vaccines certainly cause autism 100% by design

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You don't understand genetics, or germ theory, at all, do you, Sanch? (Unless, of course, you honestly believe that genetic engineering of diseases has been going on for well over a thousand years, in which case there's not a lot we can do for you...)

Agreed...

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Didn't I say before that this was the risk of Bill Gates opening his mouth?

No, we don't think vaccines and autism are not correlated because Billy Gates says so. We are pretty effing sure that they are safe because the fraudulent study of Wakefield lead many other studies to be done and they found no link between vaccines and autism.

Meanwhile, your conspiracy theories are causing harm to society and you are in a way causing deaths.

Bill Gates is in the Illuminati and has an army of brainwashed slaves? I do hope this post is tongue-in-cheek.

i hereby nominate vacineskill for the Veilky Mudak award, and the NWO is load of crap, so can someone close this thread, and end this madness.

When I really think about it, I would rather be an aspie than die from polio any day. WOO for being ravaged by chemicals!

When you get injected with a vaccine that contains an adjuvant, it works by stimulating an immune response. This is what fries your brain. Why would i go to penn and teller for information about vaccines ?

Its mainstream news that Glaxo Smith Klein and Baxter among other vaccine manufacturers, have been caught putting weaponized forms of avian and swine flu into the vaccines in order to cause epidemic and sell more vaccines.
Just google, "Baxter releases weaponized avian flu"

Ive read the elitists own puplications admitting that they use vaccines (as well as poisons in the food and water) to carry out population reduction on a long term level. Cancer and life threatening disease rates have increased by 1000%. When you have such a huge population even a slight reduction in fertility worldwide would have a huge effect on population. And when you take into account planned parenthood and all the babies being aborted. Now 51% of african american people in this country were never born murdered by abortuaries. when you add all these pieces of the equation together you can see a concerted effort to reduce population.
Vaccines are just one part of it but an important part. Are we gonna take these vaccine corporations word for it and trust them that what they are putting in the vaccines is safe for our kids?
These are the corporations that spend billions in lobbying to get their product passed using rigged double blind studies by the FDA and other bought and paid for universities? The FDA is currently facing more lawsuits because of lethal and or harmful drugs they have legalized than any other organization or government body in the world. They are known for rigging the testing to get deadly food additives such as Aspartame, Sacharrin, sucralose, MSG, High Fructose Corn Syrup, and others passed.
We know they have passed hundreds of prescription drugs that theyve later had to recall because of mass death. Not to mention all the ones that take 20 or 30 years to give you cancer that will never be recalled. half of the country is on some form of prescription drug. Its no wonder that out immune systems are completely fried.
But in the 500 billion dollar a year industry of vaccine/pharmaceuticals Its no wonder they poison you with pills that are designed to only treat the symptom of your problem and make them money.

Your parents will ALWAYS try to justify what they did to you. The fact of the matter is, they believe the doctor has their best interest in mind when it is actually all about profit and keeping you from achieving true health.
If people were truly healthy we would no longer need doctors. Everyone knows if you want to truly heal You dont just take a pill and continue eating all processed foods and drinking soda all day, and expect our bodies to be healthy. Thyour body and mind you cannot just take a pill. You have to have lifestyle changes and most importantly diet changes. it takes weeks even months to get Your body and immune system back on track. is is the flawed thinking of most americans. They refuse to change their destructive lifestyle and would rather just go get pills every time they have a health problems.

All health problems in this world today are 99% caused by, environmental exposure/ what we eat or what we dont eat, throughout our lives, only 1% is genetics.

All vaccines do this.


No, it doesn't.

They are still much better than the conspiracy theorist crap you are getting your 'info' from.



No, it isn't. And it is not true either. It is BS.


Top result is naturalnews.com - a Scientologist crap site, you fail.

No, you didn't. You are either lying or you are so gullible that you read some bullsh*t stuff from some bullsh*t conspiracy site.


No, they didn't.


ARRGGH, please mods, ban this troll, ban his IP as well, some idiots may actually believe it, and stop vaccinating, which will cause true deaths. This sort of ramblings are poisonous and cause real harm to people. A troll that causes deaths is not a funny troll.


Naturalist BS. Even if this was true (and it isn't, because you forgot to mention Virus and Bacteria) It is irrelevant, autism may as well be in that 1% (which is a huge amount of health issues considering the large variety of them there is). And even if autism was in the 99% caused by environmental factors, vaccines are not one of them, that has been confirmed plenty of times.

Let me be the first on this thread to say you raise many good points.

On the other hand, there was surely autism before vaccines. Thomas Jefferson was surely not vaxxed, but many would argue that he's autistic. Or was autistic, anyway. Unless faking all his biographies is part of the plot to make people think vaccines are safe.

If vaccines cause autism, then getting rid of them (which I certainly wouldn't complain about!) will rid the world of something so wonderful its loss could never be mourned sufficiently if a thousand people wept nonstop for a year. In light of that, I have to be cautious about saying they're utterly useless.

