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24 Jul 2014, 10:31 pm
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Ann2011 wrote:
Smythley wrote:
For people who have been diagnosed later in life it is probably even worse because not having a diagnosis for so long would've meant they have been forced into adopting neurotypical ways of communicating, thus suppressing their Aspie traits, which would certainly screw me up if I were in this presumed position 
It certainly screwed me up. When I was a kid, the autism spectrum wasn't widely known about and I wasn't diagnosed 'til 38 years old. I went from being told that there was nothing different about me and getting no support to being recognized as disabled. And it's been a weird journey.
It was a blessing for me. I grew up in the 50s. People left me alone and I just got to be myself. The moms in my neighborhood let us all run wild all day long until the street lamps came on). I climbed trees, caught crawdads, explored the woods. I always had a dog with me. We played pick up games of kick the can & baseball. I read, read, read.
In school, I was scrappy and could take out any bully (even though I was tiny). There was no special ed although I did have an SLP. But they did have "cracks" one could fall into. I shut down and no one cared, but I was never "disabled".
If anyone tried to force me to be anything at all, it was a waste of time because I totally missed it.
25 Jul 2014, 1:30 pm
25 Jul 2014, 7:44 pm
Smythley wrote:
There are alot of attempts to "normalise" people on the spectrum, meaning classes teaching them to adopt social techniques which probably will have repercussions in the long run for people with Aspergers because of the tendency to overly enthuse about things that we have learned and the danger of going overboard with normative social techniques that are suggested to us.
In regards to limitations, someone who has been diagnosed with Aspergers from a more privileged family is more likely to be supported by their family and provided with opportunities to follow their skills than someone form a working class family. Usually due to having the finances to help their child pursue an interest/career they actually want to do rather than a job that is not suited to them due to the difficulties they have as an Aspie. There is still a lack of understanding and a lack of a support network for Aspies whose families lack the finances to support their child in an given interest.
For people who have been diagnosed later in life it is probably even worse because not having a diagnosis for so long would've meant they have been forced into adopting neurotypical ways of communicating, thus suppressing their Aspie traits, which would certainly screw me up if I were in this presumed position
In regards to limitations, someone who has been diagnosed with Aspergers from a more privileged family is more likely to be supported by their family and provided with opportunities to follow their skills than someone form a working class family. Usually due to having the finances to help their child pursue an interest/career they actually want to do rather than a job that is not suited to them due to the difficulties they have as an Aspie. There is still a lack of understanding and a lack of a support network for Aspies whose families lack the finances to support their child in an given interest.
For people who have been diagnosed later in life it is probably even worse because not having a diagnosis for so long would've meant they have been forced into adopting neurotypical ways of communicating, thus suppressing their Aspie traits, which would certainly screw me up if I were in this presumed position
so are you agenst teaching kids math as well? are you agenst giving people without legs a f*****g wheelchair? personally i feel like that kind of thing is why I'm now going to be able to get a job when i grow up. i mean i guess this is great for you and all but if your parents had access to that kinda support and they didn't give it to you what that says to me at least is they cared more about making a statement then they did your future. i think that frankly its on some level a social construct, also i think its on some level a social construct and its kind of like telling someone from africa there not black because they don't speak in street slang. i think that they probably don't sound autistic because they never identified as having autism, no one "forced" them to do anything. personally I'm fine being normal and attractive and potentially having a job and a love life. maybe your rastafarian parents are to busy protesting nam to get you any other meds but ja merry jane but i sure as hell am glad that mine weren't.
25 Jul 2014, 7:48 pm
25 Jul 2014, 7:58 pm
the-comander wrote:
Smythley wrote:
There are alot of attempts to "normalise" people on the spectrum, meaning classes teaching them to adopt social techniques which probably will have repercussions in the long run for people with Aspergers because of the tendency to overly enthuse about things that we have learned and the danger of going overboard with normative social techniques that are suggested to us.
In regards to limitations, someone who has been diagnosed with Aspergers from a more privileged family is more likely to be supported by their family and provided with opportunities to follow their skills than someone form a working class family. Usually due to having the finances to help their child pursue an interest/career they actually want to do rather than a job that is not suited to them due to the difficulties they have as an Aspie. There is still a lack of understanding and a lack of a support network for Aspies whose families lack the finances to support their child in an given interest.
For people who have been diagnosed later in life it is probably even worse because not having a diagnosis for so long would've meant they have been forced into adopting neurotypical ways of communicating, thus suppressing their Aspie traits, which would certainly screw me up if I were in this presumed position
In regards to limitations, someone who has been diagnosed with Aspergers from a more privileged family is more likely to be supported by their family and provided with opportunities to follow their skills than someone form a working class family. Usually due to having the finances to help their child pursue an interest/career they actually want to do rather than a job that is not suited to them due to the difficulties they have as an Aspie. There is still a lack of understanding and a lack of a support network for Aspies whose families lack the finances to support their child in an given interest.
