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11 Sep 2011, 7:08 pm

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I've already provided evidence.
Where?
Surely you can't possibly mean a rap video, a link to a WP post containing a video of people quietly protesting with placards, a "Hippie Life" music video, and a Bon Jovi video (twice)? Because apart from your restating what you've already said as backup for what you've already said, I see nothing else.

Yet astonishingly, that's exactly what you are doing: using music videos as evidence for your claims.
To AlanTuring on page 4:
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You refuse to look at embedded videos yet say I don't provide evidence. Seems fairly obvious your ignoring reality.
You are either unaware or simply don't care that some of us may have difficulties with any type of 'evidence' taking the form of a video (and I most certainly do when it takes the form of rap or other uncomfortable noise masquerading as music) - either because of sensory issues or because you're expecting us to wade through a video with no indication whatever of the points which are salient to you as evidence. I'm not sure which of these is the most abhorrent approach.
srriv345 has gone to the trouble of doing what you are not and her input has been both interesting and useful.

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I can assure you the only hot air is coming from the claims of anti-cure pride advocates many times who do more to put their feet in their mouths then for a need for any psychological professional I'd consult to figure out the rhymes to their reasoning.
Are you referring to me with this?
I ask, because it's unclear if this is another example of your evidence or another example of your snide little 'pride mite' -style attacks.


Alright coming into the topic between two individuals that has lasted in this context a few weeks I understand you don't know what the relevancy is. The pride protest video was provided in link. He states otherwise pride does not exist outside of this forum. He refuses to bother to look or less has and then fibs about it. Another member did a little research as well. So this conversation is not for those who do not bother to do the research. I refuse to provide the links simply because I want people to discover it themselves. It's better that way.

A part of the requirement of this conversation by me as the OP is to do a little research. I am not going to do that for you. I have my reasons for this and if you don't like it don't participate in the conversation.

Perhaps you can go cry yourself a river like you say to me or something as your not getting your way but I am not crying.

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11 Sep 2011, 7:36 pm

ci wrote:
Alright coming into the topic between two individuals that has lasted in this context a few weeks I understand you don't know what the relevancy is.
I'd be grateful if you wouldn't put words in my mouth. You have no idea how much I've been following this thread and others, or my understanding of the issues involved.

Attacking another member is unworthy of comment except to say that it is noted.
You then go on to say:
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I refuse to provide the links simply because I want people to discover it themselves. It's better that way.
and yet earlier, you said:
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You refuse to look at embedded videos yet say I don't provide evidence. Seems fairly obvious your ignoring reality.
Isn't that a little contradictory - or at least, confusing? So which is it - evidence or some sort of free entertainment?
I also note your lack of comment on what is by now not the first objection to your use of embedded videos.

I see that you've since edited your post while I've been typing this reply to it and you now include a Justin Timberlake video.
What's the point of that if not to denigrate still further all questions on your opinions?
Really ci, you do your credibility no favours at all.

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A part of the requirement of this conversation by me as the OP is to do a little research. I am not going to do that for you. I have my reasons for this and if you don't like it don't participate in the conversation.
Please don't tell me how to frame my questions in a public forum, or attempt to retrospectively establish some sort of entrance qualifications for a public discussion. You run the risk of making yourself look ridiculous.


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11 Sep 2011, 7:42 pm

Cornflake wrote:
ci wrote:
Alright coming into the topic between two individuals that has lasted in this context a few weeks I understand you don't know what the relevancy is.
I'd be grateful if you wouldn't put words in my mouth. You have no idea how much I've been following this thread and others, or my understanding of the issues involved.

Attacking another member is unworthy of comment except to say that it is noted.
You then go on to say:
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I refuse to provide the links simply because I want people to discover it themselves. It's better that way.
and yet earlier, you said:
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You refuse to look at embedded videos yet say I don't provide evidence. Seems fairly obvious your ignoring reality.
Isn't that a little contradictory - or at least, confusing? So which is it - evidence or some sort of free entertainment?
I also note your lack of comment on what is by now not the first objection to your use of embedded videos.

I see that you've since edited your post while I've been typing this reply to it and you now include a Justin Timberlake video.
What's the point of that if not to denigrate still further all questions on your opinions?
Really ci, you do your credibility no favours at all.

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A part of the requirement of this conversation by me as the OP is to do a little research. I am not going to do that for you. I have my reasons for this and if you don't like it don't participate in the conversation.
Please don't tell me how to frame my questions in a public forum, or attempt to retrospectively establish some sort of entrance qualifications for a public discussion. You run the risk of making yourself look ridiculous.


Again I state the following and it won't be twisted up in your lack of willingness to find the facts. Research Autism Pride yourself. I was an observer in the origins and found it was not for me and did my own thing. When I provide videos and you want evidence and refuse to look at them that is your unwillingness and music videos you must know are simply entertaining and nothing more unless it's your style to twist up such things or you may have some critical reasoning skills to be obtained. I don't see how other then purposely doing so you can consider that a lack of credibility. Autism pride was based on eugenics and anti-cure. Cure is interpreted simply as eugenics. I differ stating a cure is about treatment and anything aside from that is not a cure. Once their is abortion in play it's abortion politics and that eugenic politics in the form of selective abortions. I'm not interested in being member to abortion related politics but the issues are constantly merged together by pride advocates. I've removed the knotted logic in the issues a bit but I do not believe people will separate the issues becuase of fear and emotions. .


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12 Sep 2011, 2:29 am

ci wrote:
Perhaps you can go cry yourself a river like you say to me or something as your not getting your way but I am not crying.

So you say it was wrong for him to say that but then go ahead and say it yourself? I wont even go in to what else you said.



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12 Sep 2011, 2:52 am

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ci wrote:
Perhaps you can go cry yourself a river like you say to me or something as your not getting your way but I am not crying.

So you say it was wrong for him to say that but then go ahead and say it yourself? I wont even go in to what else you said.


Sometimes it feels good when someone says something like that to just make it into nonsense in result. The person has then the option to do something else then taking their own advise. Is why I posted a video entitled it as well. With regards to the pride, eugenics and so on the topics are old and socially spent. I have concluded my interest in them.

The metaphor of Pandora's box I am reminded of. At the bottom of the box resides hope. I'm more interested in that as a concept.


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12 Sep 2011, 6:37 am

Ci.

You've been asked to provide certain informations that you hold to be obvious and then don't, blaming others for not seeing what you won't show them, throwing unsubstantiated claims around, and being vaguely provocative and insulting, creating much ill feeling.

Since nothing of positive value is being created, I can only assume that you keep returning to these threads in order to provoke others, and that is against the rules.

I'm going to temporarily start locking any threads that descend into argumentative pointlessness. Starting with this one.


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