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You can't argue rationally with a fundamentalist, Sinsboldly. They need (for whatever reason) to believe as they do and the more you try to provide other intellectual options for them to examine, the more threatened they will become, and, typically, the more angry. The more angry they become, the more tightly they will cling to their original thoughts. They inevitably tend to start feeling as if the world is "against" them which will lead to nothing useful in the long run of things. (Or, at least, that's how I've seen it play out for years.)

Given the wide disparity in education levels and the apparent reading comprehension abilities running through this board, and given paragraph 1, above, it's pointless to continue trying to present alternate concepts - there are people in this discussion are not capable of processing them. It would appear from several of the responses that in spots in this thread at least a few individuals didn't understand what was written, filling in what they guessed was the deep content and missing it badly. In at least one place, it was obvious they were clueless as to what the message sent was entirely. If they can't see it, you can't discuss it.

Best to just leave them to stew and to live in the world they've built for themselves. If they ever get any actual power in the world, which is doubtful, Chuck'll take care of it.

By the way, if I were analyzing this entire thread (not that ~I~ am prone to over-analyzing discussions ) and going on a hunch (and just a hunch) I'd say you were arguing with at least one autistic person who feels that life would be better if s/he were just "normal" and who hasn't got a real clue what "normal" might entail. Or, perhaps, someone who would like to be considered, or is afraid they are, autistic, as even with the downsides it might explain why their life isn't as they'd like it to be. And, thus, once a fix is found....

Whatever. I'd say give it a rest, this horse has been beaten to death.

I still demand a cure! I just do not think Autistics are the worst problem.

Autism as defined cannot be applied to any who have any mental illness or neurological problem.

Normal people are not screened for mental illness, or neuological defect.

Only Autistics are Certified to be free of such conditions.

Mental illness is very common, I have heard one in seven, and of course it spreads.

It is dealt with, controlled but not cured.

Mental illness is taken as an excuse for behavior, with treatment as needed.

Of those who are not mentally ill, about 3% of the population is currently involved with the prison and parole system, and many more on probation. Some constant 20,000,000.

They are not autistic, neurologically impaired, nor mentally ill, they are perfectly healthy normal criminals. Treatment is very expensive and does not seem to work.

Many more do not come to anyone's notice, but drink a quart of Vodka a day.

Between the mentally ill, criminals, and drunks, that is 33% of the population, and you have to consider that of the rest, many are in grammer school or nursing homes.

Autistics make up 0.66% of the population, 1 in 150, with perhaps 1/4 in need of residential care and support.

00.165% of the population.

I am pro cure, but do not think that autism is the place to start.

The danger is it is mostly a social impairment, which if it could be reversed, would still leave people who thought and processed information in a different way being able to engage and tell every one about their interests. I think this would lead to more normal people in prison.

As for social costs, lives not worth living, bringing pain and suffering to others, the prison system is residential care for that problem, and it does not slow the process.

I have my doubts that any autism cure could do more than is being done, working to make autistics capable of social interaction, and annoying others. The mute were the ones that survived.

If it was possible to make them normal, and they suddenly became like everyone else, well, the Aspie faction is smart, verbal, and claims they have been picked on and oppressed. They are very likely to become social like sociopaths, using it for manipulation, and feeling no identity with the herd.

Next comes the magic pill. It cures autism, if you take four a day. It wakes up the brain, makes you social, able to read others, be outward focused, and would sell on the black market for $100 a pill.

We could get rich before it was bootlegged in China, as part of the People's Brain Development Program.

With me it is coffee, strong, black, several pots a day. By myself I could do well without pills, but if a double dose would help me pick up girls in night clubs, that is an incentive for abuse.

So my view is a cure for autism would do the world a lot of damage and little good.

But I am still pro cure. The place it can do the most good is with the normal.

The Autistic problem is with impulse control, they may think it but not act on it.

The Normal problem is with impulse control, it is illegal, immoral, but they might get away with it.

Truely, murders act for the same reason as teen girls shop lift, lack of impulse control and the thrill. The thrill is addictive, and by the time they are caught, for they get dumber as they seek more thrills, they have left a long trail of damage behind.

With some it is gambling, they get a thrill from winning, and then lose everything.

Drink, drugs, taking risks. It is not the act, they are all different, it is the thrill that drives them beyond common sense.

The autistic are low achivers in the field. sitting and spinning the wheel of a toy car, Lego, video games, Wrong Planet. I saw a great change in my life when I bought a motorcycle at 15. New thrills that fired up my brain. It lead to more motorcycle riding. For some reason that thrill buzz helped me fit in with the world.

I can see why other thrill seekers rob banks, shoot people down during the getaway, blow it all on hookers, drink, drugs, then do it again. I can see it, but I do not approve.

In conclusion, everybody is seeking the release that thrills cause. Lack of it causes autism and crime sprees.

The right cure would fill that chemical place, autistics would rise, normals would not be driven, and the world would be a better place.

It is somewhere in there, like the endorphins that cause the runners high, I think it is the one cure for a broad range of human problems.

"Cure them, Cure them all!"

Edit: ... Stupid computor...