An (Urban) AS Community?

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The good thing is that analysis, unlike just clipping articles, is much harder to outsource. You have to have an in-depth knowledge of a subject and language that is hard to acquire for people outside an industry, let alone another country.

If a Hedge Fund wanted to locate in AspieBURG, that would solve everything . In all seriousness, a research business could probably do well, once it's track record is established.

We are also good at disagreeing. Like lawyers in a courtroom, two very different concepts of the evidence are produced.

What can be had now is all one sided.

One can also file as a Friend of the Court, and bring up another view.

I have noticed an Aspie Circle event several times, when people of various view points converge on one set of facts. While the subject gets aspied to death, that circle represents all viewpoints, so a person reading the report would find their own thinking style, and that of those who differ.

The facts do not change, their meaning does due to how they are viewed.

A differance of thought and perception is what we have to sell. Almost every report is pitched to the majority, those with an IQ of under 100.

That does not define the Business and Investor Class who would pay for developed information.

I did some work in education, which is one size fits all, which means mostly wasted. Testing the student, first, would allow for directed learning, shaped to their mind.

Most pre digested information is smelly and brown. Food for thought is a better concept, where the information feed is directed in a way that triggers spontainous leaps of awarness. It is the most common education method in Europe. America is the rote method, with a droning voice of boredom.

Knowing that you are dealing with an ENTP with an IQ of 112, a Taurus, knowing their education, hobbies, life situation, can produce directed information.

Some simple feedback boxes, and it can be further narrowed to what the customer wants.

People hire Life Coachs, to help them reach their goals, and pretend to be happy. Personalized education on many subjects would sell. Computer delivered, not one persons view, from the minds of many, but all directed to one well known student, who wishes to expand their knowledge of many things. NTs, they can deal with diverse.

Aspies I would keep in the back room, they are too narrow for my customer base, but they can supply fragments of the product.

I sell on ebay. every so often I get a question that has nothing to do with what I sell, but that I am seen to hold knowledge. How do I, Where can I find, because I am the closest thing they could find to an expert in the field. Mostly I can give them what they want, a name, a web site, or a mechanical process. Stories of I have been stuck for years, but still trying, I am glad to help. The pure joy of liberation is my reward. Others have done the same for me. A minute of my time frees them from where they have been long stuck.

Even after I quit being a mechanic, except on my own stuff, I still got calls, from mechanics, could you come tell us what is wrong? I troubleshoot well.

The key to all this is when I told people the answer, they realised it was so. They had the parts, just not the correct order. Before they go to fix the problem they know they were told the right information.

That kind of track record, which I have in Machines, cars, motorcycles, computers, and where to find obscure parts, has been highly valued by people who would avoid me otherwise.

I have several quests for expert knowledge on my own. I am an outsider to digital art, and need some. I know what I want, and will know when I find the right person. Finding them is the problem. Finding the expert that can connect us is a process. We both exist, would work well together, I quest.

Most lives of people who do things are filled with the same problems.

Being a network of obscure networks is a business.

When the answers come they are magic.

I think an Aspie community would serve about the same purpose as a Jewish ghetto during the Nazi occupation.

In effect, they would know who to kill and where to find them.

I'd love to believe in AspieBURG (though I'm more an Aspie Acres type, myself, I think an urban situation is more realistic). I really would.

Well, I'll spare you the lecture on there being, basically, no hope for us in today's society. It can't help, can only hurt, and won't even make me feel better.

If you want to look at a city location, I hear Detroit is desperate. I mean potentially hospitable. Apparently the urban homesteading movement is gaining quite a foothold in the urban renewal efforts there. You might have the best of both worlds.

If I were willing to risk my familys' necks in the fight for personhood, that's where I'd go. The Motor City isn't in the position to be too keen to leave any option eating exhaust fumes. Necessity is the mother of acceptance.

I'd imagine, just as most countries have their own china town's it'd be likely that most countries would have there own aspenburgs. Theirs a huge economic advantage to having tie in to different governments.

I think a important task is to see the aspenburg alpha, as a template for future cities.

Also I think folk need to think outside of their own interest in such a concept and ask some very important questions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaf_culture

Just check the article on wiki, it's short but it's an interesting read.

My question is if nt's typically share collective interests despite being unable fixate on anything.

How would a group of aspies share collective interests.

I know it's a strange concept, but my guess is we'd quickly find ways of sharing interest, on a level that only aspies can.

