Why "Neurodiversity" is wrong

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So then, you seem to believe that it's entirely up to people with ASD to adjust to the world around them. Some of us can't. What do you propose for those of us who are non-verbal, or who freeze up when people try to force them into compliance?

Cover them with wet blankets? Spray them with a fire hose? Drug them into insensibility?

No, it's not a case of wanting everyone else to accommodate to your wants and desires. NTs have this massive support structure, and have a massive leg up, yet what we have, is next to nil. It's about wanting parity, equality, and inclusion, no we shouldn't just be happy that we have nothing. It's about acceptance, like in sci-fi, how all the different species work together, and none of them are claiming superiority.

The idea that neurodiversity is about ignoring people that need help is just nonsense. There are many NTs that need help, or have disabilities, yet we don't paint all NTs with the same brush and write them all off as having a problem that they need to fix, and they certainly don't get disenfranchised over it.

The claim that AS people are damaged, or are an accident as you put, is quite a tall story. You mention "rejecting the medical model", well no, I don't reject it, I question it. Anecdotes and GroupThinks are found wanting, and what you're doing, is simply blindly following it on faith alone.

You seem young, I'm sure you'll understand everything one day.

Finally! This is the point I wanted to make the entire time I posted these threads on this site. Don't worry OP, I think neurodiversity is BS too, I take offense when those with aspergers degrade themselves as a "minority", I also take offense to people who say I need the world to adapt to people like us, because I personally don't need the world to adapt to me.

What's degrading about recognizing the fact that most people don't have Asperger's?

It implies that we can't survive when left to our own devices, which is degrading in my opinion.

Is that the case for other minorities as well? If I say that I am a minority because I am a lesbian, or non-religious, for example, would you think that I was saying that lesbians and non-religious people can't survive on our own?

Just like the OP, you also show your ignorance, and your astounding level of understanding, or lack, thereof. I can only suggest that you read up on what neurodiversity is, as you clearly haven't bothered to read the thread on it.

Most humans could not survive if entirely left to their own devices, like out in nature technically speaking. Also the minority part does not imply that, the fact it is a disorder/disability is what interferes with functioning. Don't really see what is degrading about any of that...the only thing that is degrading is the way society sometimes like to kick people around who already have significant difficulties in every day functioning.

All to one's own. But if I was gay/atheist/whatever I do have a right not to make a deal either way about it, I wouldn't push my ways on others, and still associate and find common with non-gay/atheist individuals.

I may be a bit a little hypocritical, but I guess it's because I feel divided from the rest of my friends and family because I am expected to be "proud" of something I didn't choose.

True of all humans, including NTs. We're all a product of our respective societies, and the collective knowledge we've gathered. If it were that we each existed in solitude in the woods, with no human contact, our biggest accomplishment might only be creating a fire.

That is, in a way, what neurodiversity is. "Push my ways on others" isn't. How hard would you facepalm should someone tell you, that finding common ground and equal footing is BS?

You're not proud of who you are?

People cannot change the world. They can only change things for themselves. These things are led to be examples. When these examples come into play, and stay the same, the world around it changes. People need to learn to accept the things they cannot change. there is no other option. I disagree with the OP. it doesn't matter what you think. The world around you is changing. Not you.

To adapt to the world is a logical impossibility because there is no unified world to adapt to. The world consists of different societies with different cultures and sub-cultures each with different and possible opposing opinions on different aspects of existence and reality. The maxim "adapt to the world" makes no sense.

Maybe we could adapt somewhat to the culture we're living in but to adapt to the whole has no basis in logic since it assumes the world is a monolithic place when really it is not.

This being said, maybe some cultures and sub-cultures are easier to adapt to and more open minded than others. That being said again, we should try to meet other cultures and sub-cultures half-way. It begs the question, what is the half-way point and if we mess up will they be forgiving and if we must conform to something then how do we conform while still having honor, nobility and virtue?

I'm not sure this was in response to me, but I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. I asked you about how you interpret the use of the term "minority," and you are talking about pushing your ways on people and making a deal out of stuff? Is that what you assume people are thinking when they call a group a minority?

I would find it annoying if people I knew wanted me to be proud of having autism which I did not choose. I have not even accomplished anything in life so what is there to be so bloody proud of. Oh yay it so happens people with autism have a harder time dealing with stress and are thus prone to mental illnesses like PTSD which also make it even harder to accomplish anything.

Ok I guess to be fair I have accomplished a few insignificant things. I mean do people really think I want a government check to live on so I can be stigmatized for 'stealing from the middle class', perhaps if society was more accepting of neurodiversity I could get a damn job but perhaps I will never know. Also another great part about being on SSI is if I do ever become functional enough to hold a job then I will have a history of dropping out of college, no job history to speak of except a couple very short lived undocumented jobs I got fired from and being f***d in the head thus needing the SSI for a significant amount of time. That will for sure get me hired and I am just supposed to up and adapt to this disgusting society that is designed to ensure you have wealthy people with enough wealth to live 50 lifetimes and then people scraping by on whatever they can get asking for change on the street then again lots of homeless people have jobs, still might end up broke on the streets needing bus change or something though.