Jenny McCarty and the JRC are bigger threats than Autspeaks

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Then if one kid who is not vaccinated goes to school with kids who are,, then what's the risk?
IF they really work as we are told they do, then the vaccinated kids have NOTHING to worry about...right?

PS- Anyone who listens to advice of corporate whore comedians like Penn & Teller needs help!

also, People who are anti-vaccination really just want the public to be informed about potential risks involved with taking these experimental vaccines, as well as exactly what they contain.
You can't be a fully informed human if you just trust doctors (drug pushers) who get incentives to prescribe medicines and give vaccines. Did you know that US schools get cash from the government for each child they teach that has all of his/her vaccinations?

If you don't know what is in it, why would you ingest it? inject it?

Found this article which mentions Jenny Mccarthy. What do you think?

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/hom ... elebrities

The Narcissism and Grandiosity of Celebrities.
What do Jenny McCarthy, Oprah and Madonna have in common?
Published on June 15, 2009 by Gad Saad, Ph.D. in Homo Consumericus

Doctor_OprahI have always been fascinated by the narcissism and grandiosity displayed by celebrities. Jenny McCarthy is bewildered that the National Institutes of Health is not paying attention to her "proof" that autism is caused by the MMR vaccine. Apparently, it is due to a large conspiracy in part driven by the evil pharmaceutical firms (no doubt, Dr. Evil is the CEO of the conspiratorial consortium). Madonna has claimed that she has used "Kabbalah fluid" to neutralize radiation at a Ukrainian lake. Tom Cruise castigated psychiatry for being pure quackery as he had "studied its history." Suzanne Somers hails her hormone therapy replacement program as an elixir of youth. Deepak Chopra explains to us the causes of disease using a wide range of semi-random new age quackery (see his interaction with the famed evolutionist Richard Dawkins here). The problem has gotten so out of hand that there is now an organization, Sense About Science, that seeks to combat such celebrity-driven idiocy. Recently, Salon.com did the "unthinkable" by publishing an article on the contribution of Oprah to this lunacy. How dare anyone question Oprah's omniscience and omnipotence?
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It's All About Me

You know them—they're all around us. They think they're exceptional, and they're just waiting for you to realize how superior they are. To meet a narcissist is to like one; but to know them over time is to seriously sour on them.


My point in today's post is not to provide rebuttals to the drivel that such celebrities espouse. Rather, I'd like to speculate about possible psychological reasons that drive celebrities to engage in such nonsense.

(1) Celebrities are a self-selected group of narcissists. Whereas it is certainly true that some individuals decide to pursue acting or singing careers for the pure love of the artistic forms in question, the great majority of celebrity wannabes are largely driven by the outcomes (e.g., fame, money, adulation). A recent study by S. Mark Young and Drew Pinsky (yes, this is Dr. Pinsky, host of the Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew) supports the contention that celebrities are narcissists.

(2) The extraordinary attention that is lavished on celebrities (not to mention the outlandish sums of money) makes it easy to succumb to one's hype. People line up for hours to get a glimpse of Tom Cruise coming out of his limousine, and will scream with a visceral religious fervor at his mere sight. Take a narcissist, and feed his or her ego in such a manner twenty-four hours a day, and it is not difficult to guess that Tom Cruise starts to actually believe that he is a superhero (rather than playing one in the movies).

(3) This next point is somewhat speculative so I hope that you'll grant me some leeway. You may have heard about survival guilt, namely the intense feelings of remorse that survivors of a plane crash might experience. A survivor might think: Why did I cheat death when so many others die? What is so special about me that my life was spared? I propose a similar mechanism to explain celebrities' "interventions" in making a better world. I believe that they suffer from a form of existential guilt. They know in the deep recesses of their minds that they are not deserving of the accolades and privileged lives that they lead. One of the ways by which they can assuage this persistent guilt is to demonstrate to the world that they are much more than a "mere celebrity." Hence, they "cure" mental illness; they "eradicate" autism; they "neutralize" radiation! Some of you might have noticed a possible contradiction here: If celebrities are narcissists why would they experience existential guilt? I think that such celebrities are perhaps slightly less narcissistic and hence maintain some elements of self-insight. Think Sean Penn (tortured artist) versus Paris Hilton (oblivious narcissist).

