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15 Dec 2011, 2:53 pm

If I'm not mistaken, Godwins Law only applies when someone is compared to Nazis, not when hiding from Nazis is used as an analogy.


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15 Dec 2011, 3:02 pm

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If you are hiding from killer clowns from outer space, and someone like CWC thinks it will be funny to start yelling "hey, here we are, over here!", what do you do? I'll even grant you that the person truly does not understand the consequences. At that point, just before the rubber nosed, big panted artists bust down the door to your hiding place, are you going to think sticking by someone like that was such a good idea, or would you wish you'd let him deal with the squirting flowers and endless handkerchiefs on his own?


You already lost me at approving of bullying. Now you say it is to save your own skin?

Quit with the dumb analogies


I never approved bullying, you must be unable to understand context. And no one will answer the question will they? Because real world it tough, thus the very real and very reasonable fear many with AS have about venturing out into it.

Have you ever held a job an high pressure executive environment? I have, and you say I am insensitive to being bullied...I was an art director at Sega, the very company whose characters CWC loves so much.

If you wish, go back over the thread, pull out where I approve of bullying, and post a collection here.

The answer the question? I don't know, maybe knock the person out, at least you won't be discovered, and a bump on the head that saved all your lives is preferable to all being killed. Why is that so hard to admit? Heck, if jingling keys will keep him quiet, do that! The point of the question was, what might you do?



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15 Dec 2011, 3:22 pm

shrox wrote:
I never approved bullying, you must be unable to understand context.

Oh no, I think I understand context very fine. From what I can see in the forum you have called him the village idiot, made some mercurial remarks about him being an internet celebrity and posted troll videoes, all the while not batting an eyelid when crazed wackos accuse him of wanting to be bullied

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If you wish, go back over the thread, pull out where I approve of bullying, and post a collection here.
I don't need to rewrite war and peace to satisfy your weird demands. You're the one saying that you should knock him out

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The answer the question? I don't know, maybe knock the person out, at least you won't be discovered, and a bump on the head that saved all your lives is preferable to all being killed. Why is that so hard to admit? Heck, if jingling keys will keep him quiet, do that! The point of the question was, what might you do?

Quit trying to build up some fantasy. All you're doing is making a sympathy case for yourself by accusing him of selling you out



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15 Dec 2011, 4:06 pm

MarcusTulliusCicero wrote:
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I never approved bullying, you must be unable to understand context.

Oh no, I think I understand context very fine. From what I can see in the forum you have called him the village idiot, made some mercurial remarks about him being an internet celebrity and posted troll videoes, all the while not batting an eyelid when crazed wackos accuse him of wanting to be bullied

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If you wish, go back over the thread, pull out where I approve of bullying, and post a collection here.
I don't need to rewrite war and peace to satisfy your weird demands. You're the one saying that you should knock him out

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The answer the question? I don't know, maybe knock the person out, at least you won't be discovered, and a bump on the head that saved all your lives is preferable to all being killed. Why is that so hard to admit? Heck, if jingling keys will keep him quiet, do that! The point of the question was, what might you do?

Quit trying to build up some fantasy. All you're doing is making a sympathy case for yourself by accusing him of selling you out


Pearls....



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15 Dec 2011, 4:52 pm

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Pearls....


I have no idea what's going through your head, but you can't just call someone dead weight to save your hide, otherwise you're just perpetuating bigotry by making it appear valid



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15 Dec 2011, 7:04 pm

Well Chris Chan might be a clown and a fool and probably starting today a person with a criminal record but I'll give him something, his mere existence has spurred a legacy that will probably outlive him.



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16 Dec 2011, 4:12 pm

MarcusTulliusCicero wrote:
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Pearls....


I have no idea what's going through your head, but you can't just call someone dead weight to save your hide, otherwise you're just perpetuating bigotry by making it appear valid


Wow, you completely missed the point. The scenario I mentioned has often been real, but usually involved a crying baby. Do you think they killed the baby? Of course not, one thing they did was use a bit of chloroform or alcohol to quiet the baby. What I asked is what would other readers do in a similar situation? What would you do in a similar situation?



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16 Dec 2011, 4:15 pm

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Wow, you completely missed the point. The scenario I mentioned has often been real, but usually involved a crying baby. Do you think they killed the baby? Of course not, one thing they did was use a bit of chloroform or alcohol to quiet the baby. What I asked is what would other readers do in a similar situation? What would you do in a similar situation?
No, I completely missed the point. I just completely went around what you wanted to pidgeonhole me to.

This bears no relation to what we were saying before. I am not going to sit down and listen to you try and misrepresent a situation of bullying and tell me that I did this wrong, and that, and this, constantly



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16 Dec 2011, 4:17 pm

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Wow, you completely missed the point. The scenario I mentioned has often been real, but usually involved a crying baby. Do you think they killed the baby? Of course not, one thing they did was use a bit of chloroform or alcohol to quiet the baby. What I asked is what would other readers do in a similar situation? What would you do in a similar situation?
No, I completely missed the point. I just completely went around what you wanted to pidgeonhole me to.

This bears no relation to what we were saying before. I am not going to sit down and listen to you try and misrepresent a situation of bullying and tell me that I did this wrong, and that, and this, constantly


At this point you've lost me. Why do you think I approve of bullying? Honestly, why?



