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12 Jun 2014, 10:39 am

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dont worry have not been ignoring this,have been waiting for a reply back from the contact;was told today am hooking up with the autism co ordinator of the social services again;we have both collaborated on autism activism before so know she will follow through for us.


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12 Jun 2014, 3:30 pm

Ok, good. but before we can start, we need to organize the plan. It seems we need to inform others this is happening, Create a google account in order to create a google account, and find some way for the members of our community to get their self-advocate videos on the channel. A video file might be too big to send through email and we can't just give full access to the channel to everyone or we risk people using the channel to post videos that don't have anything to do with self-advocating.

I am also starting to think that, for now, we should focus on the YouTube channel. once that is complete, we can focus on other things. I noticed when talking with you guys that I was planning so far ahead, I hadn't figured out details for the more immediate goals. Thanks for setting me straight there.



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14 Jun 2014, 6:30 pm

Planning this out sounds like a good idea. It would also be important to be realistic about the time and kind of work anyone might be able to put into this. From the issue with opening a Youtube channel I gather that you haven't done this before? Signing up for Gmail is not a big deal, but if this is a hurdle worth mentioning I think we may run into a lot more and far more serious problems later on. I'm sure we can get 100 videos just by announcing the idea on Wrong Planet and asking people to submit videos. Gmail allows you to send fairly large files, but I'm not sure if it's enough for videos. But you can also sign up for space to safe files in the Google cloud, which can work if the person submitting a video also has Gmail. If they upload the video to some other file sharing site and you have to download it from there and upload it again to Youtube the quality of the video will likely deteriorate. Would be good to have input here from someone who's done this before. My Youtube channel only has three videos that I uploaded recently and it was quite time consuming. Getting to 10,000 videos and running social media and traditional media campaigns would likely be a full-time job. Can you do this full-time? Do you have experience with social media campaigns and/or talking to traditional media. I haven't done a social media campaign, but traditional media can be approached by sending a press release to an editor who might be interested (to be identified from their website), but if they're interested they'll call you and want to talk to you about it. Are you comfortable talking to people on the phone and getting a message across?



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16 Jun 2014, 12:43 pm

I have never put anything up on YouTube before, but I might be able to find someone in my university's computer science department who might be able to help with YouTube. I don't have much experience with social media, however once the summer is over, I might be able to organize something at the University. Also this fall, assuming the rest of my stuff is approved, I will have the resources that come with being a part of the National Society of Leadership and Success. I can also submit essays and stories to the Honors College paper. Its a small collection of essays for a small part of campus, but the honors college members have Ivy League intelligence and many are going for their degrees in psychology. If we get them interested in helping, we have that much more of a voice. As for a press release, let's wait until this is a thing before going to the press. It seems a bit early.

Unfortunately, because this is a long term goal, I started before I had all of my resources at hand because I knew I would have them later and I wanted to start planning. So I don't have easy access to much at the moment.

I don't know if I can do it full time, especially during the spring and fall, but I don't quite know if it will require a full time job. Could you describe how uploading the videos is time consuming?



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18 Jun 2014, 5:54 pm

spaceman0694 wrote:
I have never put anything up on YouTube before, but I might be able to find someone in my university's computer science department who might be able to help with YouTube.


You shouldn't expect anything more than that they show you how to do it. They won't do the work for you. You can also find tutorials online, or on Youtube.

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I don't have much experience with social media, however once the summer is over, I might be able to organize something at the University.


Social media are on the Internet (for example, Facebook). Why "organize something" at the University?

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Also this fall, assuming the rest of my stuff is approved, I will have the resources that come with being a part of the National Society of Leadership and Success.


What resources would that be?

spaceman0694 wrote:
I can also submit essays and stories to the Honors College paper. Its a small collection of essays for a small part of campus, but the honors college members have Ivy League intelligence and many are going for their degrees in psychology. If we get them interested in helping, we have that much more of a voice.


Maybe that's a good start.

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As for a press release, let's wait until this is a thing before going to the press. It seems a bit early.


Obviously. That's what I said. But there's no point in starting if you're not comfortable with the kind of activities that would be necessary to make this particular project a success.

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Unfortunately, because this is a long term goal, I started before I had all of my resources at hand because I knew I would have them later and I wanted to start planning. So I don't have easy access to much at the moment.

I don't know if I can do it full time, especially during the spring and fall, but I don't quite know if it will require a full time job.


It's not a job. You won't be paid for doing it.

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Could you describe how uploading the videos is time consuming?