Inventor, do you believe that physical co-location would make it easier to build "networks of obscure networks"?

Just wanted to bump this thread to see if anyone wanted to actually follow through with funding, etc.

14 Days since the OP and I'm already getting requests....

At this point, the idea is in the stage of gathering conepts and discussing objections. I personally think we're a few years out before a location would be acquired.

The best ways I see to move forward with such a concept are:

A) Have small businesses that can be the business portion of the AS community, or mobile jobs that don't require phyiscal presence in a particular location.
B) Strengthen local Aspie meeting groups to find others who might be interested in supporting such a community

I've got a free building in central Auckland. I envisage an X-men consultancy group of highly critical autistics for hire.
We go in, we view the businesses, we recommend the changes, we coin the $$$$ on coke and ladies.
Tom Cruise will play me when the movie comes out.

We need to get an agent and entertainment lawyer for the upcoming reality show

Everything that exists has a Center. It may be the only common factor that unites.

Some are on a person, some a common interest, some on a place. Basing it on an idea, no two share the same. Something fixed and unchanging is needed.

It can be a web site, Wrong Planet works.

Wikipedia is a group effort to a common goal.

Both are broad and information rich, with nothing about how to use the information.

There are works in progress, I watch as Alex translates Robert's Rules of Order into Aspie. Just as NTs needed structure, so do Aspies.

Until Robert came along the only way to hold public meetings was to first get a couple of big guys with clubs. Alex is working on social structure on a one to one, or few, level. I see this as important scientific work, being self funded and directed by a visual video speaking researcher, with a differance of thought and perception.

It is as important as the Deaf Culture, which has to translate spoken and written language into sign, which is a medium of it's own.

So in general, a culture takes a center, and several, as the over group fragments into sub groups. The more they interact, the stronger the bonds. So not just the one, but the parts must stand alone. They give and get support, but only because they continue to exist alone.

Management, Manufacturing, Marketing, Accounting, all can function alone, but when combined around a Corporate Center, become one of those Japanese Transformer deals where they become a giant robot, with great power.

All that power can be wasted if they lack a Product, a Market, that brings a return greater than the Cost.

Products more and more are becoming Ideas, and as I deal in real time, I will hedge on exposing my business plan.

What I can say. It involves lots of machines, and a mass flowing in and out that leaves me looking for a building with a loading dock.

It also involves Knowledge, Talents in the Arts, which cannot live in a warehouse, or under a desk in an office, who also wash clothes, bathe, sleep, eat, and I have trouble keeping up with just myself.

It calls for a structure that a diverse group could function around.

A quick view of costs convinced me I cannot afford it. Just paying four people at low rates, and supporting a building, machines, supplies, the step by step needed to produce Product, Market, and gain Income.

Startup costs + $100,000 a year+ which is $300 a day, just to stand still. Materials consumed cost more.

Now this is a very small business, and four people cannot keep up a 24/7 flow. They would each have to do everything, while working alone, and not even Aspie Apes. Also, to be Managed, Directed, and make sure the Product gets Produced and Shipped every time.

On top of that is the standard paying bribes to the Pope, Grand Iatolla, The Triads, Yakuza, and their State and National copies.

This all amounts to the first step to be able to reach out to the Market, and develop a Customer Base, which is fickle, mostly one time sales, and lack a mind of their own, so if other people say it is great, they will buy it, and perhaps never use it.

Reality lacks reality, but all we can do is Marketing, to convince Customers to Buy, to continue paying off the Mob.

Small office, open six days a week, costs $2,000, plus materials and shipping.

Mostly it is workers, who need it for food, clothing, shelter.

Running the same on Aspie Acres, food can be produced, employment can be on demand, Shelter can be provided.

Wanted, Rural Farm Manager, job includes hovel, planted garden, three hours a day of work, meals, and pays several hundred dollars a month.

Now, That ad would get a million replies.

Labor directed toward more food production and building more hovels, allows it to grow, at very low cost.

Another ad, Writers Workshop, Rural Retreat, an in depth look at writing, publishing, marketing, with a direct introduction to the means of production, and published writers giving talks, only $2,000 for a week of rustic cottage living, with fresh organic food. Book Now! Limited Offer!

I am in Publishing, and what I want is other writers who are poor, a common trait, who will work for food, a hovel, some cheap wine, and the means to get their own work in print, and on the market.

