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25 Sep 2020, 10:48 pm

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Kids, especially those with disabilities or neurodiversities, should be exempted from wearing masks.


This is causing confusion here in Victoria. Not so such with the police but with Joe public. Young people with medical conditions such as asthma are given exemptions from wearing masks but have been subject to abuse and violence when walking in public or in the workplace.



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26 Sep 2020, 2:41 pm

Here in the US, no ADA law exists for mask wearers. If you cannot wear a mask, you simply order online and pick up at spot and they bring it out to you or you do take out or have a store employee do the shopping for you and they bring it out to you if you can't wear a mask. I see all these signs at places about those who cannot wear a mask and offer accommodations like have a store employee get the stuff for you.

Even those who can't wear a mask simply don't go out at all because they care about this corona and other people.


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26 Sep 2020, 3:33 pm

Yeah...
He should be twice exempt

1 he might have sensory issues
2 he's 7 for goodness sake. Kids here have to be 11 before it's the law.*

They should sue

* I do think 11 is a bit ridiculous tbh, if the kid doesn't have sensory issues or whatever there should be an imputus on the parent to encourage them to do it. Little kids could be encouraged with character masks etc. As long as they can keep shoes on, they can keep a mask on, that's the new 'normal'. But it's not the law.


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26 Sep 2020, 3:38 pm

cyberdad wrote:
envirozentinel wrote:
Kids, especially those with disabilities or neurodiversities, should be exempted from wearing masks.


This is causing confusion here in Victoria. Not so such with the police but with Joe public. Young people with medical conditions such as asthma are given exemptions from wearing masks but have been subject to abuse and violence when walking in public or in the workplace.


Yeah I had to mute 'wear masks' etc from twitter cos so many people were going into a place and counting up who wasn't wearing a mask without considering that they might be exempt. They were even saying 'they don't look exempt' like neurodiversity/invisible disabilities have a specific 'look'.

Personally I've not been inside a public building since March. I wear a mask in crowded areas anyway.

I know one autistic person on twitter who's exempt from wearing a mask. He's been in shops twice since then. Both for job interviews.

It's why my recommendation is: if you can stay home, do so. If you can wear a mask when outside, do so. Rather than anything more prescriptive. And why I'm minding my own business when out and about.


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26 Sep 2020, 3:44 pm

Exception to wearing masks is not magical immunity to carrying the disease. 8O :roll:


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26 Sep 2020, 4:06 pm

Kids over 2 years of age should wear masks unless they have unusual breathing problems. Being autistic is no excuse. I wish, then I wouldn't have to wear one. But I'd rather breathe through a mask then end up having to breathe through tubes and hoses in my neck. Or being hooked up to a dialysis machine. 8O



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26 Sep 2020, 4:07 pm

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Exception to wearing masks is not magical immunity to carrying the disease. 8O :roll:


It is if you survive long enough. :lol:


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26 Sep 2020, 5:21 pm

cberg wrote:
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Glad to see someone standing up against fascism.

Has anyone been seen standing up in favor of fascism? :mrgreen:


So telling the kid not to hurt others with his breath is a travesty but what if he were a healthy carrier? I'm sorry for your brittle sensibilities but this kid could be killing other kids. Just the same way he's got ASD, anyone else could have any other condition.

It's a matter of life & death so put the f*****g masks on or admit your indifference towards who might die if you don't.


The regular flu is also deadly and can be spread when you're asymptomatic. Will you be wearing a mask at all times in public for the rest of your life? Didn't think so.



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26 Sep 2020, 5:22 pm

cberg wrote:
Exception to wearing masks is not magical immunity to carrying the disease. 8O :roll:


There's no proof that wearing a mask prevents anyone from getting the virus.



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26 Sep 2020, 6:01 pm

First of all COVID is worse than the most flu's because of a lack of immunity towards it. Manditory masks in combination with other measures appear to slow the spread.

Usually, I am on the side of giving more accommodations to autistic people. I don't like seeing autistic people denied pleasurable things the NT's get. But as they say, there are always exceptions to the rule. Accommodate when it is a matter of a bit of inconvenience yes, when it is a matter of possible permanent disability or death no.


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26 Sep 2020, 6:07 pm

cberg wrote:
Exception to wearing masks is not magical immunity to carrying the disease. 8O :roll:


No but I assume we don't go out as much as NTs. None of the autistic people I know are going out as normal. None of the autistic people I know have the same 'normal' as the NT people I know.

Even before the virus, I didn't go out to town on Saturday afternoon. Way too much sensory overload in a crowd 8O

You have to balance things out. Believe people who are exempt. People who are exempt have reasons beyond selfishness or just being political about it.*

Staying at home is safer than wearing a mask outside esp in a confined area.

* Why even has this become political btw? Utterly selfish.

Stay home if you can. If you can't, wear a mask if you can. Socially distance when out and about. Adhere to all the rules you're not exempt from.


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26 Sep 2020, 6:09 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
Kids over 2 years of age should wear masks unless they have unusual breathing problems. Being autistic is no excuse. I wish, then I wouldn't have to wear one. But I'd rather breathe through a mask then end up having to breathe through tubes and hoses in my neck. Or being hooked up to a dialysis machine. 8O


The government disagrees.

I would say though, you ought to try to wear more than one before deciding. I couldn't wear my first one.

Government thinks kids under 11 shouldn't have to.

Seriously, a 3 yo autistic kid who can't be trusted to keep shoes on won't be able to be trusted to keep a mask on.


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26 Sep 2020, 6:55 pm

I think it's worth a try to have everyone wear masks.

I'm not unilaterally saying that's going to work for people who don't understand the importance, but it could in many cases regardless.


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26 Sep 2020, 7:05 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
First of all COVID is worse than the most flu's because of a lack of immunity towards it. Manditory masks in combination with other measures appear to slow the spread.

Usually, I am on the side of giving more accommodations to autistic people. I don't like seeing autistic people denied pleasurable things the NT's get. But as they say, there are always exceptions to the rule. Accommodate when it is a matter of a bit of inconvenience yes, when it is a matter of possible permanent disability or death no.


When I had covid, I couldn't do anything and I stayed in bed for two days straight. The headache was so bad and I was very tired so I slept.

I was lucky my body handled it well because it fought it off and I never lost my breath and I didn't die.


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26 Sep 2020, 9:10 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
First of all COVID is worse than the most flu's because of a lack of immunity towards it. Manditory masks in combination with other measures appear to slow the spread.

Usually, I am on the side of giving more accommodations to autistic people. I don't like seeing autistic people denied pleasurable things the NT's get. But as they say, there are always exceptions to the rule. Accommodate when it is a matter of a bit of inconvenience yes, when it is a matter of possible permanent disability or death no.


The survival rate is 99.9% for the seasonal flu and 99.4% for Covid-19 when you include the elderly which is a difference of only 0.5%. The survival rate for Covid-19 among the non-elderly is 99.8%. For those under 40 years old, it's 99.9%.

Studies have shown Covid-19 mutates like the seasonal flu and probably won't go away which means people will likely be getting yearly vaccines for it along with their flu shot. Since vaccines only reduce your chance of getting it, you'll need to wear a mask for the rest of your life.



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26 Sep 2020, 9:56 pm

I actually agree with emortkey that this virus has not been handled correctly.

Those with risk factors should have been under lockdown not entire countries.

Everytime we come out of lockdown the virus will simply come roaring back.

So we now have dead people + destroyed economy + mass unemployment and where is the vaccine?