For people who have been diagnosed later in life it is probably even worse because not having a diagnosis for so long would've meant they have been forced into adopting neurotypical ways of communicating, thus suppressing their Aspie traits, which would certainly screw me up if I were in this presumed position
so are you agenst teaching kids math as well? are you agenst giving people without legs a f*****g wheelchair? personally i feel like that kind of thing is why I'm now going to be able to get a job when i grow up. i mean i guess this is great for you and all but if your parents had access to that kinda support and they didn't give it to you what that says to me at least is they cared more about making a statement then they did your future.
The supports and medications available now were not available when I was a kid in the '70s. There was no choice for my parents to make, there was nothing available either way.
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i think that frankly its on some level a social construct, also i think its on some level a social construct and its kind of like telling someone from africa there not black because they don't speak in street slang. i think that they probably don't sound autistic because they never identified as having autism, no one "forced" them to do anything. personally I'm fine being normal and attractive and potentially having a job and a love life. maybe your rastafarian parents are to busy protesting nam to get you any other meds but ja merry jane but i sure as hell am glad that mine weren't.
Do you feel that someone is telling you that you are not autistic? I don't understand.
25 Jul 2014, 8:04 pm
25 Jul 2014, 8:46 pm
Ann2011 wrote:
the-comander wrote:
Smythley wrote:
There are alot of attempts to "normalise" people on the spectrum, meaning classes teaching them to adopt social techniques which probably will have repercussions in the long run for people with Aspergers because of the tendency to overly enthuse about things that we have learned and the danger of going overboard with normative social techniques that are suggested to us.
In regards to limitations, someone who has been diagnosed with Aspergers from a more privileged family is more likely to be supported by their family and provided with opportunities to follow their skills than someone form a working class family. Usually due to having the finances to help their child pursue an interest/career they actually want to do rather than a job that is not suited to them due to the difficulties they have as an Aspie. There is still a lack of understanding and a lack of a support network for Aspies whose families lack the finances to support their child in an given interest.
For people who have been diagnosed later in life it is probably even worse because not having a diagnosis for so long would've meant they have been forced into adopting neurotypical ways of communicating, thus suppressing their Aspie traits, which would certainly screw me up if I were in this presumed position
In regards to limitations, someone who has been diagnosed with Aspergers from a more privileged family is more likely to be supported by their family and provided with opportunities to follow their skills than someone form a working class family. Usually due to having the finances to help their child pursue an interest/career they actually want to do rather than a job that is not suited to them due to the difficulties they have as an Aspie. There is still a lack of understanding and a lack of a support network for Aspies whose families lack the finances to support their child in an given interest.
For people who have been diagnosed later in life it is probably even worse because not having a diagnosis for so long would've meant they have been forced into adopting neurotypical ways of communicating, thus suppressing their Aspie traits, which would certainly screw me up if I were in this presumed position
so are you agenst teaching kids math as well? are you agenst giving people without legs a f*****g wheelchair? personally i feel like that kind of thing is why I'm now going to be able to get a job when i grow up. i mean i guess this is great for you and all but if your parents had access to that kinda support and they didn't give it to you what that says to me at least is they cared more about making a statement then they did your future.
The supports and medications available now were not available when I was a kid in the '70s. There was no choice for my parents to make, there was nothing available either way.
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i think that frankly its on some level a social construct, also i think its on some level a social construct and its kind of like telling someone from africa there not black because they don't speak in street slang. i think that they probably don't sound autistic because they never identified as having autism, no one "forced" them to do anything. personally I'm fine being normal and attractive and potentially having a job and a love life. maybe your rastafarian parents are to busy protesting nam to get you any other meds but ja merry jane but i sure as hell am glad that mine weren't.
Do you feel that someone is telling you that you are not autistic? I don't understand.
first of all it was the 70s: id say every medication you could ever want was right in front of you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaqQhdt1qqk
second of all i honestly feel like i have to be here in a way but thats kinda besides the point.
25 Jul 2014, 8:49 pm
25 Jul 2014, 8:52 pm
the-comander wrote:
first of all it was the 70s: id say every medication you could ever want was right in front of you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaqQhdt1qqk
second of all i honestly feel like i have to be here in a way but thats kinda besides the point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaqQhdt1qqk
second of all i honestly feel like i have to be here in a way but thats kinda besides the point.
I agree, weed is helpful. But honestly, Serequel has been the best medication I've taken.
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