Artists are also needed for illustration, and book designers, Copy Editors, to turn out fake books that can be sold to an unsuspecting public.

In this version I have reduced the out of pocket costs, the on going costs, which means any earnings can be spent on furthering the bad habits of the guilty, who in this case have a Manuscript of at least 75,000 words.

In this case the Center is the means of production and marketing, and something the same to Writers who are a diverse group, Artists, and Editors. It is not about what it pays, but in earning a place in the group by labor to benefit the group. That translates into having the group produce and promote your work. That pays for work long over, and pays, and pays.

Flop or best seller, you got an education, know people, have access, and while we might not treat you very well, everyone else hates you.

My Press, Private Property, will hold your head while you puke, make a profit off of sales of your work, and build more and better hovels.

Writing cannot be cured, it is disgusting, but it can be managed.

Like Lepers, writers naturally seek Colonies of their own kind.

I seek to flow with the natural energy of life.

Pan Aspie ism is a hard concept to grasp. I am sure that Writer, Inventors, Artists, are sub sets, but the whole is still a mystery to me.

What I can identify I can build a place for. This also calls for Production Workers, Marketing, Computers, Farmers, Builders,

There are many Business Models, most call for great wealth. While Startups are more Grassroots, I seek something more Universal, I am going with Bird Flu. The infected hosts are only to spread the colony. Benefits to the Host are becoming immune to other versions of being an exploited Host.

In this case the disease has been Publishing and Book Stores, that made most of the money. A hundred years ago there were many presses, press runs were 900, writers sold their books to a narrow market, and there were a lot more writers. Printers and writers made most of the money.

It was a closer connection between writers and readers, that neglected group, who buy all the books and make producing them possible.

Like the story of directed education, writers develop a following of readers, learn from them, and are better able to understand why, what they write means.

Writers are saying what a group wants to hear, and major publishers only target the large groups. The history of books shows that the many smaller markets supported a lot more writers.

It is a branch of personalized education and information, Narrowcasting, where custom products are produced for small market sectors.

Custom and designed for people who have knowledge in the field, and want to skip the introduction, most of the body, which they know, and want a work that focuses on where this is going, what else it connects to, and development in related fields. They want to broaden their knowledge of their world.

A case, a writer, first book, wants to hear from other writers how they marketed their first book. They are past seeking general information. Their whole life has become tied up in marketing, they want directed intelligence.

On the other side, they live naked in a cave, and need some directed intelligence to bring them up to being able to function in the world they want to sell to.

The facts remain the same, a reader puts down money for a book. All around that are many other things that have to function to make the book, and make the reader aware it exists, and they would want it.

All the parts have to work to get out one copy, or a million.

This is an obscure network between writer and reader, that has many talents and machines working together. Printers, Binders, Editors, Artists, Marketers, all make a living off of the energy exchange between writers and readers.

This calls for a base, the means of production, a long term support for the network, and having something to produce and market. The only way to make it happen is to reduce startup costs, to survive the first year.

The Obscure Network must first produce it's self.

Thomas Jefferson said, "Freedom of the Press, applies to those who own one."

I did that.

It is the core of the Obscure Network. It is the means to produce and market something.

I went to one of my suppliers web sites, I found three. They all sold almost the same products. Each had some things the other two did not, or other brands of things they did. They had a lot of shared customers, so they merged their web sites. Together, they were the market sector.

We did it for our customers, because we want you to get the best part for your situation, and we think that being exposed to a larger selection, you will buy more. We are benefiting from reduced web site costs, more sales, and making your shopping easy. Reduced costs, reduced prices, and more profit on a higher volume. We have reduced the time needed for you to get what you want.

This is an intelligent Obscure Network. They realized they all served the Customer, and they could best do it together. Customer development was the key step in growing their industry.

To me that is developing writers, for even if their next book is published by someone else, and goes best seller, and I get nothing, they are a living ad for the next hundred writers who would want to deal with me.

Developing an Expert Obscure Network around book publishing, all of the Pre Press work, also can do Pre Press for other publishers, small presses who could not afford to keep an Expert Network.

I wish to develop my skills, and those of the people around me, and of other people in the industry. Together we are all trying to produce the best product for the Reader, the one and only customer, who deserves the best we can offer.

More writers, more readers, more work and profit for all.

From that base a targeted private information network service of directed intelligence.

Then World Conquest.

