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21 Mar 2011, 8:05 pm

We can all look forward to the return of the smallpox vaccine, too. The World Health Organization declared smallpox cured in 1972 and vaccination ceased... too bad there was a small outbreak in Maryland in 2008;

http://www.cdc.gov/eid/content/17/4/pdfs/10-1010.pdf

Vaccines definitely have their uses. They are neither all good nor all bad.

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22 Mar 2011, 12:27 am

Vaccineskill is a troll guys. Don't feed him. Just ignore him.

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22 Mar 2011, 4:10 am

ducky9924 wrote:

Vaccineskill is a troll guys. Don't feed him. Just ignore him.

No, people like that genuinely are out to preach about the evils of modern medicine, and that everyone needs to switch to an organic diet and vitamin supplements and see a holistic con artist or witchdoctor. I've met these kind of people IRL and they are even nuttier than the present themselves online.

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22 Mar 2011, 9:29 am

Those who are interested in the vaccines debate may wish to follow "Lizditz" on Twitter:

http://twitter.com/lizditz

She spends a great deal of time and effort on scientifically debunking the vaccines myth.

Hehe... just had a thought... has anyone found evidence of autism in cattle and dogs following vaccination? :wink:

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22 Mar 2011, 9:43 am

obvious troll is very obvious. to all that fed him, shame on you :P.

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22 Mar 2011, 10:02 am

O_o... no shame in having an opinion, troll or not...

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22 Mar 2011, 7:20 pm

vaccineskill wrote:

We did not vaccinate our child because of the staggering evidence that shows not only the toxicity of the adjuvants and other preservatives in the vaccines such as squalene, and thimerasol.

vaccineskill wrote:

Use your immune system by eating live farm fresh foods and foods that boost your GI flora,take an acidophillus supplement. give your body what it needs.

Good advice. Supplements are some of the most regulated products on the market. Much more so than things like vaccines and medication. They don't contain any toxic material or preservatives at all.

:lol:

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22 Mar 2011, 7:55 pm

First of all I'd like to remind you that calling people stupid and trolls is still against the rules.

As John_Browning already mentioned the OP's position is not unique or unheard of. You can debate this position and try to educate him without resorting to insults. Or you can just ignore this thread.

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22 Mar 2011, 11:05 pm

John_Browning wrote:

ducky9924 wrote:

Vaccineskill is a troll guys. Don't feed him. Just ignore him.

There are idiots who deny the holocaust too, but if you run across one online, you're got a 95% chance it's just a troll. Same goes with this non-sense.

Even if he actually believes this nonsense, you can't win against stupid. To debate with stupid, you have to lower yourself to their level to communicate. Once there, they have much more practice being stupid then you.

So once again... ignore the troll/idiot.

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23 Mar 2011, 12:47 am

ducky9924 wrote:

John_Browning wrote:

ducky9924 wrote:

Vaccineskill is a troll guys. Don't feed him. Just ignore him.

These people usually aren't trolls- almost all of them genuinely believe in what they are preaching and genuinely want as many people as possible to share their views. The sad thing is that about half of them have ASD kids!

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23 Mar 2011, 7:01 am

I will put my story out there.

I have 2 children who are not vaccinated. I planned to vaxx and my son even had his first vaxx. It is what happened after that vaxx that stopped us ever vaxxing again.

He had a severe anaphylaxis reaction and ended up in hospital. Due to his young age (2 months) the excess fluid that his body produced to fight off the reaction bust his hydroseal and also pooled in his abdomen and around his brain. We almost lost him. He has had no more vaxx's including the booster for the one vaxx he did have so effectively he is unvaxxed now. My daughter has never had even one. The risk for us is too great.

I am not anti-vaxx. I am now delayed vaxx. I think vaxx's are good as they provide herd immunity but they should be delayed so the schedule starts at around 1 year of age, not 6-8 weeks old. In some countries the vaxx schedule starts at birth!

I think my son's autism is unrelated to his vaxx reaction but i think he has some other cognitive issues caused by it.

On a seperate note, how many adults go and get their booster for these diseases? Most adults forget and are then susceptible.

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23 Mar 2011, 11:31 am

Solvejg wrote:

On a seperate note, how many adults go and get their booster for these diseases? Most adults forget and are then susceptible.

About a year ago I got a TDaP. I'm not sure what other ones are really important to get.

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23 Mar 2011, 1:07 pm

The only booster recommended for adults in the US is tetnus and even then, you need to present with an injury that warrants it. The only vaccine recommended across the board for everyone, yearly, is flu.

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23 Mar 2011, 2:39 pm

Solvejg wrote:

Well what do you know, someone concerned about Vaxxes that doesn't sound crazy. I'm amazed.

Yeah, no ones saying Vaxxes don't have side effects. Nothing you put in your body doesn't. Shoot, vitamin C can have side effects. And lets face it, everyone reacts differently. Your family might have some sort of genetic vulnerability to them, which puts you in that small percentage of the population that CAN"T get vaccinations and relys on the rest of us to keep you safe.

For the vast majority of us though, the benefits outweigh the risks greatly. While your son had problems, I'm not sure he wouldn't have if he had it latter. Given the sheer number of vaccines we have to take, I can understand starting so early. Although if they have any family history of vaccine issues, definitely post-pone it for safety.

As for adult boosters, the important ones last for several decades, but yeah, some of us have been bad. -shifty eyes-

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23 Mar 2011, 4:28 pm

draelynn wrote:

O_o... no shame in having an opinion, troll or not...

The OP's opinions are not only scientifically inaccurate but dangerous. "Vaccines cause autism" is not a fact, it's complete and utter BS that was made up by an attention whore.

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24 Mar 2011, 1:12 am

OH GOD YOU GUYS I JUST HEARD OF THIS SCARY CHEMICAL CALLED DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!

every single person with autism has been found to be addicted to this substance! i bet you can even find it in vaccines!

OH GOD RUN

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