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10 Jun 2011, 12:33 am

I found something!

Autism Genocide Clock

hope this helps :)



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10 Jun 2011, 12:40 am

Yes the urgency of a possibility. One of the greatest grass roots distractions plaguing progress. And yet no one is discussing a womens right to know or rights to her body. I guess that makes me a Nazi sympathizer. HEH! Ultimately it comes down to the law. The law says a women can abort and regularly she has a right to know. Change the law but don't interfere with other advocacy of compassionate premises.


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10 Jun 2011, 7:49 am

what is this proof going to acomlish.this letter your going to right,who are you going to give this to that is going to stop autism speaks from practicing abortion.dont most people at AS believe autism is caused by envirmntal factors anyway,why then would they be practicing abortion.autism cant be diagnosed in the womb yet and autism is still a hypothetical personaity type as apposed to say downs syndrome thats linked to the trisomy 21 gene or edwards and the trisomy 18 gene


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10 Jun 2011, 8:52 am

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what is this proof going to acomlish.this letter your going to right,who are you going to give this to that is going to stop autism speaks from practicing abortion.dont most people at AS believe autism is caused by envirmntal factors anyway,why then would they be practicing abortion.autism cant be diagnosed in the womb yet and autism is still a hypothetical personaity type as apposed to say downs syndrome thats linked to the trisomy 21 gene or edwards and the trisomy 18 gene
i wanted to clarify 1 point.i dont mean to say autism is not a disorder,im the type who is offended when people say autism or aspergers is a disorder or disease.what i meant was there is no scientific link yet.i do believe autism is genetic but science hasnt proven that yet,so why would as be doing abortions


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10 Jun 2011, 10:53 am

Are you talking to me?


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10 Jun 2011, 11:00 am

yes i was you made the post


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10 Jun 2011, 11:07 am

Any group participating in abortion issues as an organization strategy is tied to abortion matters. It is a conflict of interest with other issues. My organization is a general inclusion and opportunity facilitator. I do not have the authority especially with becoming a government contractor in premise with the hired professionals to come to become a abortion advocacy organization. If a consumer such as myself asked me about the issue and sought to prevent it I'd enforce the same policy. Someone must seek to change the laws on their own as it conflicts with other issues of importance. For me to combine abortion and employment inclusion in public relations would then guilt the public into getting my way with public awareness. It is highly unethical and creates resentment along with forces views.

In the last few days I've been in contact with media and the Chamber of Commerce and all is a go for the Humboldt Includes campaign I put together. Simply I cannot risk this campaign or inclusion potentials with spite and conflict of interest. Also I believe compassion is important and pride based anti-abortion seems to revolt against that as a form of pity to protect the image of autism for abortion issues.


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10 Jun 2011, 11:27 am

you did not answer the question,and i dont understand this post.Q# 1 why would a org. that believes autism is envirmental be doing or promoting abortion.Q#2 there is no way at this point to do prenatal testing for autism.Q#3 why and how can our net links stop this anywany.for once will you give a straight answer


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10 Jun 2011, 11:37 am

I just will not give an answer that you want. My sole premise here is sociological studies. A study forced upon me based on an attack on my organization by pride advocates who attacked my organization. I believe I have all of the sociological ammunition I need to not only defend against another one but the annihilation politically of any such attempts to prevent inclusion human rights. The notion of dignity is used in what seems to manifest as an insecurity but as bias to insure the image of autism for the issue of abortion politico.

My studies are not about the science of autism. Simply the issues and psychology thereof. It is my job to protect the means by which compassionate inclusion can take place to insure and enhance quality of life. I also believe it is of the best interest of national inclusion pursuits that Ari and his ASAN be forced back in the sociopolitical war when preventing otherwise creative compassionate marketings about autism that show the truth of isolation and exclusion for instance.

The ASAN has awaken a giant and the giant is hungry for battle.


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10 Jun 2011, 11:45 am

ok so your trying to show another group that AS doesnt do abortion.i now understand your post.that is a suficient answer,thank you


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10 Jun 2011, 11:47 am

I have no idea who does abortion unless I am aware of it or am told specifically. My agenda is INCLUSION and the protection of that HUMAN RIGHT which requires COMPASSION.


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10 Jun 2011, 11:56 am

ASAN used war language but so did others about autism. It was originally about overcoming barriers. Yet others made it out to be something to be a victim of. So the some of them that play victim of good intentions that did a battle with me and entirely retreated made me aware of other issues of importance pride has harmed. I believe ASAN has done a great deal of damage and it's time to take some of the land back they attempted to conquer that limited compassionate expression.

I seemed to have been drafted but I am a general in the war concerning autism. A sort of metaphoric sociopolitical play on words. So I will keep producing YouTube videos and launch AutismAdvocacyNetwork.com as a media PR component of my organization.

Come get some ASAN.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-u87agJunY[/youtube]


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10 Jun 2011, 1:41 pm

the intent behind prenatal scanning is enough proof.



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10 Jun 2011, 4:55 pm

if people wan to abort after prenatial testing (unless deeply rooted in our coding dna such a test would be incredibly hard to do before the legal limit of 12-14 weeks,)
then i think they have the right, as long as it is within the legal limit, i would say that allowing the legal limit to be ignored is the real issue here.


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10 Jun 2011, 4:56 pm

OK. If that's the case but abortion politics should not interfere with the image and idea of autism in society for the compassion needed for inclusion and quality of life. Advocates have tried to control the image and idea of autism in society for the abortion issue which leads on into women rights conflicts. Therefore it is a conflict of interest with freedom of speech, quality of life and inclusion human rights. The pride agenda in it's central most parts has combined the issues while calling certain expression styles discriminatory when they were not.


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10 Jun 2011, 5:01 pm

untill a conscoiusness forms in the fetus i see no reason to make special gestures one way or the other, a normal baby can be aborted so should an as or any other deviation.

abortion politics and prenatal testing goes hand in hand, if not directly then by causality, we cannot look at one, at all, without looking at the other.

the perception of deviation is at the heart of this issue, long before all else, as prenatal testing probably wouldnt even have been attempted if the p[erception had been different.
it is unfortunately as good as impossible to do anything about in any society i have seen to date.


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