I've moved back to my home town, in the name of saving up 10k+ in 2013, as an education fund. However I think it's super unlikely I'll be going back to school any time soon. More realistically I aim to have some sort of self employment within the next 5 years. I also have parents willing to "lend" me 10-20 k as a business or education loan. Although I wouldn't in any way be a shareholder or primary investor. I could easily be an independent associate. My situation is likely not that much different from many other young aspies.

When you see this type of urban community as a legitimate alternative to borrowing 40-80 k in college loans things start to become more real.

Do you think a link between "Aspie Acres" and "AspieBURG" of say....25-30 miles apart would work? It would give the "Burg" a source of food and recreation, and the "Acres" a marketing machine. In the long run, one would think tourism could be created with both.

I think that would be the ideal, as the best places for farmland, production, drinking wine, are the worst places for shipping, when time to market is critical.

Fedex and UPS will not deliver beyond a hard road, and get spotty in rural areas. Amazon demands that goods sold are shipped today.

Production costs go way up in a city, but it also has a Farmers Market, and produce will sell.

Selling services can be done over the web, but a small local office, a sales rep, works.

We are an odd lot, but the rules of business do not care, we have to fit ourselves to the market.

Reducing costs by rural living, and getting the benefits of city life, markets, shipping, can work.

Rural, I expected to have constant runs to get supplies, deliver products, which gets expensive, so working that in with delivering produce, transporting people, reduces overall cost.

I mention cost a lot, I am cheap, it leads to survival.

One problem, the status of workers, and getting sued by the State for not paying for the use of their employees. They want set wages, so they can tack on Unemployment tax, Disability, Social Security, And even un or low paid Inturnships are coming under fire.

Farm workers are exempt from a lot, as they can be fed and housed as a cost of business, which is not income to the worker. Supply someone with an apartment and a food supply in a city, it is income.

There are few ways anyone can work less than Minimum Wage, it is not in defense of workers, it is about the State and Fed getting a cut of everything.

A Corporation that feeds the hungry, provides shelter, cloths the naked, trains them in ways that will let them earn their keep, is involved in big time crime.

Call it a Church it all becomes legal.

Inturnships are about training, and are bared from doing work that low wage workers could. That is the law, it is ignored, unless someone wants to make you suffer.

A non profit is allowed to keep slaves.

What I want to do, join and combine skills, turn unused labor potential into earnings, reduce costs to where those with no income can prosper, and those with some income gain assets, is in violation of many laws.

Exceptions are made for private prisons, which take official status, and Treatment Centers, where high schools dropouts can remove demons from clients, with less regulation than a dog license.

A Center for the Cure of Neurotypical Traits would pass legal standing, and as a non profit, can evade most laws, and get first pick at State Surplus Auctions. I do not see Autism as the problem, just Neurotypical traits we fail at. Most Austic problems are failures to function in the pattern of lies neurotypicals live in.

When you quit trying to do things that do not make sense, life gets better. Most of the problems I have seen on WP come from trying to interact with something that lacks logic.

There is a mental center to the autistic differance of thought and perception, and reaching it should be our goal. Where autistic isolationist have just gone their own way, we get Teslas, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, so there is some potential for groups.

When outside groups even notice us it is because they are making money off of autism. They of course think that mass slaughter is the answer, but could not work out the details.

So here we are, always were, and will be, and forming our own Cult seems to be in our best interest.

We are way ahead at understanding ourselves, teaching each other, learning how we naturally work together, and turning that into income.

Then comes World Conquest.

I wonder if aspieberg has conservative or liberal leadership??

maybe two camps to accommodate this
or a new paradigm could emerge

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Now calling it a School could work, as schools fall under private prison rules.

Wage Slavery, being in debt to the Company Store, are barred from employment, but unlimited in Education.

Where I cannot give someone food and shelter, I can if I put them in debt for it.

Student Loans are the only debt you cannot discharge in bankruptcy.

Private for profits are cleaning up on student loans, and what they teach is not certified education. It is still legal.

A play on that could be a school that qualifys for student loans, then converts that into land, buildings, where those in default can live out their lives.

Once established, with income, it can convert to a low interest mortgage, and pay off the student loans.

With a four year program in Creating Self Supporting Communities, people can live and work without a W2, 1099, and the idea of modeling the communities of the future by building one makes sense.

The closer you can get to a closed system, off grid, self feeding, developing medical, dental, education, within the community, building an economy within and without, the more you will find out how the present system is scaming everyone.

