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Do people pity autistics/people with aspergers?
yes 60%  60%  [ 27 ]
no 40%  40%  [ 18 ]
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08 Jun 2009, 3:00 pm

Some may pity autistics/aspergers, but they have absolutely no understanding of my life or what autism/aspergers is like.

Sometimes they piss me off with the amount of "kindness" they serve my direction, or to persons with more severe autism/aspergers.

They have no idea the intelligence we possess, or the fact that with a little adaptation, our unlimited potential would be unleashed. Being treated as though we're disabled and are just trying to be normal locks us into a stereotype that blocks any advancement in our development and/or success in life through innovation, invention, or creation.


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08 Jun 2009, 4:42 pm

^ I agree. In my profession i hold no quals, am self-taught, have made a go of things in an individualised fashion and am often shut out by the mainstream arts community who view me as odd, out of kilter with them and too volatile in views and demeanour to be taken seriously. Their way is all VERY mainstream and VERY by the book - and it is the art scene! go figure!!
it's the same as any "industry" and functions in much the same fashion with a pretense that it does not. THe ones who make it are the ones who have best played the game. The game is not even readable or comprehendable to me - so i just do my own thing, am respected by a few, and ignored by the rest.

Misfits are misfits. the shame is, the really interesting people are often misfits. Look at WP here - so much insight and so much novel thinking and doing. SO much that is fascinating - all emanating from amazingly unusual minds.
I wish it was valued more. ANd i wish we did not have to jump through the normal societal and academic hoops in order to prove our worth!

Luckily there are always a fe amazingly decent people around. I try to stick with them.



08 Jun 2009, 9:42 pm

It surprises me when people pity me.



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10 Jun 2009, 10:07 am

Have always been pittied by strangers/locals/neighbours/some police,they assume am a lost cause,and always speak around am to family or support staff,so am left hearing how devastating it is,and how brave am doing to cope this way.Am have had the same treatment off nurses and social workers,there is no 'bravery' in being human and getting on with life.

Also sometimes recieve the old pity classic 'hair ruffling',a way ignorants use to treat disabled adults as kids,it should be treated as disablism but then most of the time it's done by people who have no idea on treating disabled people.

There is nothing worse than when it's done by a more distant relative whom is very nice,but very pitying at the same time-as they're never close enough to get to know self well [they're all in ireland and only get to see them when they come here],am try to stay at sisters house whenever they come over as they always stay at mums/dads house,and don't want to be constantly around it.
Am hate hearing the pity they get as well because have always been treated as a heavy burden on everyone,it's a word that has got painful with every hearing of it.


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14 Jun 2009, 4:26 am

Well some people do, so technically I have to answer yes. Hurrr. I don't have any idea what percent do, though.

But anyway, yeeeah, that's why I don't tell anyone I'm autistic. Recently after I found out about my diagnosis, I got together with a friend of mine whom I've known for a long time, and a few other people she knew, including this one friendly girl. At some point during the day, something or other happened (I forget exactly what. Maybe something to do with the dog, who was big and enthusiastic) which caused the girl some sort of very minor distress. And when the girl wasn't in the room, my friend leaned in and told the rest of us to "go easy on her, she has autism."

Uh, yeah. After that, I decided never to tell. I don't want her (or anyone) to ever say that about me, or think about me in whatever way made her say that.

I guess the honorable thing to do may have been to reveal myself right at that moment and begin the fight to spread understanding throughout my social circle, but I'm sort of a coward. I'm not sure if I would be able to succeed in something like that, anyway. How do you really spread the feeling of true equality into someone's mind? In the end, it's up to them.


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14 Jun 2009, 7:09 am

KingdomOfRats wrote:
Have always been pittied by strangers/locals/neighbours/some police,they assume am a lost cause,and always speak around am to family or support staff,so am left hearing how devastating it is,and how brave am doing to cope this way.Am have had the same treatment off nurses and social workers,there is no 'bravery' in being human and getting on with life.

Also sometimes recieve the old pity classic 'hair ruffling',a way ignorants use to treat disabled adults as kids,it should be treated as disablism but then most of the time it's done by people who have no idea on treating disabled people.

