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12 Mar 2013, 3:38 pm

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if you have aspergers i don't think you will be drafted


I sure hope so I have a friend with Dyslexia who is joining the armed forces, (I tried to talk him out of it, but he insisted.) I know a kid in my class who has Aspergers, and he wants to join the air-force. He currently is in the civil air patrol.



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12 Mar 2013, 7:00 pm

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... in regards to mental health, you are barred from enlistment. Also Asperger's syndrome...

Odd ... I served for six years and received an honorable discharge for my service about ten years before my official diagnosis.


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13 Mar 2013, 11:52 am

There is currently no draft. We have enough of a volunteer army as it is, so I doubt there would be a draft anytime soon. Since 9/11 there has been a surge in showing patriotism and enlisting in the military. I wouldn't worry about a draft if I were you. It's probably not going to happen.

As for being disqualified, there are lots of things they PDQ you for. My husband was PDQ'd for dyslexia. I was PDQ'd for having a thyroid nodule. You can be PDQ'd for AS, especially if you play it up like it's something that causes actual problems for you with basic everyday functioning (not just social problems or being annoyed by certain things - serious sensory problems where you trully cannot stand something without a meltdown, etc). You could also get PDQ'd for psych. Or you could just pretend to be flat out crazy.

Either way, I wouldn't worry about a draft at all because the chances of that happening are slim and none. I think Slim left town twenty years ago too.


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13 Mar 2013, 1:09 pm

I'm far from a foreign policy expert, but I think the DPRK is saber rattling again. Their real leadership is probably not composed of indiscriminate homicidal maniacs, but tough survivors who know they have a relatively good thing going. If push came to shove, I doubt if the vast majority would commit suicide and attack South Korea or Japan. China for one thing would not allow it, nothing like war to be bad for business.



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14 Mar 2013, 9:22 am

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My mother signed me up for selective service as she never thought I could be drafted, but with the situation in Korea I am worried I will be drafted. I am not cut out for the military. I deal with stress issues, and if they put me in combat I might go crazy. :cry:

I am a person who is a pacifist. I do not want to die for a needless cause!


Hm, well I'm assuming you're in the U.S. (don't know what other countries do with the draft). I don't know you're gender, but for males the draft is manditory once they hit 18, and unless they changed the rules in the past 10 years, I don't think it's mandatory for women at all. Though you're mom shouldn't have been the one to sign you up anyway, as far as I know the only way to legally do that is if you allowed her to be your legal representative in matters regarding anything that has legal documentation (not a lawyer, just a representative to show your case on your behalf), but you'd have to tell them that, unless it was on the website.
You should know there's an extensive system they go through before they select anyone, background checks, psychological profiles, their beliefs are even asked about (so if you're a pacifist you only need to tell them that fighting is against what you believe and they'll listen, constitutionally they can't place you in combat (at the moment that's how it works). Plus, the draft in the U.S. hasn't been active since like WWII, I don't think they'll run out of troops to such a degree that they'd have to reinstate the draft, anytime soon, and even if they did, there's hundreds of thousands of other, more qualified, candidates for them to chose from.


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14 Mar 2013, 10:32 am

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My mother signed me up for selective service as she never thought I could be drafted, but with the situation in Korea I am worried I will be drafted. I am not cut out for the military. I deal with stress issues, and if they put me in combat I might go crazy. :cry:

I am a person who is a pacifist. I do not want to die for a needless cause!


Hm, well I'm assuming you're in the U.S. (don't know what other countries do with the draft). I don't know you're gender, but for males the draft is manditory once they hit 18, and unless they changed the rules in the past 10 years, I don't think it's mandatory for women at all.

I don't believe that women can even sign up for selective service. I think it's only guys.

Though you're mom shouldn't have been the one to sign you up anyway, as far as I know the only way to legally do that is if you allowed her to be your legal representative in matters regarding anything that has legal documentation (not a lawyer, just a representative to show your case on your behalf), but you'd have to tell them that, unless it was on the website.

Yes it's legal. You pick up a card at the post office, fill it out and mail it in. The kid signs it I believe. I signed my oldest up for it when he turned 18 and I also took him down to register to vote and filled those papers out for him and he signed them. I did them at the same time I did them for his friend who has a birthday the same week as him. I asked him if his mother had done his draft registration or taken him to sign up to vote and he said no and I said "I'll do yours when I do his" and he said OK. I would think that at least half of the selective service cards that are filled out and mailed each year are done by mothers, because the kid probably doesn't even think about it. It's perfectly legal. What isn't legal is the mother going to a recruiting office and signing the kid up to join the military, although that didn't stop my great aunt Grace from forcibly taking each of her son's down to the recruiter and signing them up for the army the day after their 18th birthday. She threw them a birthday party on their birthday, but the next day they were off to join the army like it or not.

You should know there's an extensive system they go through before they select anyone, background checks, psychological profiles, their beliefs are even asked about (so if you're a pacifist you only need to tell them that fighting is against what you believe and they'll listen, constitutionally they can't place you in combat (at the moment that's how it works). Plus, the draft in the U.S. hasn't been active since like WWII,

Vietnam. It hasn't been active since Vietnam. There were so many protests about the draft back then, it was all over the place. They talked about it at Woodstock, guys went to jail for burning their draft cards, some went to Canada, some stayed in school to be deffered, etc.