(4) Postmodernism, the most virulent of anti-science dogma, proposes that all viewpoints are welcome and none is privileged. This creates a democratization of opinions. It is apparently "arrogant" to think that psychiatrists, physicists, and epidemiologists might know more about their areas of expertise than say Oprah or Jenny McCarthy. Most celebrities have at best graduated from high school. Hence, it is quite extraordinary that they should feel sufficiently knowledgeable as to "contribute" to complex issues in physics, psychiatry, or medicine. Here is a thought: Entertain us at the movies and in concert halls, and leave the science for scientists. Celebrities might wish to take heed of a famous quote by Confucius: "When you know a thing, to hold that you know it; and when you do not know a thing, to allow that you do not know it - this is knowledge."

You know how some people think that parents who medicate their ADHD kids are taking the easy way out, or have "given up" on parenting? That's how I feel about the majority of parents who send their children to the JRC. These are the kind of parents who probably send their autistic kid off to the JRC, forget about them, procreate to have another child who isn't autistic and live happily ever after. If there are any parents out there who have sent their kid to the JRC but think I'm wrong, I'd like to hear why.

On the flip side, maybe Jenny Mccarthy is doing us a favor by diverting attention away from genetics. I know, I'm reaching.

Can't stand the attention whore Jenny McCarthy. There are quite a number of articles online saying that she no longer believes her child had autism, that she "fixed" him blah blah blah. Just saw her on Chelsea Lately claiming to be the spokesperson for autism. I swear that piece of garbage would use anything to get her face and voice out there, all about her. I was going to post a comment on the E site for that show, but thought, who really cares.

i was talking with a friend of mine yesterday that runs a behavior modification program in massachusetts and he says he has never heard of any bad reports about the JRC.he said the claims people here have made are illegal in massachusetts or would have to be prescribed or administered by a doctor and could not be practiced on a regular basis.this isnt to say that these claims of abuse against the judge rottenberg center are false.the way massachusetts works is that these type of schools generaly take kids from the area of the state the program is sitiuated with sub divisions of beds from ares within the area.so for instance a program in springfield,ma might be aloted 5 beds from springfield,3 beds from northamton or amherst,1 bed each from franklin and berkshire counties.so my friend would have no way of meeting a kid who was at JRC in the past.however regardless the JRC doesnt seem to have a bad reputation at least as far as we know within the state.this leaves a curious question where are all these people from around the US and the world getting this information that people with deep knowledge of the mass dept of mental hygiene dont know.so this is a big mystery.if you got a petition with alot of signatures and sent it to the state senator for the district where canton,ma is in you could start a investigation

The Judge Rotenburg Center. I've heard a lot of things about this place. The aversives are used to electrocute the children, not for a long time, it's a small patch put on their arm. It still causes burns and stuff. They also withhold food from children if they are not doing what they are supposed to be doing.

Personally, as a child who had a lot of problems growing up, I'm not too crazy about the idea. As a child who potentially had Asperger's Syndrome I had a lot of problems understanding certain things adults would tell me or mirroring what I was supposed to do. I remember when I was in choir, the teacher was moving us down so she could move a bench onto the stage, she was trying to direct us and I was growing really confused. She kept asking me to get out of the way and I didn't know what she meant or where to go. She got really frustrated and she took the bench and slammed it into my legs and screamed "Move" and rolled her eyes. When I was younger I had a hard time following directions just by hearing the person, I 'm a visual person. I also have a hard time mirroring other people and I have poor coordination. These people at the center are using these aversives to people with autism and other disorders, I can't even imagine if I was sent there when I was younger and they used those on me. It would probably shut me down, cause me high anxiety and turn me into a zombie.

I used to have a gym teacher in elementary school who always used to scream at me because I did everything wrong in gym class. He traumatized me, it took the fun out of gym for me and he made me feel really stupid.

People who work with children need to be able to teach and help with love that comes from the heart, positive reinforcement and authoritative guidance. I've worked with all kinds of children in my field, it's hard but a child doesn't deserve to be hurt just because they're confused on what to do or forced to starve just because they don't understand what to do.

I'll admit that I don't know a lot about this place but I've heard a lot of bad things from the Internet but I understand that the media has a way of blowing things out or proportions. I also know that my friend who is taking a program in Developmental Services Worker had to do a paper on the center on whether she was for or against it. She was for it but she also studied about it a lot. It doesn't sound right to me but maybe there's more to the story. I know there were a lot of cases filed from angry parents and a couple of deaths in the years past.

Judge Rotenberg Center
JRC-Wikipedia
Judge Rotenberg Center and Autism Rights