Downloading and uploading videos takes time. If the video is 15 minutes long it may take 15 minutes to download it from where the maker of the video posted it and 15 minutes to upload it again to Youtube. It will be necessary to view the video to make sure that the content is really about autistic self-advocacy and not someone, for example, who slanders autistic people and works against our interests. That takes another 15 minutes. It may be necessary to edit the video (which you can do in Youtube or with special software). This may take 15 minutes yet again. So you can easily spend an hour or more on a 15-minute video. Some videos may be significantly longer. 10,000 videos would therefore equal an estimated 10,000 hours of work. A full work year of one man is around 2,000 hours. That means that it might take one man five years to upload 10,000 videos to Youtube. This does not include time spent on social media or traditional media to get the videos sent to you in the first place.

You wanted "something great", so that's what I proposed.

My proposed title "Voices of Autism" doesn't work by the way. There's a lot of stuff online already using the same title.



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19 Jun 2014, 1:05 pm

Aspendos wrote:
spaceman0694 wrote:
I have never put anything up on YouTube before, but I might be able to find someone in my university's computer science department who might be able to help with YouTube.


You shouldn't expect anything more than that they show you how to do it. They won't do the work for you. You can also find tutorials online, or on Youtube.


I don't expect them to work for me. I never said that. I said they might be able to help, meaning they could show me how to do it.

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I don't have much experience with social media, however once the summer is over, I might be able to organize something at the University.


Social media are on the Internet (for example, Facebook). Why "organize something" at the University?


Ok, that was a poorly written sentence on my part, and not well thought out. I actually do have experience with Facebook, but not much. Separately, I could also see if I could start

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Also this fall, assuming the rest of my stuff is approved, I will have the resources that come with being a part of the National Society of Leadership and Success.


What resources would that be?


admittedly, most of the resources are academic, but there are social events and my success networking team. Like the Honors College, the resources come from getting word out to anyone who will listen in a nationwide group of leaders. I honestly don't know if it will help, but I don't see a reasonable way it can hurt, so it's worth a try.

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As for a press release, let's wait until this is a thing before going to the press. It seems a bit early.


Obviously. That's what I said. But there's no point in starting if you're not comfortable with the kind of activities that would be necessary to make this particular project a success.


I don't know about "comfortable," but it's important, so I can do it when needed.

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spaceman0694 wrote:
Unfortunately, because this is a long term goal, I started before I had all of my resources at hand because I knew I would have them later and I wanted to start planning. So I don't have easy access to much at the moment.

I don't know if I can do it full time, especially during the spring and fall, but I don't quite know if it will require a full time job.


It's not a job. You won't be paid for doing it.


I know. I didn't mean job as in paid work. I meant it as in a job that needs doing.

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spaceman0694 wrote:
Could you describe how uploading the videos is time consuming?


Downloading and uploading videos takes time. If the video is 15 minutes long it may take 15 minutes to download it from where the maker of the video posted it and 15 minutes to upload it again to Youtube. It will be necessary to view the video to make sure that the content is really about autistic self-advocacy and not someone, for example, who slanders autistic people and works against our interests. That takes another 15 minutes. It may be necessary to edit the video (which you can do in Youtube or with special software). This may take 15 minutes yet again. So you can easily spend an hour or more on a 15-minute video. Some videos may be significantly longer. 10,000 videos would therefore equal an estimated 10,000 hours of work. A full work year of one man is around 2,000 hours. That means that it might take one man five years to upload 10,000 videos to Youtube. This does not include time spent on social media or traditional media to get the videos sent to you in the first place.


I do want this to be something great. however, it is unlikely that we will get 10,000 videos, and even more unlikely that we will get them all at once. That's why I am not putting all my eggs in one basket and seeing if there are other things available in case the YouTube channel doesn't pick up. It is also likely most videos will not be 15 minutes long. most videos I've seen were less than 12 minutes. also, many videos will likely not need editing, The scenario you proposed is unlikely, and if it comes to it, we could get more than one person to do the job. I don't have to be the only one to work on it, the channel just can't be public access. If we really get 10,000 people submitting videos, it is unlikely that we will only have three people working with us.



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19 Jun 2014, 1:39 pm

spaceman0694 wrote:
I do want this to be something great. however, it is unlikely that we will get 10,000 videos, and even more unlikely that we will get them all at once.


If you don't aim for at least 10,000 videos on a channel or website the visibility will be zero and there will be no media interest in this whatsoever.

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That's why I am not putting all my eggs in one basket and seeing if there are other things available in case the YouTube channel doesn't pick up.


Please don't waste your time on the Youtube channel if you're not committed to it. Do something you like better.