I don't think they'll run out of troops to such a degree that they'd have to reinstate the draft, anytime soon, and even if they did, there's hundreds of thousands of other, more qualified, candidates for them to chose from.


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14 Mar 2013, 12:52 pm

Ah, thank your for correcting me, I wasn't completely sure myself (about the draft and how long it has been inactive). But yeah, what I said about the OP having to consent to it (by signing or otherwise though I didn't mention that), what you said is mainly what I'm talking about, because the applicant would have to sign the paper, the way the OP talked it sounded as if they didn't ask or participate in the event of being registered themselves, that's why I said what I did lol. Anywho, thanks again for correcting my incorrect facts. :D


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14 Mar 2013, 4:39 pm

No offense kiddo but the chances of a draft have never been lower.

The america gov has been cutting military expenditure for the first time in a long while.

Not to mention todays generation likely would rebal significantly, and violently if forced to fight.

North Korea is a tiny little country, and without any oil or risk of terrorism, would require a minor involvement from US ground troops.

Also unlike Iraq where Iranian intervention is fueling civil war, in Korea, you'd have the south, and the chinese on your side who have a strong interest in keeping the peace.



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15 Mar 2013, 12:32 am

Jaden wrote:
GreenTechnoFox wrote:
My mother signed me up for selective service as she never thought I could be drafted, but with the situation in Korea I am worried I will be drafted. I am not cut out for the military. I deal with stress issues, and if they put me in combat I might go crazy. :cry:

I am a person who is a pacifist. I do not want to die for a needless cause!


Hm, well I'm assuming you're in the U.S. (don't know what other countries do with the draft). I don't know you're gender, but for males the draft is manditory once they hit 18, and unless they changed the rules in the past 10 years, I don't think it's mandatory for women at all. Though you're mom shouldn't have been the one to sign you up anyway, as far as I know the only way to legally do that is if you allowed her to be your legal representative in matters regarding anything that has legal documentation (not a lawyer, just a representative to show your case on your behalf), but you'd have to tell them that, unless it was on the website.
You should know there's an extensive system they go through before they select anyone, background checks, psychological profiles, their beliefs are even asked about (so if you're a pacifist you only need to tell them that fighting is against what you believe and they'll listen, constitutionally they can't place you in combat (at the moment that's how it works). Plus, the draft in the U.S. hasn't been active since like WWII, I don't think they'll run out of troops to such a degree that they'd have to reinstate the draft, anytime soon, and even if they did, there's hundreds of thousands of other, more qualified, candidates for them to chose from.


they drafted people in viet nam, 20 yrs. after WWII.



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15 Mar 2013, 5:34 am

Stoek wrote:
No offense kiddo but the chances of a draft have never been lower.

The america gov has been cutting military expenditure for the first time in a long while.

Not to mention todays generation likely would rebal significantly, and violently if forced to fight.

North Korea is a tiny little country, and without any oil or risk of terrorism, would require a minor involvement from US ground troops.

Also unlike Iraq where Iranian intervention is fueling civil war, in Korea, you'd have the south, and the chinese on your side who have a strong interest in keeping the peace.


I sure do hope you are right and I am dead wrong. I hate it when I am right sometimes.



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15 Mar 2013, 5:36 am

I know it's easier said than done, but it's better not to worry about something until it actually happens, if you worry about every conceivable thing that 'could' happen, it'll drive you crazy. I'd say most people here are correct and it is very unlikely there will be a draft in the foreseeable future.



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15 Mar 2013, 9:36 am

cathylynn wrote:
they drafted people in viet nam, 20 yrs. after WWII.


Yes, someone said that already lol, thank you though.


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15 Mar 2013, 11:47 am

Interesting how many here just assume he lives in the Us...


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15 Mar 2013, 11:57 am

Ichinin wrote:
Interesting how many here just assume he lives in the Us...


lol well I still assume that because the OP hasn't said otherwise, dispite people asking and talking about the U.S. draft. Plus they were talking about issues with Korea and right now that's mainly just the U.S., granted, other countries have sided with us against the issue, but it would only effect the U.S. at this time, if at all. So I think that plays a big role in the assumption that the OP is in the U.S.
But I agree, such an assumption is not good because draft laws are bound to be different in other countries.

@OP: If you don't live in the U.S. please let us all know because that would help some of us give you more informed advice on the situation.


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20 Mar 2013, 12:01 pm

Don't worry about it. There is very little chance that North Korea will declare war, especially since their army is like a speck of dust compared to the USA. I know it is hard to get rid of these anxieties (I experience this kind of thing too) but there is really nothing to fear.



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20 Mar 2013, 3:55 pm

Ichinin wrote:
Interesting how many here just assume he lives in the Us...

OP specifically referenced Selective Service, which is a US program. To assume he's not in the US would be unreasonable.

Also, fear of being drafted is unreasonable as well. Not going to happen.