CDC & Autism

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My 'devil's advocate' comment was in reference only to myself here - not the issue. I am the 'devil's advocate' for pushing discussion on the issue.

I only coincidently learned about vaccines in the last 6 months by sharing with yahoo groups my successes wher I live. One of the aspie members called me a fraud who was a mother of what she called a recovered person with autism then a few months later the whole vaccine politic was called a fraud. I am not sure why people are mean and so angry and I am not psychic to know the CDC.

Keep asking questions. Eventually I will loose interest in this topic all together and focus on another interest. I am not sure why asking questions is bad.

Jenny McCarthy has been at the vaccine debate much longer than 6 months!

I injected myself into the vaccine debate - wow - almost nine years ago, just before my daughter was born. I know we've danced around this issue before. I'm not surprised that you encountered someone with a 'recovery from autism' story. Bear with me here - let me give you my theory now that we have a bit better of an understanding of each other. (And no, I have no evidence or facts... this is theory which is where all science begins. I have had nine years of research and thought put into it. )

There are people on one side saying vaccines caused my childs autism - symptoms appeared after his/her shots. Some of these people have claimed that their vaccine injured children have been 'cured'.

The other side says vaccines do not cause autism. Autism is neurological developmental disorder - a vaccine cannot alter the hardwiring of the brain. Autism cannot be 'cured' with diet and supplements anymore than any other systematic disorder can be.

I say that both are correct. I do believe the parents reports. Parents know their child best. If a parent reports that their child was 'normal' and then in the few days after vaccination regressed into speechlessness, withdrawal and meltdowns I believe their observatons. Who would know better? That sounds like an accute onset of something drastic and I think it should be treated as such. Telling a parent that they are just in denial and that the autistic symptoms were there all along is the worst kind of bias. I'm sure there are some that have done that but I do not believe that all parents are that ignorant. I knew from the day my daughter was born that something was 'different' and I've found that many parents of truly autistic kids felt the same way. These vaccine hating parents are reporting something different.

What I think is going on here is that there is a vaccine injury occuring in a large number of kids - those numbers did spike when the super combo vaccines went into general use - 6-8-10 vaccines in a single shot. Perhaps it is not a particular ingredient (like Thimerosal... ) but rather the effect of so much toxin in an infants system at once causing some sort of auto immune/inflammatory response that mimics true autism in presentation. If this is the source of vaccine injury 'autism' then, yes, it possibly can be controlled, treated and even cured.

Vaccines are not rewiring kids brains. Kids are not 'getting autism' from vaccinations. I think the medical community needs to take a hard look at possibly diagnosing suspected vaccine injury differently. It needs its own terminology and it needs to be differentiated from true autistic disorders. I think they are looking at two radically different conditions but treating them as the same thing. Jenny McCarthy's kids very well might have been 'cured' but I suggest that they never had true autism in the first place.

I think all kids should still be vaccinated and there is no reason why the pathogens of a vaccine cannot be introduced more slowly - as they have been in the past, successfully, without much incident. I think, in the name of immunity, we may have found the infant immune system threshold and need to step back from our overly aggressive approach. There is no need for an 8-in-1 except in the profits of a very select few pharma firms and in the name of convenience. My doctor was quite peeved at the recordkeeping it took to keep my daughters vaccine schedule straight because I stretched it out to the limit. Too bad - it wasn't convenient for me either coming in every month for a year but I'm confident that my daughter is safe in both ways even though she is an Aspie. She's an Aspie because she inherited a family trait - not because of something else.

This seems to be a very polarized issue - very black or white. Why is no one saying -' wait a minute, there might be a third option here to consider.'?

And that is my final question!

I have always asked lots and lots and lots of questions. It has not been well received. In childhood it made me a 'smart alec', in adulthood it makes me passive aggressive. That somehow, asking 'obvious' questions was a form of snobbery and condensation. In forty plus years no one ever once thought that I just needed more information.

Those nano-bots in the vaccines are backfiring and re-writing brain sectors!

Oh no... they got you too! *que panic in the streets*

It is a scientific fiction joke. Now onto communa-K with the autism alien mother ship. Talk later.