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16 Dec 2011, 4:26 pm

shrox wrote:
MarcusTulliusCicero wrote:
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Wow, you completely missed the point. The scenario I mentioned has often been real, but usually involved a crying baby. Do you think they killed the baby? Of course not, one thing they did was use a bit of chloroform or alcohol to quiet the baby. What I asked is what would other readers do in a similar situation? What would you do in a similar situation?
No, I completely missed the point. I just completely went around what you wanted to pidgeonhole me to.

This bears no relation to what we were saying before. I am not going to sit down and listen to you try and misrepresent a situation of bullying and tell me that I did this wrong, and that, and this, constantly


At this point you've lost me. Why do you think I approve of bullying? Honestly, why?
Okay, I'll explain it one more time for you. Maybe you'll get it
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Oh no, I think I understand context very fine. From what I can see in the forum you have called him the village idiot, made some mercurial remarks about him being an internet celebrity and posted troll videoes, all the while not batting an eyelid when crazed wackos accuse him of wanting to be bullied

And this whole crazy scenario you have made up. This man is not leading you to some hideout. He is not selling you out to trolls by design or mistake. It's even been said last page:



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16 Dec 2011, 4:34 pm

MarcusTulliusCicero wrote:
shrox wrote:
MarcusTulliusCicero wrote:
shrox wrote:
Wow, you completely missed the point. The scenario I mentioned has often been real, but usually involved a crying baby. Do you think they killed the baby? Of course not, one thing they did was use a bit of chloroform or alcohol to quiet the baby. What I asked is what would other readers do in a similar situation? What would you do in a similar situation?
No, I completely missed the point. I just completely went around what you wanted to pidgeonhole me to.

This bears no relation to what we were saying before. I am not going to sit down and listen to you try and misrepresent a situation of bullying and tell me that I did this wrong, and that, and this, constantly


At this point you've lost me. Why do you think I approve of bullying? Honestly, why?
Okay, I'll explain it one more time for you. Maybe you'll get it
MarcusTulliusCicero wrote:
Oh no, I think I understand context very fine. From what I can see in the forum you have called him the village idiot, made some mercurial remarks about him being an internet celebrity and posted troll videoes, all the while not batting an eyelid when crazed wackos accuse him of wanting to be bullied

And this whole crazy scenario you have made up. This man is not leading you to some hideout. He is not selling you out to trolls by design or mistake. It's even been said last page:


Geez, Context, context. context!

I said he might have the role of village idiot if he lived in medieval times, and might make a good living at it. Here is exactly what I was referring to:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhDJxEPRDek[/youtube]

I would be the one leading a group to a hideout, and it was a hypothetical question, how could you not get that?

And again, why would any rational person think I am "pro-bullying"? Any other readers care to speak up?



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16 Dec 2011, 4:44 pm

Great one thing. You didn't even bat an eyelid when people said he wanted it though



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16 Dec 2011, 4:48 pm

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Great one thing. You didn't even bat an eyelid when people said he wanted it though

My posts up to page 5...

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:04 am
I wonder if Chris realizes he could actually make a living as himself, I could see him becoming a regular on some morning radio show. It might not be ideal, and certainly not a true "representation" of any condition, but for his own financial welfare, it's something I could see happening. Maybe FOX will pick up a show around him.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:34 am
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Oh yes, bread and circuses for Rome. L: Another gladiator for the sport of madmen if you please.

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Do you think homelessness would be better for him? I did not enjoy it.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:53 am
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Indeed. And so you supposed bullying a man is any better? Say, you said you were a christian were you not? Since when did being a christian involve harassing a man with no sense of direction, a terrible upbringing, severe loneliness and no wisdom whatsoever?

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That is not what I implied at all.
What's wrong with him making money from the very people that might enjoy "ridiculing" him? He would get "bullied" if he was homeless on the street anyway, and probably beat-up, maybe even killed for sport.
So why don't you step up with an idea for his future then?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:37 am
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I haven't bullied him, I messaged him suggesting he explore computer animation.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:53 pm
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Good. Don't say it's okay to either. He hasn't brought bullying upon himself. That's like saying that someone has brought having acid thrown in their face upon themselves. It's unnecessary cruelty to bully someone.

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The he is literally standing with a sign that says "throw acid here."

I offered him an idea. You offered me criticism.

I can review and post more...I am sure I left something out, be sure to post it if I did.



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16 Dec 2011, 4:56 pm

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Good. Don't say it's okay to either. He hasn't brought bullying upon himself. That's like saying that someone has brought having acid thrown in their face upon themselves. It's unnecessary cruelty to bully someone.

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The he is literally standing with a sign that says "throw acid here."
Really? I thought this Gedrene guy was supposed to be a pain or something. All he did was say that you implied that he had it coming. And then you confirmed it yourself.

You can't see what you're doing wrong, even here. Fine, good day sir



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16 Dec 2011, 6:07 pm

Lesson learned: Never argue with someone with a Latin username.



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16 Dec 2011, 9:54 pm

I think that what we're missing from this little party are that theres a whole circle of Youtube Aspergers guys who follow every silly little update from Chris Chan and pick everything he says apart. Then a cursory research of these guys reveals that they are little more than a Chris Chan but born from a different mother.