Possible to make an NT feel what having Autism is like?

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Simulating Autism Possible?
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16 Sep 2009, 11:43 am

These are all great ideas. But I'll have to think about them b/c I have two main issues at least one of which was mentioned (but I can clear it up a bit):

1. The issue w/ NT's generalizing to "everyone w/ autism experiences this". It is a big issue, but you are supposed to do it purely from "your own point of view". So I was planning that if I do this thing, I'd do a simulation that closely or totally matches (as much as possible) what I experience. Than point out many of the other alternatives (ex.'s of what hypo v/ hyper v. mixed sensitive people may/not experience. I'd mainly be using observations of people besides myself I've known on the spectrum anonymously (describe issue not who they are more than gender & age they had issue) & attempt to stress how individual this condition is & that everyone's perception is totally different.
2. Time- I have no idea how long I'll have to do this, so I will have to pick something short or skip it (really thinking about skipping it b/c of risk people will take sim. the wrong way).


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16 Sep 2009, 6:49 pm

Solitary confinement for a lifetime.



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16 Sep 2009, 7:41 pm

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Solitary confinement for a lifetime.


I'd get arrested if I tried that one.


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16 Sep 2009, 11:52 pm

Peko wrote:
Danielismyname wrote:
Solitary confinement for a lifetime.


I'd get arrested if I tried that one.


No you won't -- after all whatever it is you do to them, they are the ones who volunteer to experience it on the first place.

This brings up another point: if an NT shows up to your thing, they are obviously conscious about autism to begin with, so make sure you don't teach them something they already know.



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18 Sep 2009, 5:17 pm

Roman wrote:
Peko wrote:
Danielismyname wrote:
Solitary confinement for a lifetime.


I'd get arrested if I tried that one.


No you won't -- after all whatever it is you do to them, they are the ones who volunteer to experience it on the first place.

This brings up another point: if an NT shows up to your thing, they are obviously conscious about autism to begin with, so make sure you don't teach them something they already know.


This is a thing that covers disabilities not just autism. So their is a slight chance (though I will give you I do think it is very slight) they (whoever would show up) may not know about autism.


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18 Sep 2009, 7:58 pm

lau wrote:
The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time

Author Interviews
The Curiously Irresistible Literary Debut of Mark Haddon
Dave Weich, Powells.com

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Dave: You worked with children with disabilities, but that's a while back in your past.

Haddon: It is. In fact, it's so far in my past it's eighteen or twenty years ago now that autism wasn't a term that was even used much at the time, and only in retrospect do I realize that some of the people I worked with had autism, although they had it much more seriously than Christopher does.


Mark Haddon: First he tackled Asperger's, now the writer is putting Down's syndrome in the spotlight with a new drama
By James Rampton

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The author adds that he worked for some time with people with Down's syndrome when he left university...


I read the first one & never heard of the second before.


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20 Sep 2009, 5:09 am

Peko wrote:
lau wrote:
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I read the first one & never heard of the second before.

I was just mentioning the second item, because it clarifies Mark Haddon's involvement with autism (i.e. it was his work with children diagnosed with Down's syndrome, who in retrospect may well be re-diagnosed as autistic, these days.

Unfortunately, I also missed seeing "Coming Down the Mountain", which was a TV film, shown here on Sunday September 2nd, 2007 on BBC 1 at 9pm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_Down_the_Mountain I would guess it might be repeated, sometime, but as to whether it gets out of the UK...

Anyway, this is the intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvNr5HknPAQ. (Which makes it all more frustrating, that I missed it!)


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23 Sep 2009, 4:42 am

Peko wrote:
They do such things as plan trips, fundraisers, etc. and they mentioned doing discussion panels where you can describe how your disability effects you in college/in general and simulations of your disability. I was considering doing this (its not for awhile I don't think they picked a date yet). But I am not sure if simulating autism (from my point of view) is possible? I can describe my symptoms & take on things pretty well (I think). But simulating (making something like an activity) so NT's can understand what having this condition is like for me...I don't know? :?


I often speak to groups of parents and professionals and do presentations for classes of children and one thing that I do is to provide some experience of sensory difficulties. I cut up pieces of very coarse sandpaper and ask the audience to put them under their clothing before the talk begins. I do a brief introduction and speak briefly about some of the sensory differences people with autism experience and stress that no two are the same. I then have somone flicking lights on and off while I play a pre recorded tape of extremely loud environmental sounds e.g. keys dropping, shoes shuffling on a hard floor, a door slamming etc. While the audience is coping with that, I have them doing a maths test with a warning that the results will be shared with the audience. This only lasts about 3 minutes but stress levels soar. Of course I don't expect people to share their maths performance, but I do talk about how some people coped but others were very stressed and that Autistics may cope with those types of experiences 24/7. This experience has a big impact.