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It's always frustrating to me that we are basically seeking the same things. My AS husband is in a management position and has created a stronghold for people who might not be NT to succeed. By fighting his way to the top, he has succeeded in showing people the benefits of what AS has to offer. While there are some NT's that have actively sabotaged and bullied him, at times when he wasn't even aware of it, there are others that have said when he speaks, it is like God shining down upon him because he just has so much information and is so intelligent. They realize they are better off with his employment and they find him fascinating.
This is the kind of thing we want. We have to show people the amount of skills we have to offer. In-fighting is an NT problem. That is why they can't manage to get things done. So by thinking logically and non-emotionally we can advance. But with in-fighting and finger pointing we are no better. This frustrates me.
We can DO incredible things: I was in Time magazine, for example, because of one of my accomplishments.
And we can fail incredibly in the NT world: I was hired by a fancy corporation because of my skills and Time magazine article, and I failed miserably because of lack of communication skills and trying to navigate the political aspect of a corporation.
I think the goal should not be to remove NT's from the playing field, but to encourage the ones who want progress to see the benefits of autism. And to stand up to the NTs who are ignorant because they lack compassion and understanding.
The best way to accomplish this is united I believe. Therefore, I get very frustrated.
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I would put aside my differences if he would put aside his agenda and get to work at achieving more goals! I really feel like we can be independent without any dysfunctionality like we have when no others like us are around. But one thing I wont cater for is, blanket hatred. If he wants to be superior the best way to deal with those who hurt him are to ignore them, the ultimate insult. It would take something insidious towards us as a united community to make me want to fight back, yet he can't tell when I am talking about autism speaks and when I am talking about him. I hope you do see us united in cause sooner rather than later.
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I didn't associate you with autism speaks at all. That was absolutely the opposite of what I would say if I ever said anything. This comment was nothing about you. You really must think the world centres around you if every comment I make has something to do with you. Also i didn't say bad evidence, In fact I thought you would have realized that you have used no evidence. As for fascism, yes I damn did. I said all your comments amounted to no more than hate speech. Now could you tell me where there is a contradiction?
well if you discuss autism supremacy you are discussing my point of view, idk why you would try to talk behind my back in plain sight and exclude me. you really don't want me to prove you wrong do you? you really don't want to hear me say my side because you are afraid of the strength that my philosophies have.
I didn't talk about autism supremacy at that time. I was making an offhand quip about the disgusting, self-effacing organisation that is autism speaks. It makes sense to segregate different arguments.
Also I do want to prove you wrong because the one thing that is wrong is your hateful philosophy of supremacy. And what the hell? Strength? I already said it makes no damn sense.
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I didn't talk about autism supremacy at that time. I was making an offhand quip about the disgusting, self-effacing organisation that is autism speaks. It makes sense to segregate different arguments.
Also I do want to prove you wrong because the one thing that is wrong is your hateful philosophy of supremacy. And what the hell? Strength? I already said it makes no damn sense.
well I am beginning to see that this is a useless argument. people like you just won't be convinced. you can't even see whats good for you. oh well I'll say I tried.
I cn't bliev the self-righteous...
Look, don't you get it? You were wrong. I never associated you with Autism Speaks. People don't just make one argument on a thread! Are you so arrogant that you can't even make proper arguments, only make pathetic quips that any guy could make on youtube? All this 'it's hopeless' rubbish is is an attempt to hide the fact that you can't make an argument because you are wrong about your supremacist viewpoint. Whilst you rattle on about 'people like you' with infuriating self-rightousness, I am trying to reach out to you and tell you what you think is wrong.
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I cn't bliev the self-righteous...
Look, don't you get it? You were wrong. I never associated you with Autism Speaks. People don't just make one argument on a thread! Are you so arrogant that you can't even make proper arguments, only make pathetic quips that any guy could make on youtube? All this 'it's hopeless' rubbish is is an attempt to hide the fact that you can't make an argument because you are wrong about your supremacist viewpoint. Whilst you rattle on about 'people like you' with infuriating self-rightousness, I am trying to reach out to you and tell you what you think is wrong.
how do you expect me to believe that I am wrong when that would deny me revenge on the people I hate and success for myself. I'll even admit that I'm wrong but it costs a lot to be right and I'm a social outcast loser so whats right to me? do you think I have got anything to lose by having my opinion? do you really think I'm gonna change my mind when this was my idea for a last stand? It might just work too considering how stupid NTs are anyway.
