on black ice running summer tires.

Both the neo-jihadists and Levant-like MRC crowd are hate-mongers vying for dominance. I hope they mutually wipe each other out so that we can refocus on building a compassionate world. However, they do try to drag us into their battles. We must learn ways to lovingly, peacefully resist.

“Right now, the Criminal Code has a hate speech crime in it. But, unlike the Canadian Human Rights Act, the Criminal Code has important defences built right in. Section 319(3) specifically protects anyone who was telling the truth, or believed what he was saying was true. Religious views are specifically protected, too, as are other defences. (http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blog ... rship.aspx).”

The criminal code section 319(3) is worthless!! If someone is hate-mongering, they ARE harming society. They are causing this harm because the demented hate-monger believes in the horrid messages they are spewing. That’s analogous to condoning murder simply because the PERP believed the person should die.

This is rediculous, but Levant does not have the answer!

“In 1994, [Levant] was featured in a Globe and Mail article on young neoconservatives after accusing the University of Alberta of racism for instituting an affirmative action program of hiring women and aboriginal professors. His actions outraged aboriginal law students, feminists and a number of professors and he was called to a meeting with the assistant dean who advised him of the university's non-academic code of conduct and defamation laws.

As head of the University of Alberta's speakers committee, Levant flew in controversial lawyer Doug Christie, best known for his advocacy in defence of Holocaust deniers and accused Nazi war criminals, for a debate, against Thomas Kuttner, a Jewish lawyer from the New Brunswick Human Rights Commission.[1]

Levant saw "youthquake", the term he used to describe what he identified as a conservative youth movement of the 1990s, as similar to the 1960s civil rights movement except that instead of being enslaved by racism, his generation was "enslaved by debt"[3] and, in order to liberate itself, society needed to dismantle elements such as trade unions, the minimum wage, universal health care, subsidized tuition and public pension plans[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Levant).”

Canada is unfortunately experiencing the violent neo-jihadist (VNJ) attempt to usurp the Minority Ruling Class (MRC)*** from the WASM*** (including those who immigrated to the ‘new world’ in the last six centuries), despite the current move toward a true democracy during the last three centuries.

Even the name of Levant’s book, “How our Government is Undermining Democracy in the Name of Human Rights” is embarrassing. Levant wants “democracy (government by the people)” limited to the MRC: An oxymoron.

*** I prefer to call this dominant group the Minority Ruling Class (MRC), because, although currently it is white anglo-saxon males (WASM) attempting dominance, there are many fine men in this world, of all colors. They do no harm, and many spend their lives helping others.

Additionally, even if the MRC happens to be primarily WASM at this time, it was not always, and their reign will end. It is being threatened through attempted coup by VNJs, and both sides are quick to drag the rest of us into their battles (and like fools, we go!). World dominance has been the heritage of the WASM for only a millennia, organizing small Celtic tribes of people through wars with Saxons, Normans, and then to counter the domination of the BC/AD Roman take-over of Europe . They attempted world domination as the Mongolian 200-year rule (but at least the Mongols believed in instituting some diversity) rose and fell, which was the largest yet. This MRC dominance is waning, thankfully, but is still evident by the economic collapse of wall street: unregulated greed of the MRC, acting to accumulate wealth with total disregard of others and their own country (as they claim to be patriotic out of the other side of their mouth). Because of the clandestine, merciless way the MRC operates to seize power and subordinate (and fool) the majority, we are dependent on the government to empower those who are aboveboard, forthright, honest, open, truthful, and peace-loving in order to create a compassionate world.

I grew up in the 50s. I remember what it was like to live under the open regime of MRC dominance. You are either one of them or your life is forfeit. It is not democracy, it is a straight jacket. Although the MRC may not like to publically admit it, they are anti-democracy, fighting anything that leads to rule of the people ( the definition of democracy). They try to convincingly claim it was the wish of the founding fathers (read their bios, please) and supported by God (who is portrayed as a “WASM”). Both MRC & VNJs too often bring their unique interpretation of religion into it as though God supports their dominance (hey, actually read the scriptures of any religion, they do not support any of the MRC’s or VNJs actions!).

