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01 Aug 2011, 8:14 pm

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Adult bullies most of the time do not physically beat up autistics but they wield their favorite tools of oppression against autistics by getting us fired from jobs.


And what is it that makes you think only autistic people are bullied? come on try being a little bit realistic, also when I was your age and younger I got picked on for being different...sure it turns out I have AS but they were not specifically picking on me because of that they probably did not even know what AS or regular autism was...so I know the sort of treatment you are talking about but its not nessisarly directed at only people with autism. sure people with the bully mentality will pick on people who are 'different' in general actaully. Oh and not all NTs have that mentality.

well we get bullied more. as i said earlier in the post i have been in several situations which were not normal, i can understand that people tease and intimidate each other, but getting into life threatening situations is not normal. And when my life is in danger i try to deal with it by getting tougher. this is what i have been doing with autism supremacy.



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01 Aug 2011, 8:18 pm

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Adult bullies most of the time do not physically beat up autistics but they wield their favorite tools of oppression against autistics by getting us fired from jobs.


And what is it that makes you think only autistic people are bullied? come on try being a little bit realistic, also when I was your age and younger I got picked on for being different...sure it turns out I have AS but they were not specifically picking on me because of that they probably did not even know what AS or regular autism was...so I know the sort of treatment you are talking about but its not nessisarly directed at only people with autism. sure people with the bully mentality will pick on people who are 'different' in general actaully. Oh and not all NTs have that mentality.

well we get bullied more. as i said earlier in the post i have been in several situations which were not normal, i can understand that people tease and intimidate each other, but getting into life threatening situations is not normal. And when my life is in danger i try to deal with it by getting tougher. this is what i have been doing with autism supremacy.


Right even so, not only people with autism are bullied....many are including me for coming off as 'weird' but its not like every NT knows exactly what AS or regular autism is and is out looking for anyone who expresses any signs of having it so they can bully them........nothing wrong with 'getting tougher' if that help's but why do you want to be just as much of an as*hole as those people have been to you, towards anyone who does not have AS or regular autism.

Why mimick the oppressor?



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01 Aug 2011, 8:31 pm

why? good question. so you don't get oppressed thats why.



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01 Aug 2011, 9:36 pm

I am not saying that I am the only one who gets picked on at a job. Obviously if someone can't pass a drug test I'm going to get their job. If someone is drunk and doesn't show up at work or is late all of the time I'm going to get their job. What I am saying is that all things being equal, when I am competing against people who are knowledgeable , reliable and take their job seriously I'm going to be the first good worker they get rid of after they get rid of the rift raft.

First of all the Boss doesn't have to know how to diagnose autism in order for him to give you hell on a job. In the Bosses mind a person with autism is a person with a screw loose, a person who doesn't have a clue and a person in his own little world. In other words the Boss diagnoses a person with autism as either an idiot or a ret*d. At that point a Boss will become like a viper and lash out at the autistic for any petty infraction or worse the Boss will find a way to make the autistic wrong. The Boss will ride the autistic worker into the ground and the Boss will try to instill into the mind of the autistic that he should fear for his job. Unfortunately once respect is lost the autistic worker gets fired anyways no matter what he does.

Unfortunately getting fired is not enough punishment if you are autistic. My Boss will immediately complain to my Union and demand a reason as to why an idiot was dispatched to his job. My Boss will then demand that my journey level certification papers be confiscated from me so that I will be blackballed from further employment. My Boss threatens that he will never call the Union hiring hall again and will not renew his contract with the Union. At that point my Union officials threaten me with physical harm.



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01 Aug 2011, 9:41 pm

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why? good question. so you don't get oppressed thats why.


Just because I would prefer not to be oppressed does not mean I want to be the one doing the oppressing. Treat other people like dirt so I don't get opressed is not a very good way to solve problems.



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01 Aug 2011, 9:42 pm

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I am not saying that I am the only one who gets picked on at a job. Obviously if someone can't pass a drug test I'm going to get their job. If someone is drunk and doesn't show up at work or is late all of the time I'm going to get their job. What I am saying is that all things being equal, when I am competing against people who are knowledgeable , reliable and take their job seriously I'm going to be the first good worker they get rid of after they get rid of the rift raft.

First of all the Boss doesn't have to know how to diagnose autism in order for him to give you hell on a job. In the Bosses mind a person with autism is a person with a screw loose, a person who doesn't have a clue and a person in his own little world. In other words the Boss diagnoses a person with autism as either an idiot or a ret*d. At that point a Boss will become like a viper and lash out at the autistic for any petty infraction or worse the Boss will find a way to make the autistic wrong. The Boss will ride the autistic worker into the ground and the Boss will try to instill into the mind of the autistic that he should fear for his job. Unfortunately once respect is lost the autistic worker gets fired anyways no matter what he does.

Unfortunately getting fired is not enough punishment if you are autistic. My Boss will immediately complain to my Union and demand a reason as to why an idiot was dispatched to his job. My Boss will then demand that my journey level certification papers be confiscated from me so that I will be blackballed from further employment. My Boss threatens that he will never call the Union hiring hall again and will not renew his contract with the Union. At that point my Union officials threaten me with physical harm.


And it can never happen to anyone who is not autistic, you cannot honestly belive that I would hope.



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01 Aug 2011, 11:45 pm

Yes it happened to Jimmy Hoffa.