There is nothing worse than when it's done by a more distant relative whom is very nice,but very pitying at the same time-as they're never close enough to get to know self well [they're all in ireland and only get to see them when they come here],am try to stay at sisters house whenever they come over as they always stay at mums/dads house,and don't want to be constantly around it.
Am hate hearing the pity they get as well because have always been treated as a heavy burden on everyone,it's a word that has got painful with every hearing of it.


There's nothing worse than the "burden" card. Particularly because it's out of your own control to change it - you get left with this horrible painful helpless feeling because there's nothing you can do.

At least in my case I only get it from my immediate family and not distant relatives or strangers (because my disability is not apparent on the surface).

Because of the whole "burden" thing, there's nothing I want to do more in life than to find a way to live completely independent of others, so that nobody is relying on me and I am relying on nobody else (except myself) for basic living. I am even considering giving up on ever having a partner or a family in order to achieve this complete independence and separation from others (so I never again have the "burden" thing forced onto me time and time again - it's not something I can live with).


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14 Jun 2009, 7:26 am

I pity those without Autism, really.

We were gifted...chosen if you will. We are blessed.


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14 Jun 2009, 7:18 pm

I was indeed pitied when I was younger. I was bullied a lot, I suppose because of my autism. I still am, in fact. People pity me for that. Even when my feelings of anger towards the person bullying me have long since vanished, others are still thinking about it and are pitying me.

In some ways, this annoys me. In other ways, I feel sorry for them.

In other ways, though, it can be quite useful.


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15 Jun 2009, 2:35 am

I once had a friend who I used to talk to alot, but after I revealed that I had AS, he started treating me differently than in previous times.I have since not talked to him.I had met him on another site, and that same site was where I revealed my AS to a few people on a thread.He was banned from that site a year ago after he had various arguments with the site owners. so he couldnt say anything there luckily. The site owners there and the other posters still treat me the same as they did before I revealed I had AS, which is a good thing.


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15 Jun 2009, 2:38 am

sunshower wrote:
I don't find people pity me.

People are often frustrated by me, angry at me, hurt by me, confused by me, or simply don't understand me. I think I'm too strong willed for people to conceivably pity.


Same thing here. I'm not pitied, I'm pretty sure I'm feared, which is way awesome!



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15 Jun 2009, 4:32 am

kamikaze_penguin wrote:
sunshower wrote:
I don't find people pity me.

People are often frustrated by me, angry at me, hurt by me, confused by me, or simply don't understand me. I think I'm too strong willed for people to conceivably pity.


Same thing here. I'm not pitied, I'm pretty sure I'm feared, which is way awesome!


I'm not sure I'm feared... I don't think I look threatening enough (my preference for wearing bright colours and singing in public doesn't help) :lol: but I'm glad I'm not pitied.

... of course, it's always possible I *am* in fact pitied, but because of my poor ability to read other peoples emotions I just don't pick up on it. :?

As they say, ignorance is bliss :P


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15 Jun 2009, 8:31 am

I don't think so. In fact, I think most people underestimate how bad it can be.



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25 Jan 2010, 8:07 pm

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and how do you feel about it if you believe they do? Does it anger you or do you just let it roll off your back?


People lack compassion, and rarely have patience for what they don't understand. I'd say no. If they do pity us, it's more of an uncomfortable pity.



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27 Jan 2010, 12:31 am

I always was hated, not pittied.


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27 Jan 2010, 12:40 am

I HAVE been envied by many, and a few have tried to own/possess me, but I have never been pitied.



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27 Jan 2010, 3:25 am

My brother and sister have had behaviors that range from unfriendly, neutral to slight friendliness. I don't think they've really pitied me much since i've more or less kept up with my studies, although my sister keeps insulting me every so often (and she's the youngest, me being the older brother =.= ). Usually people don't dread being around me too much, i've been told to pipe down a few times in class (either politely or not), but i've never really felt pitied. Maybe disappointment. But then again, i've never been too good at reading people's mood, so i could be wrong. =/