My model is the old European Village, that grew crops and sold the surplus for coin. The coin was spent on local building, the Mill, and the workers then spent the coin for food, shelter, clothing, in the village, which supported trades, which also produced extra for export. From all directions coin flows toward the village, then around in circles within.

There is always surplus labor, so public works projects, and merchant funded building, keeps the work going, and develops more reasons for coin to flow to the village.

The economy outgrew the people to the extent that they had to bring in labor to gather the harvests. Demand for hides, wool, exceeded local supply, so they imported raw materials to process into finished goods.

At this level economics works and will for a thousand years.

For the future I see several things, it will get more expensive, and over 40 million war babies will retire, and seek low cost secure living somewhere. Detroit is cheap, but misses on some other factors.

They are leaving the economy, so while it might be good for employment, that falls on a smaller generation, who gets stuck with the debt, and the on going costs of what ever it is Congress is doing.

The reason illegal aliens are tolerated is our post industrial population is growing at less than replacement. The same in Europe, Japan, and in a couple of decades, Russia and China.

World population is still growing, and poor South America, Africa, Southeast Asia are still population bombs. They are already the majority. Even if the reproduction rate declines, it will take a generation or more till they also decline. That or plague, famine, war, which are popular with poor people.

If this trend continues, in several hundred years world population could drop to a billion.

Short term we see our low populated but rich lands over run by ten times as many illegal aliens. So life in the cities is going to change, and they bring their own rules of survival with them.

We have also produced our own underclass of those who cycle through prison as an occupation. We have a lot.

The last White Flight was to the suburbs, and I include educated Blacks in that. Then it went to Security, and Gated Communities.

Did I mention Walled Village, and several hundred crossbows?

Our post industrial and techniological information age culture cannot survive with people selling rock and hos on the corner. Carjacking, strong arm robbery, are growing.

We have a retiring generation that needs cheap security, has less direct connection to working in the cities, and a much smaller group of technological geeks, nerds, aspies, that are unfit for modern city life.

Technology is about all we have to preserve, Securing Information in an Information Age makes sense. No one can afford to rebuild cities, that are now becoming international zones. We cannot even pay for Government.

Building retirement communities that transition into places that preserve knowledge and technology over the next hundred years, when the changing demographic might subside, seems wise.

By one means or another human population will decline, and that produces an economy of decline, where we have fed on growth. Less labor, less markets, less demand, most business could not survive a 5% per decade reduction of demand. Governments, Pensions, are all based on growrth.

Surviving this demographic and economic shift, which mostly happens during the retirement years of the war babies, calls for some secured walled communities where local food production assures some level of support.

They have a need, will stick around long term, have some income, knowhow, and are a solid base to build on. They are also mostly mature adults who know something about how reality works.

They are good cover, and in the caves below Aspie Morlocks can labor in private ways toward the day when they can surface, have a secure base, and dominate a very changed world.

I like the Future, it is free, anything can be done, if you make small steps now and on a regular basis, when the future arrives, you own your place in it.

Becoming known for Service to Grandparents, is good public relations, I always did get along with people much older than myself,

I'm not so sure production costs go way up in a city, you would know better than I would. Are we talking about first and second tier cities, or smaller cities in more rural regions? Close enough to farms that you can drive 7 minutes to see where your food comes from, and sitting right next to the first and last FedEx pickup of the day.

As I've said in the past, small production runs should be an AspieBURG specialty, it's really where our competive advantage is.

Rural living can host the most, at the least cost, and provide a labor supply that can be converted into produce, which has to be consumed, The Village, or sold, a Farmers Market nearby.

Most of the cost of food is in debt, and transport. In season local produce can always undersell even Walmart. It is a very direct conversion of labor into money. It also has a side of eating well. Production far exceeds market, use, so surplus and grade B are available for gifts.

Other markets, U-Pick, have done well when close to a population center, where people fill their freezers with field fresh food at half the store price.

At the base of economic survival, the basic Neolithic Revolution still works. Groups, producing field scale food.

The best pest control is cutting it down and feeding it to pigs, they like bugs. There is a lot that for one reason or another is not marketable, pigs will eat it.

By it's self the Neolithic village survived long term, but the more modern European version has a better quality of life, base on a wider assortment of skills.