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02 Aug 2011, 12:10 am

You are making yourself a very unhappy person in result if you persist with this. Your outlook is effected, your motivation and your view of others. When you have facts I will listen to you as you have been able, willing and proven to work in life prior to the recession without this broken recorder the world hates me because I have autism baloney. Hopefully no one takes you 100% seriously and you learn not to take yourself in this regard to seriously when you become negative in your outlook and resort to this rationale. If people with autism and especially children took you too seriously I think they would learn not to bother in life.

Enough with it is my suggestion.


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02 Aug 2011, 9:12 am

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You are making yourself a very unhappy person in result if you persist with this. Your outlook is effected, your motivation and your view of others. When you have facts I will listen to you as you have been able, willing and proven to work in life prior to the recession without this broken recorder the world hates me because I have autism baloney. Hopefully no one takes you 100% seriously and you learn not to take yourself in this regard to seriously when you become negative in your outlook and resort to this rationale. If people with autism and especially children took you too seriously I think they would learn not to bother in life.

Enough with it is my suggestion.

well dammit it sounds like his outlook is like the situations he's in, it sucks! thats why we need autistic bosses, autistic unions, and autistic government. Can't you see that we will never get anywhere without all of these things? we will be forced to do menial work under abusive bosses forever. come on man do us all a favor and admit that NTs single out people who are "weird" and target them for bullying. its what they call a tough reality, i would think that someone in your position would recognize this fact and not try to cover it up.



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02 Aug 2011, 10:33 am

i cant blame aspie 48 from being mad,i dont know if anyone read my post on the "in the news" forum but yesterday in boston a van carrying developmentaly disabled adults rashed into a truck and the driver of the van is in jail on agrivated dwi charges.more info read my post on the news and current events forum


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02 Aug 2011, 11:50 am

aspie48 wrote:
ci wrote:
You are making yourself a very unhappy person in result if you persist with this. Your outlook is effected, your motivation and your view of others. When you have facts I will listen to you as you have been able, willing and proven to work in life prior to the recession without this broken recorder the world hates me because I have autism baloney. Hopefully no one takes you 100% seriously and you learn not to take yourself in this regard to seriously when you become negative in your outlook and resort to this rationale. If people with autism and especially children took you too seriously I think they would learn not to bother in life.

Enough with it is my suggestion.

well dammit it sounds like his outlook is like the situations he's in, it sucks! thats why we need autistic bosses, autistic unions, and autistic government. Can't you see that we will never get anywhere without all of these things? we will be forced to do menial work under abusive bosses forever. come on man do us all a favor and admit that NTs single out people who are "weird" and target them for bullying. its what they call a tough reality, i would think that someone in your position would recognize this fact and not try to cover it up.


Where applicable and not otherwise. What is proposed is a vicious cycle of certainty when it is not otherwise proven fact. Hence if one believes one can also create circumstances of self-imposed hardship and even the creation of termination with a persistent false belief when otherwise not applicable. If I was to consistently count to ten the numbers in order would always be true but this is not counting numbers of certainty but he contributed the certainty of the otherwise stereotypically unproven. It is in fact a discrimination toward others in part when it is not true but in how they react to it will vary and some or more with sympathy.


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02 Aug 2011, 5:42 pm

i could treat some NT real nice and they would be mean back, seen it happen. they just don't like us cuz we are awkward and don't make eye contact.



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02 Aug 2011, 6:20 pm

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i cant blame aspie 48 from being mad,i dont know if anyone read my post on the "in the news" forum but yesterday in boston a van carrying developmentaly disabled adults rashed into a truck and the driver of the van is in jail on agrivated dwi charges.more info read my post on the news and current events forum


That would be why you don't drive when you are on drugs...regardless of who your passengers are....if the dude really wanted to kill the disabled passangers he would not have needed alcohol to do it.



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02 Aug 2011, 6:44 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
i cant blame aspie 48 from being mad,i dont know if anyone read my post on the "in the news" forum but yesterday in boston a van carrying developmentaly disabled adults rashed into a truck and the driver of the van is in jail on agrivated dwi charges.more info read my post on the news and current events forum


That would be why you don't drive when you are on drugs...regardless of who your passengers are....if the dude really wanted to kill the disabled passangers he would not have needed alcohol to do it.

what really pisses me off is that he is not charged with manslaughter. it shows that people think that disabled people's lives are worth less.



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02 Aug 2011, 7:15 pm

aspie48 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
i cant blame aspie 48 from being mad,i dont know if anyone read my post on the "in the news" forum but yesterday in boston a van carrying developmentaly disabled adults rashed into a truck and the driver of the van is in jail on agrivated dwi charges.more info read my post on the news and current events forum


That would be why you don't drive when you are on drugs...regardless of who your passengers are....if the dude really wanted to kill the disabled passangers he would not have needed alcohol to do it.

what really pisses me off is that he is not charged with manslaughter. it shows that people think that disabled people's lives are worth less.


Well at least you acknowledge people with Autism are not the only ones who get treated like crap sometimes...Also if you really look at most of the world is being screwed by a few rich a**holes. As far as I am concerned anyone who wants to remain divided based on race, Whether or not one has Autism or not, sexual orientation ect. is part of the problem.........it just keeps us divided so that we cannot stand up against the real enemy.



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02 Aug 2011, 8:23 pm

well autism supremacy is against being screwed up by rich folks in autism speaks