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28 Jul 2014, 2:21 am

Moromillas wrote:
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please dont refer to those of us who are low functioning as invalids,it is an outdated ancient disablist slur that was used by everyone from our own families to teachers, profesionals etc to dehumanise us and visualise us as burdens.

AS kids [and adults] dont get viewed as low functioning, its why so many struggle to get any support; HFAs are HF by default due to having an IQ over seventy,
some might be treated as having autism more severe than what they have though and there may be the odd few who doesnt understand anything about HFA nor LFA and views it as all the same.


No thanks, that detracts from the severity of it. That is how most of us are viewed by the public, as tragic burdens, as invalids, drooling and wearing diapers. Because well, "I've seen a kid with it before."

Women especially, though that's a problem with the diagnostic tools, and again, public perception.


Please go back and re-read what KOR wrote, Using the term"Invalid" to denote "low functioning" is derogatory. If you have a problem with what you perceive NTs think of you that's one thing. It doesn't, however, give you a right on this forum to put down other ASD people with "real functional problems" in order to gain sympathy.



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28 Jul 2014, 2:32 am

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It doesn't, however, give you a right on this forum to put down other ASD people with "real functional problems" in order to gain sympathy.


Am I now? Go back and re-read, as you say.



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28 Jul 2014, 5:39 am

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Moromillas wrote:
That is how most of us are viewed by the public, as tragic burdens, as invalids, drooling and wearing diapers. Because well, "I've seen a kid with it before.


Most of the NT public have no idea what Aspergers is? a few have heard of it, nobody I've met has ever described Aspergers the way you have.



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28 Jul 2014, 6:19 am

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Most of the NT public have no idea what Aspergers is? a few have heard of it, nobody I've met has ever described Aspergers the way you have.


Most will not really know, but will have some idea about what it might be, and more often than not become intransigent of their misguided beliefs. In the case of not getting support, it's quite common for women to come up against roadblocks when it comes to getting the diagnosis and getting the support that's needed for them. Instead of understanding, you find yourself battling against the stigmas. Oh you're wearing makeup? That's not AS, that's NPD. Oh you mimic faces? That's not AS, that's sociopath and manipulator. Oh you're having trouble with other people? That's not AS, that's bipolar. etc etc. No they don't know, yet people have this very rigid idea of what it might be, I've even heard rumor of places where they think you're faking it if you can use a keyboard. It's also the same in the workplace, bosses will, of course, care about their bottom line, and when considering an AS person even with the certification their competency isn't recognised. Same with independence, their competency isn't recognised.



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29 Jul 2014, 1:12 am

Moromillas wrote:
I've even heard rumor of places where they think you're faking it if you can use a keyboard. It's also the same in the workplace, bosses will, of course, care about their bottom line, and when considering an AS person even with the certification their competency isn't recognised. Same with independence, their competency isn't recognised.


Are you saying employers are unwilling to hire Aspies because of their preconceived views regarding disability? Not sure where you are heading with this?



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29 Jul 2014, 1:28 am

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Are you saying employers are unwilling to hire Aspies because of their preconceived views regarding disability? Not sure where you are heading with this?


In most situations, that is what happens, for a variety of reasons.



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29 Jul 2014, 3:54 pm

Moromillas wrote:
KingdomOfRats wrote:
please dont refer to those of us who are low functioning as invalids,it is an outdated ancient disablist slur that was used by everyone from our own families to teachers, profesionals etc to dehumanise us and visualise us as burdens.

AS kids [and adults] dont get viewed as low functioning, its why so many struggle to get any support; HFAs are HF by default due to having an IQ over seventy,
some might be treated as having autism more severe than what they have though and there may be the odd few who doesnt understand anything about HFA nor LFA and views it as all the same.


No thanks, that detracts from the severity of it. That is how most of us are viewed by the public, as tragic burdens, as invalids, drooling and wearing diapers. Because well, "I've seen a kid with it before."

Women especially, though that's a problem with the diagnostic tools, and again, public perception.


I wear diapers and I don't sit there and drool. I work part time, I volunteer at my local soup kitchen every Tuesday, and I know all the best places to gather drink containers for recycling. I have two close friends that I socialize with most nights of the week. I've also been a member at Toastmasters for four years. I live on my own and I can do my own cooking, cleaning, laundry and banking and I'm able to pay my own bills online. I've also graduated from High School on the A-Honour Role with minimal help from my teacher in the Resource Room that I was in for only two blocks out of eight. I'm also very verbal and I bathe or shower every day and I make a point of looking my best at all times. I'm also an avid reader as well.

I'm also very happy to be alive.


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