But why would anyone think they cause it when it runs in families, has a high concordance rate in identical twins and is present from birth in many if not most or even all cases. You know what convinced me that vaccines from when I was a toddler could absolutely NOT have caused it in me? Watching videos of myself as an infant.

Vexcalibur, do you realize you're calling for someone to be entirely banned from this site for having an opinion you don't agree with?? Seriously, we don't ban people for being stupid.

It's not the vaccine itself that is being blamed, it's the fact that vaccines contain mercury, a well established neruo-toxin. Why do they put mercury in the vaccine? Vaccines do prevent many infectious diseases that used to ravage the world. But they do not need to contain mercury. It's easy to argue, as the video does, that vaccination saves lives from death by infectious disease. But why do we inject mercury over and over into infants and toddlers?

They've actually significantly reduced the amount of mercury used in vaccines. Most don't have more then trace amounts now.

It is not an opinion, it is an outright false statement that is generated from ignorance and it kills people.

I am intolerant against antivaxers, their message is the worst message in the world, and the thing is that this guy is 100% likely a troll anyway. Not a real member, but somebody who took 'vaccineskill' as name and started to put random nonsense, his only two posts are this. That you took his message seriously shows how dangerous this idiot is.

Trolls are not allowed in this forum.



a) Please don't repeat the same post in two different places.

b)
Mercury = Hg - The element, a metal, this is what is used in thermometers.
Methylmercury = [CH3Hg]+ = "well established neuro toxin"
Ethylmercury = C2H5Hg+. Not a toxin

Ethyl mercury is what you get after metabolizing thimerosal, it is a metabolite, which kind of means that the body is ready to treat it - .

Thiomersal (C9H9HgNaO2S) is the preservative. Science has repeatedly failed to show that Ethylmercury is as toxic as Methylmercury. In fact, there are no indications at all that tell us that Ethylmercury is toxic at all. Nevertheless, due to the unjustified hysteria (mostly because of Wakefield's fraudulent "study"), Thiomersal has stopped being used in vaccines 'just in case' in US and Europe years ago. Autism diagnosis rates went largely unaffected after the change.





There's no debate about Mercury injuring the brain. However, misuse of terms like "Mercury" to describe a compound is very misleading. Ozone (O3) is toxic and a very different molecule than molecular oxygen (O2) which is necessary for our life. They both use the same element but are different molecules. You don't go around calling Ozone Oxygen.

Using the word "Mercury" instead of specifying between words like Thiomersal, Ethylmercury and Methylmercury is a traditional weapon in the pseudo-scientific arsenal of anti-vax groups. They love to make you think that vaccines are as toxic as the Mercury fumes that hat makers had to inhale, so that they can sell you the very expensive, ineffective, dangerous 'chelation' therapy as a sort of 'cure'.

Another tactic is to pretend that vaccines are the same as they were 20 years ago. The hysteria Wakefield's fraudulent study caused led to the removal of Thiomersal, but anti-vaxers pretend like that never happened.

This statement is not entirely accurate.

In point of fact, autism diagnosis rates increased, rather dramatically, after the change. It wasn't until after large parts of the world had removed thimerosal from their formulations, just in case, that the press began puffing up this supposed "autism epidemic."

It may be worth noting, in this context, that a) diagnosis criteria changed in 1994, which would logically result in more people being diagnosed, and b) it takes time for the new criteria to sweep the old aside - neuropsychologists are human, too, and just as prone as anyone else to holding onto old ideas in the face of change. As I have noted elsewhere, the remarkable part is that it took so long after the publication of DSM-IV for the rate of diagnosis to shoot up...

Even if vaccines cause autism, we still better up using then. You have just no idea vaccineskill what vaccines protect us against, no idea...

Global warming denier are about the same, with a dangerous irrationnal denying of what science show, but we certainlly can banning them though.

In the case of vaccineskill we may have a troll though.

Well, that's all well and good, but what you fail to realize is that although you think his beliefs are ridiculous enough to brand him a troll because no one could think something so stupid, people do think something so stupid. My mother thinks exactly this, and I have to live with it every time I say anything even vaguely positive about being on the spectrum. Don't think for an instant that this is a troll belief. This is an actual position actually taken by actual people who believe what they are saying. vaccineskill almost certainly believes that he's trying to get the truth out about a sinister conspiracy doing bad things to children. He actually wants to be a hero and thinks he is. Trust me. I know how this thinking goes. Maybe you only know it as a caricature that no one could actually believe, but I know that these people's motives are pure, their hearts are in the right place and they are desperate to prevent suffering and save the world from a great evil.

We don't ban people for believing dangerous things, either. Nor is this the worst message in the world. This world is full of holocaust deniers, white supremacists, Scientologists and doctors who think you can't be an Aspie if you don't act like Rainman. It may be a bad message, but it is NOT the worst one in the world.

I think it's safe to say that right or wrong, you're a fanatic about this, just like vaccineskill, and dedicated to your beliefs unwaveringly and with a religious faith. That doesn't make you wrong. It also doesn't make you right. I hate having to tell people off for making my side look bad, so to speak.

Vex is working for the Illuminati.