Modern cities have grown large by cutting that connection to the land, plant and animal life, as part of the village. It worked as long as production somewhere, transportion, were cheap. Drought, freezes, fuel costs, are changing that model. Go shopping, baking potatoes are now dollars. Avocados are $2,

An acre of cabbage, will produce forty tons, and 80,000 pounds times $0.69 a pound, makes tending 200' X 200' worth $10,000 @ $0.12 a pound. Transported to local markets and sold at $0.25 brings another $10,000.

It is placing your self at the bottom of the cheap food supply, which will sell until I am cooking up cabbage soup in 55 gallon drums and feeding the starving in the street, which brings a power worth more than money during such times.

I consider this end cheap social insurance, for our Super Heros in Congress have to stop 10,000 Terrorist Attacks every day, and may miss on feeding the people during some winter, so having a backup plan works.

It can turn unwanted labor into cash, reduce the cost of living for many, and is a low pressure place to stand around, talk to bugs, go for walks, read a book, and live like it was several hundred years ago.

It is a good background for arts and crafts, Writers, Pre Press, and production. It is also a base for other village crafts, a bakery, the making of beer, wine,

While it may sound like a Renaissance Faire, throw in WiFi and it is open for most business in the modern world. All of those other people still exist, and connecting with Fedex, you can reach them as quickly as anyone else.

Cities used to be the doorway into the economy. They had shipping, Railroads, Advertizing, News Papers, and Brick and Mortar stores.

Now what you hear about on the Internet, can be bought online, and delivered to your door.

That could work for U-Pick, for the rich, as seen in New Yorker ads, where a box of the best fruit, cuts of meat, oysters, can be delivered to your back door, tradesmen's entrance, and given to your Butler. Cleaned, bagged, flash frozen, packed in dry ice, styrofoam box and shipped over night.

Or delivered by pickup truck to the driveway for a neighborhood house wives food processing party. U-Pick without the gas, muddy shoes, bugs, just splitting up a ton of fresh corn on the cob with your friends and neighbors.

Also available with husks and silk removed, washed, bagged, ready for the freezer.

Products are cheap, corn is hog and cow feed, the value added of labor, transport, is the larger cost of human food.

The Barefoot Farmer has hundreds who prepay for produce delivered to the farmers market. He presells $100,000 a year.

Land and food is the base of all economy. This is the solid platform that will last, that everything else stands on. I am pro Internet and Digital Printing, I want cnc machine tools, 3-D Printers, and better means of energy and transport. It all still calls for food, shelter, clothing, and a means of income during the worst of times.

Almost anyone can make money during the boom times, but the survivors are the ones who avoid going bankrupt during the regular economic busts.

Staying in business takes having a product exclusive. Fresh Local Food is one. Production can be ramped up, start up costs are low, margins are high.

The farm, can supply enough food over the year to support a produce market in the city, with employees, and it can continue for long enough to pay for the building.

Since Walmart killed small retail, there are many building well located, dense population, parking, that no small retailer can make a living in.

Produce provides enough secure cash flow for buying real estate, turning it into a produce market, which then can rent space to other related items. Discount Whole Foods, a Coffee Shop, WiFi, a bakery, can all survive the worst of times, so the purchase of real estate becomes a secure bet.

Food and employment are high demand items. They work well on a small scale, so several locations in one city will work. Recessions come and go, but Fast Food Sales have always incresed.

I used to eat in the back room of a candy store on the lower east side of New York, they served black bread and cabbage soup. five tables, no sign, nothing else, it had been running for over twenty years. It was cheap, lunch was busy, available to go, I figured they served over 500 a day.

Another place, out west, to go only, the menu a styrofoam to go box heaped with rice, then topped with stewed chicken or beef, $3. Two lines were ten deep most of the time with people buying several. One was two meals, eat tonight and lunch tomorrow, it was instant hot food and a family could be fed for under $10. Compared, my last burger, fries, coke, was over $8.

I like veggies stewed over brown rice with a taste of meat, shrimp, and a good sauce. High in fiber, low in fat, Keep the veggies seperate, and you have organic veggie fast food, low prices, to go. I like the white paper boxes Chinese food is sold in.

The concept, low price fresh food, fast food, that is good for you. Producing the main ingredients, gives a monopoly from field to meals.

This economic base would pay for a lot of real estate, commercial, which are often several stories with offices or apartments above. Currently a lot of Commercial is worse off than a house in Vegas.

The goal is a foothold in the economy, places of employment from the asocial field worker to those who could sell a cabbage, with a good backup of food, shelter, as a platform for higher value work in other fields.

And World Conquest.