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Apuleyo
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07 Apr 2008, 10:55 am

Screw neurotypicals!! They are sick. Their illness has a name: bigotry. In most cases it doesn't have a cure.


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07 Apr 2008, 4:59 pm

Apuleyo wrote:
Screw neurotypicals!! They are sick. Their illness has a name: bigotry. In most cases it doesn't have a cure.


Unfortunately, my main problem is the ~3 autistics on the board who aggressively went against me. Then again, they likely hate the autism rights movements, including that douchebag ('SirNitram') who said he worked and lived for 'a lifetime' with other autistics.

Also, anyway. IT does not seem to be NTs in general, many NTs ars as pissed off at this BS society that suppressed them, harassed them and scapegoates them...


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07 Apr 2008, 7:29 pm

Maybe those autistics were brainwashed by their parents into believing something that is wrong.


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07 Apr 2008, 7:32 pm

It did strike me as odd that there were 3 auties ganging up on you (part of why I had considered joining the fray... show that you were not alone) They certainly needed to get many of their facts straight (the medical profession does not unanimously believe autistics to be inferior). There do seem to be some fatalistic auties/aspies who "accept" that they are defective, which seems a rather pessimistic outlook to me. I would not have expected to see three of them all together like that.

Apuleyo, scapegoating NT's will do nothing to help our cause. They are no better or worse, each of our groups needs to acknowledge members of the other as equal human beings.


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07 Apr 2008, 7:38 pm

Sorry... But what if those weren't auties/aspies? Could they be bigots trying to make us look bad by pretending to be some of us?


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07 Apr 2008, 8:55 pm

Apuleyo wrote:
Maybe those autistics were brainwashed by their parents into believing something that is wrong.


or that guy ('SirNitram') was a big douchebag

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"'Gotten to me'. Rich. You're just another loser who hides behind the disability and grows an entitlement complex. You didn't 'get to me' anymore than any of the other idiots who parade through here with the same song and dance, and who run away the same way. "

"Then you've never been out in the real world, or are such a minor case you could be missed until your late twenties. Only someone with a massive entitlement complex can argue as you have."


you got to love that condensing crap. And when I try to re-duel a few weeks later to fix and misconceptions, he flames me again and drags me into a eventual-public flame war (SirNitram was talking about how he went to harvard for a semester, moved out at 16 "without mommy and daddy", trying to be a hard-ass there). and posted it in a public thread so I can get dog-piled by the forum members as he's a mod and I'm relatively-new.

I think I did better there, though I didn't flame the best in the second thread, but I feel..better anyway (I called him an "assburger" in much the same format a black person would call someone an "ignorant n****r" (rather than n***a). some of the board guys had a field day with that. But again, that happened a few weeks ago. Thank you for making me feel better.

and that quote by Rogue 9:

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"I have been diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome. You know how I f*****g deal with it? I take that famous attention span and ability to specialize in a subject and apply it to human communication, learning through study what so-called neurotypicals naturally absorb in early childhood. I do not deal with it by f*****g whining about it and demanding special treatment. Your behavior is disgraceful, Warsie.

Doubly so because not all autistics are capable of learning to deal with normal society. It is undeniably a disorder, a negative condition that severely impairs the victims' ability to operate on a day-to-day basis; that it has some positive traits (specialist learning capacity and memory only sometimes among them) does not change that one whit. Hemming and hawing about it is useless, stupid, and ultimately counterproductive."

L-O-L. Thank you everyone, I seriously thought I was wrong.

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It did strike me as odd that there were 3 auties ganging up on you (part of why I had considered joining the fray... show that you were not alone)


yeah, thanks for the offer.

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They certainly needed to get many of their facts straight (the medical profession does not unanimously believe autistics to be inferior). There do seem to be some fatalistic auties/aspies who "accept" that they are defective, which seems a rather pessimistic outlook to me. I would not have expected to see three of them all together like that.


true..then again.


That site is an oddball. You can flame and be a douchebag as long as you get information across, but they claim to be 'liberal'; many of them socialists. Also, the site is full of atheists who want religion destroyed, but they can be just as biased. And that site is full of rules that people have attacked as being biased and the like. meh.

But I seriously am glad that I had some others analyze this to see that I am right.

I SERIOUSLY THANK YOU ALL


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07 Apr 2008, 8:59 pm

Apuleyo wrote:
Sorry... But what if those weren't auties/aspies? Could they be bigots trying to make us look bad by pretending to be some of us?


they've been registered there for a couple years at least and are 'established' members, likely they were ingrained that they were 'defective'. I also noticed that they didn't seem to read the videos I linked to ("about being considered 'ret*d'") where "low-functioning" autistics (Amanda Baggs) was explaining how they were treated like that. But She has said that she can communicate to other auties in her language in a youtube vid..cool.


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