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It is also likely most videos will not be 15 minutes long. most videos I've seen were less than 12 minutes.


We are talking about videos trying to explain autism. They will be 15 minutes or longer. You can't do that in 2 minutes.

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also, many videos will likely not need editing, The scenario you proposed is unlikely,


Yes, it will likely take more time.

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and if it comes to it, we could get more than one person to do the job. I don't have to be the only one to work on it, the channel just can't be public access.


You can't have a public access Youtube channel. Are you proposing to give out the password to anyone? The channel will be hijacked in the first week.

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If we really get 10,000 people submitting videos, it is unlikely that we will only have three people working with us.


You only have one person as of now. I'm not able to put the necessary time into this. Just trying to give advice from experience. I hope you don't start something that you can't finish, but good luck.



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21 Jun 2014, 12:51 am

As a full time student at my university, I don't have time to go full out yet. I didn't think I said I wanted to. I am devoted to this more than anything I have put time to. This is a true cause, something that could help a lot of people. I came here hoping to get support and advice, and I got some from you and KingdomOfRats. I am wondering if I jumped in this a bit too soon. but now I have a bit more of a plan formulated, and I know a place to start. I knew this would take time and commitment, which is why I said from the beginning this was a long term goal. It isn't something that will take off immediately nor did I expect it to. The key is to not get discouraged and keep at it.

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spaceman0694 wrote:
and if it comes to it, we could get more than one person to do the job. I don't have to be the only one to work on it, the channel just can't be public access.


You can't have a public access YouTube channel. Are you proposing to give out the password to anyone? The channel will be hijacked in the first week.


I just said it CAN'T be public access. I was suggesting a handful of people, hired or volunteering, would be given access. not the public. Also, media attention isn't going to come from the YouTube page. If the goal is just to get on the news a YouTube channel is not an efficient way to do it. Media attention would come later, after creating an actual organization of true advocates and self advocates, and doing holding public events. Again, I am planning very far ahead, and things are sure to go wrong or change, but I know with hard work things will work out and fit together. They always have.



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23 Jun 2014, 12:22 am

spaceman0694 wrote:
Also, media attention isn't going to come from the YouTube page. If the goal is just to get on the news a YouTube channel is not an efficient way to do it. Media attention would come later, after creating an actual organization of true advocates and self advocates, and doing holding public events. Again, I am planning very far ahead, and things are sure to go wrong or change, but I know with hard work things will work out and fit together. They always have.


Just join an existing organization. Or start one in an area or sector where none exists now (which is what I did). Why not start a self-advocacy group at your university, for example? Media attention won't come from that (what makes you think you can do it, if ASAN can't, assuming you live in the US?), but you may change a few people's perception and help others on the spectrum who struggle with their studies. And who knows ... Facebook started as a site just for Harvard - and spread from there. Doing it in real life rather than on Youtube will also give you exposure to and training in dealing with "the public".



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24 Jun 2014, 4:46 pm

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Or start one in an area or sector where none exists now (which is what I did). Why not start a self-advocacy group at your university, for example?


Yep, that was my plan. I will see if I can start something at the university. I can reach the Honors community easily via "Brain Stew," The honors college paper. I also know people at the university who can help get things started, or tell me what I have to do to get things started. Once it picks up at school, I will try to see if I can expand it.



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25 Jun 2014, 2:45 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eg4ikH8sKs

I made this about a year ago, and I'm planning to make a full series now that I've had a year to work out some material.

My goal is to make about 40-200 videos talkings about specific concepts philosophies, and ideas that would benefit us.

Here's some ideas.

1) understanding pyscopaths, understanding the emotional detachment we share and how both groups react to this very differently.
Understanding morality and empathy.

2) Sociobiology, a science in the works as it were, has a huge ammount of theorys that can easily be borrowed by aspies.

3) Stocism and CBT, essentially teaching people to be aware of their emotions and develop ability to reevalute them.

In short I'm thinking of making of video's that are essentially pamphlets. With an easy to digest format, people can pick and choose for topics that interest them.



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25 Jun 2014, 3:20 pm

Gotta share some advice, as someone who's made about a 100 videos.

1) Rework the same video multiple times until you get it right. I've deleted a bunch of my videos simply because I thought I could do it better.

2) Keep a high signal to noise ratio. You need to keep low qualities videos off your channel, a video that doesn't represent the channel can turn away alot of your potential audience. 20 hits are alot better than 1000 misses.

3) Don't advertise other contributors unless they deserve it. Sharing someone else's work will bring down your reputation if they're a one hit wonder. Only advocate another contributors if they merit so.