They aren't stupid. I don't think you are a loser because in my bones it is wrong to give up on any one. That is the real thing you were searching for. A clear-headed person who did not spurn you indefinitely and without reason! I may show horror and disgust but that is because it is true. It was wrong! Think of the innocent who never harmed any of us. Think who you might have simply thrown in to the crowd of the hated mistake because you considered them as one, monolithic group. They do exist and I know some of them. I will give you no revenge. Vengeance is had on individuals, not groups. And you will get success I assure you if you work with me and not against them. So many of them hate groups as the source of all their problems. Do not be so unwise as to add to their number and taint our own people with having someone who would be hateful. I swear, if you stick to uplift and equality, and abhor Supremacism then we will have our dawn because together we can get out of this hellhole we were informally put in if we stick together and hate no one. And when we stand high then you will see with me those good individuals in the crowd you would have surely destroyed in your revenge.
It's immoral to not treat people as individuals in how you feel about them and you should only talk about groups when you have a damn good comprehension of what people feel, impossible in the confused and controversial climate of today. And don't you dare talk about problems we have. I know what issues we have as a community and an autism supremacy argument is the best way to lead to the worst outcome. If anything never expressing that argument would be the best outcome even if we were all superior because humility makes you less complacent and complacency destroys superiority.
The second for those who are smart enough is saying that we are autistic if we want to argue that we are just different. Autism is a word dreamed up by Leo Kanner to describe our personal isolation from other people as innate. As I have seen the last thing that we really want is to be alone and that searching for contact is a priority whenever we are not dealing with the self-loathing created by out confusing and terrible childhoods.
If anything I think much of our problems are down to us having a dissimilar cognitive style (thankyou memesplice) from the people around us. It is why we have adapted terribly to the world environment by not being told the right way about what to do as children and afterwards the incapability of dealing with the harsh world of our peers, not being taught the most comprehensive way by teachers and not being told what would be a good time to do this or that in a way we recognise. In the end we retreat from the word in fear or misery, not because we wanted to or that we can't link up with others.
People are very express about what you should do all the time (just take Encyclopedia Dramatica ), that's why we think they seem narrow-minded, but since it is mostly done in a conversational or hurtful way (Again, Encyclopedia Dramatica) that we just don't take it on board. In fact half the time complaints about us are tangentially related to what we must realise, but since it's tangential it doesn't make any damned sense. If we had been raised by people like us and lived around people like us then this could have been avoided I believe. By the time we get to adult age all we are told is that we are worse and misshapen compared to others (despite the nice language it is cloaked up in) and none of us in this part of the forum really believe that. Not even ci, who is advacting cure, thinks he is so wretched. The word autism is a part of what drags us who are capable of being as good as anyone else down into inaction.
I voted - Very Much 42% [ 3 ], I agree that the observation is correct in it's own rationale but not necessary applicable to myself or others but the poster.
I think I am advocating non-absolute ways of perceiving the public relations of cure (modality). That ultimately what enhances personal choices as far as correcting hardships is a matter of human rights and the human condition itself needs a cure here and there. Other then sensory integration and the inability to speak I'm not sure that I grasp what a cure would entail. If I were made to believe that was to remove "self" I can understand the upset but once you mix in abortion politics anti-cure is playing with fire and human rights. I just don't buy into half a** arguments (propaganda) as if I cannot think for myself with the anti-cure mantras as if the pro-cure people are really are out to get me.
Mantras like I am not a puzzle. As if someone called me a puzzle and I should take it VERY personally as if they intended to hurt my feelings.
As far as wretched:
wretch·ed/ˈreCHid/Adjective
1. (of a person) In a very unhappy or unfortunate state.
2. Of poor quality; very bad.
Force me into a school environment and I'd mentally shut down again. Allow me to think and learn in my own ways and yep you got happy. But yes forced into environments, change and expected to learn at the pace of others and you got wretched.
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Personally I think working in a school environment is a thing that we will work in or we will not work in. It is something we can adapt to. Flexibility is something we have when we understand more.
Well it's been a very long time and I will never be forced again so I do not often at all think about it. In fact I'd rather not think about it. I don't want to talk about it. I am very happy that autism is more understood now and people are accommodated for so I do not need to worry about my having to do something to help others in that regard.
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I had a miserable time too you know but I don't just forget about it because of the soul-crushing environment, nor do I say that school is the sum of our suffering. In fact it coulda been quite pleasant in a nicer social atmosphere. That and I don't want to forget about the other people who are going through the school system now. I have so much to tell them. In fact I told one person about how others 'just don't care as much and want to get through the day' among other things and a lot of his problems ended, so I know that I can help.
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