While it harms all of society, it harms the MRC most of all – for they have lost their souls.

Wow that's a lot of liberal woo definitions...
I would seriously want to put some heart jihad joke in but ill just mention it at that so..
well.. i don't really know from what angle to answer it or even if it's worth it to initiate a debate but it goes ina some sort of cover up circle with the use of jihad.. a little bit of affective attachment can be sensed.

Affirmative action is reverse discrimination.As an aspie, I have special interests, and as a result, I am way better at something than many and have had excellent grades in such.Im sure many here are the same.How would you feel if you were denied admission to university or college despite your excellent grades and meeting their criteria, in the name of affirmative action because the person taking your spot who doesn't have near as much acedemic qualifications as you is of a minority race or group.


The Levant issue:


"I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it"-Voltaire.

Without debate, there is no democracy.Should we throw all pro-lifers into gulags on Resolute Island up near Nunavut because the abortion debate offends people?


Debt:

debt is slavery...freedom from debt, is FREEDOM.


Whilst I believe that nobody should be denied health care due to financial reasons, health care needs to be reformed so people are not dying on the waiting lists as they are in Canada, and government should not decide what and who should get treatment.


AS far as the HRC vs. Criminal code goes, if you read my post you would notice that I was referring to the whole legal process and litigation differences, whereby truth should be a defence and that everyone should be entitled to due process when it comes to law.

As for me, I'm very liberal.

A rather incomplete sort of poll, isn't it? Anyway, I'm a Conservative Democrat and run toward the moderate end of the spectrum on average. Not too far left OR right. Which makes me feel a compulsion to strangle my own party nearly as much as Republicans. Which I often rather agree with on a number of issues, even if they go too far most of the time and don't think with their heads half as much as they should.

Disclaimer: This is not flame bait for any potential Republican replies. Though I will hit you on the head if I see too much partisan politic out of you. That goes for fellow Democrats too.

I'm sorry if this is in the wrong place but I'd like a chance to state my political beliefs briefly.

I find myself agreeing with socialists and communists when thay describe how society is now. I agree that it is basically impossible for a poor person to become rich. I agree that our minds are warped into overspending by advertisements.

However I become sceptical of what communists are saying when they argue that we can fix it. Can we? It seems to me like people are too stupid and greedy to ever launch a Communist revolution. Also, I watched a video recently about how the american rich-poor divide is growing even under Obama. I also read an article just today about how the rich-poor divide is growing in Canada too. Could things really be fixed within the system either?

I guess, to answer the poll question, I am not liberal or conservative. My political position is cynicism. My political position is despair.

I'm a Nationalist Libertarian Conservative.

Is a dislike (on the part of some Aspies) of a change in daily routine really analogous to conservatism, that is, opposition to CULTURAL, POLITICAL changes?


Especially when those changes are continually more inclusive of previously misunderstood and disenfranchised people?

In any case, I'm a flaming liberal of the democratic socialist sort.

To be honest I don't see myself as either, I usually find a third party candidate who I like more. I didn't like either McCain or Obama, to be honest.

I don't think the Asperger's traits apply to politics, however.

However, I myself like change in some ways, and in some ways absolutely abhor it. I guess it's because my ADHD tends to conflict with my Asperger's (if I could describe it as that) sometimes.

Hello Somalia!

Is this poll a good example of Aspie black and white thinking?

I'm gonna just guess the OP is probably conservative, only because I've never see anybody but conservatives insinuate there's no in between, or even other possibilities. Hmm. That's very black and white, isn't it? Is that why the OP might think most of us are conservative? Because conservatives are somewhat black and white in their thinking, ergo black and white thinking Aspies must tend to be conservative?

Don't know. I'm Apolitical. There are no political categories that come even close to my beliefs.

As to the OP's original premise that we might be more conservative because we don't like change? I think the premise is faulty. Yes, we don't tend to like change, in our personal lives, however we also have a tendency to rail against the way things are, insisting certain things about this world should be changed. Wanting society to change, is very different from disliking changes that directly affect our routines. The two are not really contradictory.

In a United States context of politics that sounds more like Paleoconservatism

Apathetic