4) People need to create video's on their own channel, and have the main channel be a viewers choice.



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spaceman0694 wrote:
Aspendos wrote:
Or start one in an area or sector where none exists now (which is what I did). Why not start a self-advocacy group at your university, for example?


Yep, that was my plan. I will see if I can start something at the university. I can reach the Honors community easily via "Brain Stew," The honors college paper. I also know people at the university who can help get things started, or tell me what I have to do to get things started. Once it picks up at school, I will try to see if I can expand it.


You should check out ASAN's Autism Campus Inclusion (ACI) Summer Leadership Academy. Seems like the sort of programme you might like:

http://autisticadvocacy.org/projects/autism-campus-inclusion/

Also:

http://autisticadvocacy.org/projects/books/empowering-leadership-a-systems-change-guide-for-autistic-college-students-and-those-with-other-disabilities/

http://autisticadvocacy.org/projects/books/navigating-college/



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spaceman0694 wrote:
I have decided that it is finally time to start working on a long term goal that I am hoping will make life easier for those with psychological conditions, mainly Asperger's and Autism.


Asperger's and autism are not psychological conditions. They're a neurological difference. If you don't get that much straight it's a bad omen for your project.

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Despite being a somewhat common condition, I have found that people only seem to know what Autism Spectrum Disorder is when they know someone who has it. I believe that if people understood how life with Autism Spectrum Disorder is like and how it feels to have ASD, we can reduce misunderstandings and maybe ease some of the awkwardness involved in everyday communication.


Problem is that it's not the same for everyone on the spectrum. That makes it so hard for others to understand - and for us to explain.

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I cannot achieve such goals on my own. I am only one aspie. I can only reach so many people, and I only know so much about ASD, despite having Asperger's Syndrome myself. I feel I know how I might be able to reach people.


Care to share?

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But I need to know more about us, and I need to know that I am not alone in this.


You're not.

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It has also been brought to my attention that possibly the most well known "advocates" for ASD, Autism Speaks, are guilty of actually worsening the stigmas and stereotypes against us.


Agree.

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So I am calling out to all of you. If you wish to help spread the truth about us, to reduce the stigmas, now is as good of a time as any to start.


Already did.

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There are a few places I had in mind where I can start, but I am open to suggestions. I also need the support of experts who actively study Autism Spectrum Disorder to provide professional opinions and facts about ASD once things start picking up.


Professionals tend to follow in the same lines as Autism Speaks. Surely those of us living with autism are the true "experts". There's just little effort to bring our varied experiences together in one place.

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I will not lie, this goal is long term, and it is unlikely that any effort I make will have a visible effect for a few years. I have a general plan, but I need to know if I will have the support needed to make this bigger in the future.


Depends on your plan.


What aspendos said, plus - autism & asperger's (and likely ADHD - but that's just my personal opinion) are variations of autism, not separate entities. I think you need to do more research (right here on WP talking to autistics - the true experts) before starting off on a path you don't yet understand.


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Awiddershinlife wrote:
What aspendos said, plus - autism & asperger's (and likely ADHD - but that's just my personal opinion) are variations of autism, not separate entities. I think you need to do more research (right here on WP talking to autistics - the true experts) before starting off on a path you don't yet understand.


I know that autism and Asperger's are the same thing. I have Asperger's myself, so I know more about what I am talking about than you seem to think. I also know I will need to do more research. I am far from an expert. I also know more now than I did when I made the first post, thanks to you guys and those in other threads on WP.

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You should check out ASAN's Autism Campus Inclusion (ACI) Summer Leadership Academy. Seems like the sort of programme you might like:

http://autisticadvocacy.org/projects/au ... inclusion/

Also:

http://autisticadvocacy.org/projects/bo ... abilities/

http://autisticadvocacy.org/projects/bo ... g-college/


Thanks! I'll check these out.

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Gotta share some advice, as someone who's made about a 100 videos.

1) Rework the same video multiple times until you get it right. I've deleted a bunch of my videos simply because I thought I could do it better.

2) Keep a high signal to noise ratio. You need to keep low qualities videos off your channel, a video that doesn't represent the channel can turn away alot of your potential audience. 20 hits are alot better than 1000 misses.

3) Don't advertise other contributors unless they deserve it. Sharing someone else's work will bring down your reputation if they're a one hit wonder. Only advocate another contributors if they merit so.

4) People need to create video's on their own channel, and have the main channel be a viewers choice.


That's good advice. Thanks, I'll keep this in mind!