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11 Mar 2010, 2:59 pm

sciencefictiontology isn't all that much different than the rest of the religions. travolta's autistic son's death going from bad press to moneymaking scheme? good business. disgusting, but effective. there are very smart people running that operation.

no sense ignoring a problem just because it's big, though. that part of the discussion belongs in PPR, however, and i won't muck up this thread with it.

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12 Mar 2010, 12:59 pm

Seems to me John Travolta is on a guilt trip, and is trying to do something "nice" to get over it. He was in denial about his son's condition. Now it seems he now believes in autism but doesn't believe in it at the same time as per his so-called religion. I don't understand those Scientologists. I once went to New York for my honeymoon. Saw them all over Times Square trying to promote their religion. I have studied cults and their methods, and Scientology seems to me the most dangerous of them all.

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12 Mar 2010, 1:35 pm

addison wrote:

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You needent take offence. Nobody takes Scientologists seriously.

LOL i remember the south park episode about Scientology. so funny....

That episode was on the other night :lol:

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12 Mar 2010, 6:15 pm

To the person who tried to say Scientology is better than psychiatry -- it's not, if Scientology were as widespread as psychiatry it would do at least as much damage. Really I would rather see people grasping that neither one is a great answer rather than suggestion that because one is bad the other is okay.

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14 Mar 2010, 2:06 pm

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How many Scientologists does it take to change a lightbulb?
None: the lightbulb must find $80,000 dollars to become clear, then it will have the selfdeterminism to change itself.

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14 Mar 2010, 8:32 pm

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Hahaha. Scientology is such a lie. Look at this and this is what they actually believe for real. http://altreligion.about.com/od/mytholo ... a/xenu.htm

That's just the tip of the iceberg, what they do far is worse than what they believe; the Fair Game principal, using members as slave labor, interrogations with e-meters for blackmail and coercion secrets, brain-washing and shunning. Just go watch the "I am Autism" video from AUTISM SPEAKS, and everywhere they say autism, just change it to Scientology! CoS, Church of Scientology, is a scary organization, their members can be dangerous, reputations have been ruined, families torn apart and people have died. I expect this whole thread to disappear.

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15 Mar 2010, 12:53 am

Why don't they target cancer, instead. That's an idea. :idea:

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16 Mar 2010, 5:51 am

CockneyRebel wrote:

Why don't they target cancer, instead. That's an idea. :idea:

Not as profitable. Cancer patients tend to die if you withdraw all their meds and start subjecting them to brainwashing and dangerous BS (or auditing and the purification rundown as scientologists like to call them). People with mental problems and the parents of autistics however can be safely fleeced of their money for years, and in some cases inducted into the cult's elite, the "Sea Org" where they have the privilege of providing slave labour for the cult.

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16 Mar 2010, 12:20 pm

Moony wrote:

You needent take offence. Nobody takes Scientologists seriously.

Tom Cruise and John Travolta do.

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16 Mar 2010, 1:18 pm

Krayt137 wrote:

Moony wrote:

You needent take offence. Nobody takes Scientologists seriously.

Tom Cruise and John Travolta do.

And as a result no one takes them seriously either.

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16 Mar 2010, 1:36 pm

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So, after the massive media coverage of John Travolta's son having autism, and his eventual admission of his son's autism, Scientology appears to be "tagging along":

http://www.myspace.com/lemonade4autism

In Los Angeles, they have set up a fundraiser to raise money supposedly for something called "Love for Autism Association".

This is a concern to me, because Scientology's "cure" for autism, as is their cure for everything, is the pseudo-science invented by L. Ron Hubbard (Scientology courses, dangerous "purification rundown", and other forms of damage to mental and physical health). Basically a "one size fits all" method of helping people. This is just another one of their attempts at recruiting the vulnerable and hopeful.

On the outside, they may claim to know the cause and solution to autism, but on the inside, they "know" that autism doesn't really exist, and is just "a state of mind", as someone like Jenna Elfman would say (She once publicly announced that AIDS was a state of mind).

I remember a story from a woman who fell into their stress test trap and decided to try some courses. When talking to the Scientologists about her son's autism, she was told that her son's condition was caused by something very bad that she did in a past life, and only Scientology can reverse what she did to her son, by finding out what it is she did in her past life.

Beware of Organized Scientology exploiting autism, and spread the message to other autistic communities that their so-called charities aren't to be trusted.

Funny, I thought they didn't believe in autism?

Anyway, yeah, stay away from Scientology. Nothing new here TBH.

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17 Mar 2010, 2:21 pm

Tadzio wrote:

It seems like using vague statistics for constructing a house of cards called the "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders" is more dangerous, and it is spreading contagious analyzing diseases around the world, as if the world needs more disasters.

The DSM spreads diseases? If that's true, then Scientologists spread disease too, since according to them, everyone is infected.

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The American Psychiatric Association has a very nasty habit of disparaging every group that questions its flimsy confusion between statistics and science, and the creating of a big batch of pseudo-diseases.

"Statistics" is a science.

Tadzio wrote:

....L. Ron Hubbard look like beautiful classics.

...of fiction.

Tadzio wrote:

I hope Ethan Watters' new book "Crazy Like Us: The Globalization of the American Psyche" helps to raise the question of the "atheistized" religions of [insert random dead philosopher].

The book involves the export of treatments, as well as the export of social diseases (such as anorexia and alcoholism). Are we to assume from this you feel that ASD is a social disease; that it would not exist but for Western consumption or other societal pressure? Also, Scientology also attempts to export it's disease.

Since you seem fond of questions... Is it worse to export a single disease that everyone has, or a multitude of diseases that many have?

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22 Sep 2010, 4:12 pm

hey, danieltaiwan, i read that article, wow, really, REALLY. scientology is a real fail. even though i do believe aliens exist. but a galactic overlord, what are these idiots smoking(':lol:')

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23 Sep 2010, 1:41 pm

Of course. The celebrities, our Reservoir of "Entertainment and 'Normalcy'", want to "cure" us of our "affliction". Sure, there isn't anyone in my class who enjoys special education, literature, genetic diseases, non-profit work, anime, manga, and writing as much as I do, but I would rather be a literature-loving, imaginative writer who loves little kids with genetic disorders than an annoying, immature, bullying delinquent that inhabits my school.

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23 Sep 2010, 1:53 pm

Moony wrote:

Nobody takes Scientologists seriously.

You mean the people that aren't part of it and wish they were more important so as to be recognised by this highly powerful organisation. Aspies are to Scientology what the blacks, whites and Jews are to the Italian mob - nothing. To be in Scientology, you have to have certain beliefs as well as a massive sum of money and in the Italian mob you have to be 100% Italian.

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23 Sep 2010, 5:46 pm

LET MY ASPIES GO... So speaketh Lord Xenu.

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